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Is Our Scientific Progress Slowed By Lack of Public Cooperation?

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posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 07:53 AM
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Every day, we create 2.5 quintillion bytes of data.
IBM

In the time it took you to read this sentence, NASA gathered approximately 1.73 gigabytes of data.
NASA

Every moment, our scientific instruments gather an immense amount of data, very little of which is ever seen by a human eye, or considered by a human brain. Our thinking machines analyze the stream of zeros and ones we've submitted to them, and interpret the data based on the instructions we've programmed them to. Sometimes we conceive of new instructions, and when our computers analyze samples of previously crunched data, we find discoveries that we'd missed. Sometimes our computers ignore a thing because we didn't think to instruct them to look for them. For example, a SETI computer conducting statistical analysis may indeed make note of a carrier signal as we understand them. Another set of data may yield no results, while had it been compiled in the form of a waterfall plot for human analysis, you and I would instantly recognize a faint smiley face over the CMBR backdrop, while the computer would likely think nothing of it.

How long does it take you to identify this smiley face in space? You recognized it instantly, right? A computer would never recognize such a pattern, unless we specifically programmed it to. Computers are playing "Where's Waldo" and often times they don't even know what Waldo looks like. Indeed, SETI Live was established specifically for the purpose of putting human minds to the task of crunching data. Regrettably, the project has been practically cancelled, as was prominently displayed at the link.

NOTICE: After 12-Oct-2014, live data will no longer be available.

To my knowledge, SETI is the only research initiative in history to ever supplement their network of supercomputers with an extensive second-guessing network of human minds for their superior pattern recognition. We see horses among clouds, faces on cars, and religious icons on toast. Meanwhile, computers just see clouds, cars and toast. Computers may be built to recognize faster, but we're programmed to recognize more. Yet, the vast majority of relevant scientific data is locked away in crunching computers and never offered to inquiring minds for assessment. Scientists have a tendency to sift through and process data, and then provide an assessment on the findings by brief listings in catalogues and detailing what they noticed and thought pertinent in their scientific papers. They're not in the habit of distributing the data itself for public consumption, only what they thought noteworthy.

Do I mean to criticize scientists? Absolutely not. I do however very much regret that we're not utilizing every opportunity for discovery at our disposal. Take a Pulsar for example. When the average radio astronomer discovers one, they're probably not making a concerted effort to determine if the origin is extraterrestrial intelligence. Though the data necessary to make that determination may have already been collected, if you'd like pursue that question you'll probably have to rent time at a radio observatory and re-collect that data yourself. When Parkes collected the data on PSR B0329+54, the sound of which I linked you to, they gathered a great deal of information, and you or I will never have the opportunity to scour that data for patterns Parkes may have overlooked. We certainly don't need all the data, as most of it would be uninterpretable for us, and there's a lot of it.

Observational data are recorded on 2-terabyte SATA hard disk drives at the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico, each holding about 2.5 days of observations.
SETI

Never the less, there are items which could prove valuable through mass human interpretation. Imagine for instance a Millisecond Pulsar is observed, and the human interpretable data is published online for public assessment. Among that data, you might find time stamped list of every pulse detected along with the approximate signal strength of each. It might look like this:

Pulse Timestamps of PSR EXA-MPLE:
00:00:001 - 81 mJy
00:00:003 - 80 mJy
00:00:006 - 81 mJy
00:00:008 - 80 mJy
00:00:010 - 80 mJy
00:00:013 - 81 mJy
00:00:015 - 80 mJy
00:00:017 - 80 mJy
00:00:019 - 80 mJy
00:00:021 - 80 mJy
00:00:024 - 81 mJy

The scientists collecting the data may think nothing of it. As I said before, they probably weren't looking for evidence of intelligence in the signal. Yet, if you were to ever encounter such data, then you found ET. Maybe you can recognize the patterns which prove beyond any doubt that you're looking at an intelligent transmission. Do you see it? The scientists who recorded the data didn't, but a bright mind among the curious public might notice. Except, this information was discarded and never published because the scientists who made the observation didn't deem it pertinent. They weren't looking for ET, and they didn't notice ET. Yet, ET was so very clearly there.

In my opinion, we live in a dark age of sorts. There's so many opportunities available to us which we choose not to pursue. There must be an extraordinary number of discoveries going overlooked. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean its not there. We should be better equipping laymen with the opportunity to discover what our scientists may not have noticed. We have the internet; let's really use it.




posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 09:13 AM
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Fantastic OP.

I think the missing link in that level of analysis is AI. Humans would likely never find many needles in the haystacks. We recognize a lot, but not fast (like you say). AI....would do both.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 10:03 AM
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Step back and take a look at the whole picture. Do we really need all the technology we are creating? It seems that jobs are being replaced by computers, so how are people going to make a living? Technology puts everything at risk of hacking, humans are smarter than computers and putting our faith into something that cannot think but people believe can think is not even reational. Step back and look at the direction we are going in.

Soon the only ones who will be making a lot of money are the ones making technology and they will design technology to build technology. Where does that leave us? Homeless bums that cannot find work. It is only a matter of time.

If you think that this technology will make us all so we don not need to work you are right, but we will be completely broke and be brownnosing just to get a little food on our tables. Think a little, this sort of thing has happened in the past. A small percent of people enslaves the rest. You may think our governments are bad now, that is nothing compared to what can happen in the future.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 10:26 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
Fantastic OP.

I think the missing link in that level of analysis is AI. Humans would likely never find many needles in the haystacks. We recognize a lot, but not fast (like you say). AI....would do both.

The computers doing the crunching are already reasoning by a form of AI, based on the instructions we've programmed them with. If A then B. I think what you're getting at is Strong AI, which hasn't been invented yet. We're probably very far off from a computer than can think for itself, without referencing instructions and algorithms we've programmed them with. You can construct an AI robot capable of performing complex surgeries, but it still can't apply a Band-Aid to a child's skinned knee unless you program it to. A real surgeon could treat that child just fine, without the need for a course in Band-Aids first. Weak AI will always be limited to preforming the tasks specifically outlined by its programmer.

Even if one day in the distant future we produce what we interpret to be Strong AI, the human mind still won't be obsolete. In any case, today's computers certainly best us at mathematics and statistical analysis, but we're still the best game in town when it comes to pattern recognition. Humans can't review all of the data, but we should allow our fellow humans to review as much of it as they wish. If the most powerful supercomputers on the planet (biological brains) want to crunch your data, let them. Help them to. They just might discover something.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: Navarro

no argument from me.

im a fan of crowd sourcing analytics. were we not in a world of computer insecurity, i'd likely also be a fan of crowd sourcing CPU cycles to boost analytic capabilties for institutions.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
Step back and take a look at the whole picture. Do we really need all the technology we are creating? It seems that jobs are being replaced by computers, so how are people going to make a living? Technology puts everything at risk of hacking, humans are smarter than computers and putting our faith into something that cannot think but people believe can think is not even reational. Step back and look at the direction we are going in.

Soon the only ones who will be making a lot of money are the ones making technology and they will design technology to build technology. Where does that leave us? Homeless bums that cannot find work. It is only a matter of time.

If you think that this technology will make us all so we don not need to work you are right, but we will be completely broke and be brownnosing just to get a little food on our tables. Think a little, this sort of thing has happened in the past. A small percent of people enslaves the rest. You may think our governments are bad now, that is nothing compared to what can happen in the future.

Imagine a nation whose industry is made mostly of factories and agriculture. If you bring in technology which is capable of doubling production nation-wide, then your population can transition from 40 hour work weeks to 20 hour work weeks while maintaining their same wages, without creating inflation nor deflation. Of course, that's a rough approximation, because that technology would require maintenance and other costs, so personal income would be somewhat lower and job availability would be somewhat higher, which may then translate into a little greater than a 20 hour work week.

However, my point is that if your work hours aren't reduced by approximately half while your income remains approximately the same, then technology isn't the problem. The people writing our paychecks are the problem.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: Navarro

originally posted by: rickymouse
Step back and take a look at the whole picture. Do we really need all the technology we are creating? It seems that jobs are being replaced by computers, so how are people going to make a living? Technology puts everything at risk of hacking, humans are smarter than computers and putting our faith into something that cannot think but people believe can think is not even reational. Step back and look at the direction we are going in.

Soon the only ones who will be making a lot of money are the ones making technology and they will design technology to build technology. Where does that leave us? Homeless bums that cannot find work. It is only a matter of time.

If you think that this technology will make us all so we don not need to work you are right, but we will be completely broke and be brownnosing just to get a little food on our tables. Think a little, this sort of thing has happened in the past. A small percent of people enslaves the rest. You may think our governments are bad now, that is nothing compared to what can happen in the future.

Imagine a nation whose industry is made mostly of factories and agriculture. If you bring in technology which is capable of doubling production nation-wide, then your population can transition from 40 hour work weeks to 20 hour work weeks while maintaining their same wages, without creating inflation nor deflation. Of course, that's a rough approximation, because that technology would require maintenance and other costs, so personal income would be somewhat lower and job availability would be somewhat higher, which may then translate into a little greater than a 20 hour work week.

However, my point is that if your work hours aren't reduced by approximately half while your income remains approximately the same, then technology isn't the problem. The people writing our paychecks are the problem.


Maybe in a perfect society that would happen. We live in the United States of America though. The only way that would work is in a pure socialist society, not even remotely what we have here in this world presently. I see that ten percent of society will be enslaving ninety percent of society.

You have to consider human nature when evaluating this. Presently the ten percent is dependent on the ninety percent working for them. They will not be needed in the future. What do you think that will mean? The rest of people will be broke, they can't give money they do not have to the top ten percent.

As long as there is a need for the masses, we will be allowed to survive.

I'm not saying this is a bad idea, we need to cut down the population of humans on this planet. But My family will definitely not be needed. The only thing we have that might help us is that we have a very good immune system and I know a hell of a lot about food chemistry which I am trying to teach my kids.

From what I am seeing, population control will be done utilizing chemistry that weakens us so microbes can kill us off. Since it is done indiscriminately, it is not considered as genocide. Let the buyer beware.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 03:09 PM
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Our Scientific progress is hindered by people with money who commit crimes against humanity.

The small top % of so-called "Peers" who validate data before it is PUBLISHED are OWNED by TPTB who ALSO OWN the Publishing houses and distribution networks....for hundreds of years Humanity has been attacked.......TPTB buy borrow or coerce or threaten this small % or 86 them to force compliance so ONLY WHAT THEY WISH RELEASED IS RELEASED....and of course they control all research grants ect ect to keep the cream of the crop between a rock and a hard place.

The withholding of knowledge and the proxy bastardisation of the Education System Globally to suppress knowledge from Humanity are by definition fiscally driven Stakeholderr Group actioned CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

The gang-stalking and murder of Tesla to support and further Edisons ideas and technologies which provided Quadrillions of dollars of cumulative income Globally is another example of this type of action......a big thank you to the global money laundering TPTB member WCB Kanada who via their SOP disenfranchisement actions provided me with the time and opportunity to become a constant learner,broke,hungry,ill,but constantly learning.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: Navarro

originally posted by: rickymouse
Step back and take a look at the whole picture. Do we really need all the technology we are creating? It seems that jobs are being replaced by computers, so how are people going to make a living? Technology puts everything at risk of hacking, humans are smarter than computers and putting our faith into something that cannot think but people believe can think is not even reational. Step back and look at the direction we are going in.

Soon the only ones who will be making a lot of money are the ones making technology and they will design technology to build technology. Where does that leave us? Homeless bums that cannot find work. It is only a matter of time.

If you think that this technology will make us all so we don not need to work you are right, but we will be completely broke and be brownnosing just to get a little food on our tables. Think a little, this sort of thing has happened in the past. A small percent of people enslaves the rest. You may think our governments are bad now, that is nothing compared to what can happen in the future.

Imagine a nation whose industry is made mostly of factories and agriculture. If you bring in technology which is capable of doubling production nation-wide, then your population can transition from 40 hour work weeks to 20 hour work weeks while maintaining their same wages, without creating inflation nor deflation. Of course, that's a rough approximation, because that technology would require maintenance and other costs, so personal income would be somewhat lower and job availability would be somewhat higher, which may then translate into a little greater than a 20 hour work week.

However, my point is that if your work hours aren't reduced by approximately half while your income remains approximately the same, then technology isn't the problem. The people writing our paychecks are the problem.


Maybe in a perfect society that would happen. We live in the United States of America though. The only way that would work is in a pure socialist society, not even remotely what we have here in this world presently. I see that ten percent of society will be enslaving ninety percent of society.

You have to consider human nature when evaluating this. Presently the ten percent is dependent on the ninety percent working for them. They will not be needed in the future. What do you think that will mean? The rest of people will be broke, they can't give money they do not have to the top ten percent.

As long as there is a need for the masses, we will be allowed to survive.

I'm not saying this is a bad idea, we need to cut down the population of humans on this planet. But My family will definitely not be needed. The only thing we have that might help us is that we have a very good immune system and I know a hell of a lot about food chemistry which I am trying to teach my kids.

From what I am seeing, population control will be done utilizing chemistry that weakens us so microbes can kill us off. Since it is done indiscriminately, it is not considered as genocide. Let the buyer beware.

While what you say is true, the fact remains that technology isn't the problem, the people cutting the checks are. The oligarchy have brainwashed and enslaved the human species since the beginning of written history. Technological advancement or not, that situation won't change, now or ever.
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posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: one4all
Our Scientific progress is hindered by people with money who commit crimes against humanity.

The small top % of so-called "Peers" who validate data before it is PUBLISHED are OWNED by TPTB who ALSO OWN the Publishing houses and distribution networks....for hundreds of years Humanity has been attacked.......TPTB buy borrow or coerce or threaten this small % or 86 them to force compliance so ONLY WHAT THEY WISH RELEASED IS RELEASED....and of course they control all research grants ect ect to keep the cream of the crop between a rock and a hard place.

The withholding of knowledge and the proxy bastardisation of the Education System Globally to suppress knowledge from Humanity are by definition fiscally driven Stakeholderr Group actioned CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

The gang-stalking and murder of Tesla to support and further Edisons ideas and technologies which provided Quadrillions of dollars of cumulative income Globally is another example of this type of action......a big thank you to the global money laundering TPTB member WCB Kanada who via their SOP disenfranchisement actions provided me with the time and opportunity to become a constant learner,broke,hungry,ill,but constantly learning.

What you say is also true, but I don't believe there exists a conscious effort among the oligarchy to subdue general scientific advancement through limiting exposure to all forms of scientific data. Nor do I expect they're opposed to the idea of discovery by layman review of that data. Instead, I think scientists are simply in the habit of traditional methodology, and generally haven't considered the advantages made available to their research via the internet. A Russian scientist collecting environmental data from the surface of Venus will make note of what he deems pertinent, and discard what he deems irrelevant, believing it junk data. Simultaneously, it would likely never cross his mind that had he posted that "irrelevant" data on the internet for all to see, a decade later a student at MIT or a cashier at Walmart might discover something remarkable among it.

You remark on Tesla, and he notoriously often failed to document his research. Without notation of his work, much of what he'd come to understand died with him. Granted, you might argue that it only appears that way because the CIA or KGB stole his notes, but that's another discussion all-together. My point is that if you possess data interpretable by a layman, then make it available to everyone on the internet, even if it seems like junk data to you. Someone will make great use of it one day. Many scientific discoveries are indeed being obstructed from the public's awareness, but the bulk of human interpretable junk data isn't one of those things.



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 12:48 AM
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a reply to: Navarro

While I understand your generic perspective I do digress in some ways....most specificlly that this data is all made available and that there is a tangible realistic chance this data which IS available will ever be used.....much of it is immediatly patented to protect it with another layer....patented and buried.

Sure anyone can research Wilbert Smith and David Hamel and Searl and Hutchison and Keshe and Grebeshnikov and many others and anyone can learn about crystal uses and harmonics and frequency applicaton and cavity effect...anyone can build any one of at least 4 different neutral dimension craft using available resources and data...one can research Hulda Clark and her work on parasites the biggest single killer of humans ever and how dding chloride and chlorine to water exponentially increases the reproduction rates and collateral damages parasites do to us and also research the connection between cancer and its cure baking soda and how its a mould and can be neutralised with Chaga Mushrooms ...how the parasitic connection works with bacteria and viruses and how it causes all illness while we also learn about natural anti-prasitic cures and of cures like sweatlodges which kill parasites of all stages and also cooks the eggs and some Camels milk which contains and transfers this anti-parasitic impact and we can also learn how to definitively illuminte the genetic machinations which are a part of us as Humans we can turn our ageing off and also turn our telepathic reception ability on.... there are kids on YT building over-unity devices and anti-gravitic devices.....a neutral dimension field generator is very very close to being reasoned out but nature is full of examples we can follow and copy like the Mantis Shrimp and observe it generating and utilising a neutral dimension field.

Anyone can put together the Crop Circle data....anyone can learn Alien math...or build a ray-gun .....sure if you can handle the incoming dataflow.

New ideas are not flooding the internet....content is.... and the majority of it by far is old data........and it is in many cases non-congruent....its simply another layer of deception.... sure we had open communications with Craft using neural dimension fields and the occupants in the 4os....but nobody knows....David Hamel built functional craft.....but nobody knows...and yes...lettered agencies steal a great deal of original one of a kind pieces of proprietary intellectual and other property.

Sure you can learn about the doctrinal connections between all religons and decipher the true history of Nibirus passage and the continental shifts and global displacement waves the ONE-TRUE-HISTORY describes.We can track and document 3,657 year Earth Change cycles and the concurrent near-extinctions of Humanity....we know Human history runs in a stacked circular pattern like a coil....not in one linear line.

Did I mention Keshe??? Well enough said right....yes the data is available ...lol.




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