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Orlando Nightclub Massacre

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posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
― Edmund Burke


True but "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" SO banning a tool is the wrong move. Dictate smaller magazines to a standard size such as 5 rounds instead and add a extra step to reloading them such as a tab you have to put under the magazine to keep it from falling out instead of locking into place in the reciver only.




posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 12:27 PM
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Good point
Terrorist?
Thought the FBI couldn't find any ties?
mobile.nytimes.com...

I figured this being Isis we would've seen another France like attack

a reply to: queenofswords



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: idab951

on the tv...the shooters' current wife drove him to the gay club..she drove him around to different places to scope out.then tried to talk him out of doing it
edit on 14-6-2016 by research100 because: added sentence



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: idab951

holy crap....the shooter was suspended when he threatened to bring a gun to his elementary school and shoot the students...when he was 10 years old.

Apparently he was also big bully in grade school

www.dailymail.co.uk... eal.html

should we start a separate thread for this inf???
edit on 14-6-2016 by research100 because: added sentence



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Indigo5



a snake.

Any electrician will quickly tell you that a plumber has no business doing wiring.
Plumbers use 'snakes' to clear drains.
Electricians use a 'fish' to pull wires.


When I was in the Coast Guard I helped some electricians mates do wire pulling. They called them "Chinese fingers"



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 02:07 PM
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originally posted by: research100
a reply to: idab951

holy crap....the shooter was suspended when he threatened to bring a gun to his elementary school and shoot the students...when he was 10 years old.

Apparently he was also big bully in grade school

www.dailymail.co.uk... eal.html

should we start a separate thread for this inf???


The plot thickens.

This was one troubled person.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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I think the fact he called 911 to state it was ISIS related means it wasn't an ISIS operation. Max damage would be to just shoot for a long as possible. Does an ISIS operation ever stop the fight to call in and wait on the authorities. He may have identified with their movement but it was just something to blame his action on, not his reality.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 03:07 PM
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Most likely a false flag, already a point of interest with actors and fake blood. Check out the vid.. youtu.be...



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: Lelotac

www.dailymail.co.uk... people-there.html

former-wife said he had 'gay tendencies' and a former classmate said the mass murderer asked him out in 2006
'He's a homosexual and he was trying to pick up men,' said Jim Van Horn, who had talked to Mateen at Pulse before
Mateen had been visiting gay clubs in the Florida area for the past decade and had no issue dancing with other men at the venues
Kevin West and Cord Cedeno both said that Mateen contacted them on gay hookup apps and Cedeno blocked him because he was 'creepy


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... people-there.html#ixzz4BaVRlbre
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posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 04:15 PM
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a reply to: 0rbital

No one is saying it would have prevented this very specific situation.

However, if you increase firearm awareness in this country, using, carrying, safety, etc. it would act a generalized deterrent from mass shootings.

I will throw my opinion in here around the mass shooting epidemic and that it has nothing to do with guns, religion, or hate. It is simply because when you shoot up a room of people, the media carries your story for literally weeks, spreading your cause for all the country to hear.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 05:18 PM
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originally posted by: Lelotac
Most likely a false flag, already a point of interest with actors and fake blood. Check out the vid.. youtu.be...


A false flag is not always FAKE. its named so because its done by someone else and pinned on another person or group.
People are so stupid they cant tell the difference between fake blood and real blood these days.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: research100
a reply to: Lelotac

www.dailymail.co.uk... people-there.html

former-wife said he had 'gay tendencies' and a former classmate said the mass murderer asked him out in 2006
'He's a homosexual and he was trying to pick up men,' said Jim Van Horn, who had talked to Mateen at Pulse before
Mateen had been visiting gay clubs in the Florida area for the past decade and had no issue dancing with other men at the venues
Kevin West and Cord Cedeno both said that Mateen contacted them on gay hookup apps and Cedeno blocked him because he was 'creepy


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... people-there.html#ixzz4BaVRlbre
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


Hillary Clinton and her campaign team (the media) would like you to believe the murderer was a troubled gay lunatic not associated to ISIS in any way. That's the story that they will endorse and it's what you will hear because the media, in the can for Hillary, will do everything they can to downplay the role of terrorism.

What we do know is that the murderer actually said he was affiliated to ISIS, ISIS claimed responsibility and this vile human being shouted Allahu Akbar as he went on his killing spree. We also know he had been questioned twice by the FBI for links to terrorism. We also know he had methodically staked out a number of potential venues for his deadly assault. None of this sounds like a closet gay outraged at seeing two men kissing.

The left can try as they might to put distance between this horrific event and radical islamic terror, but it won't work.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 05:42 PM
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If you really want to go back to the beginning.. when the CIA killed Aaron Russo for revealing a lot of the truth about them making an organization in which they blame terror attacks on.. now know as ISIS. (He got this information from 1 on 1 talks with Rockefeller as a friend) link : www.youtube.com... .. Funny considering our statue of liberty actually matches the exact description of what ISIS is supposed to look like. Being the goddess of fertility among other things.. Heres a link for that www.youtube.com...

So wouldn't it be funny if ISIS was actually just the USA killing itself and blaming it on radicals in other countries? Also the fact that some of these people who consider themselves to be real radicals in these countries start to push into this idea. Maybe they even went as far as to hire someone or a group of people to start this regime before bringing this out after 9/11.

By the way when I said fake blood, I was implying that it could either be fake.. as in not real blood at all or just real blood thrown on the pants in order to instigate the idea. Try to see from a different angle rather than propagate the idea that I am one of those stupid people who can't tell the difference.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: Lelotac

I didnt say you . I will point you out if i am going to call you a name. I mean th e youtubers who uploaded it. sorry for the confusion



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: Timely


Orlando Nightclub Massacre



Orlando Nightclub Massacre

Just heard as a breaking news story here in Oz.

20 killed in Orlando nightclub massacre.

Few details ... breaking news.

Anyone in Orlando with news on this ?

What is with all the shootings guys ?
 

www.dailyfreeman.com... [AP story]
www.cp24.com...
www.rollingstone.com...
www.ibtimes.co.in...
heavy.com... [gun man named]


so horrible, i mourn for those slain and their families have to live with this.....but i can't help wondering if this was some type of fale flag



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: Timely

Reverse Speech clips of Survivor Luis Burbano's interview on Fox


1 People figure out another route
/// Why would an (argue?) fool me

2 Made their way though and then there was a..
/// Is it another (working?) within

3 But they hit us/They got stuck in the,you know
/// ...they call us fagets and they (hit it?)

4 They got stuck in
/// and they call us fagets

5 Trying to escape and if they did
///..is not my (faith?)..

6 Tried doing what i thought would be best at that moment.
/// then my mother said (3 undis. words) The other one was (DAESH?)

7 They will die, and thats when it hit him, and he just
/// Sitting under the hillside there eyes will be hit

8 The shock factor, there was a shock factor, it was (odd?)
/// (asu?), theres aircrashe's. Nerds have caution

9 That I was talking to..
/// At least we have survived

10 He doesnt even know it
/// No i knew he would, he..(was looking?)

11 Yeah, its what..Yeah.
/// I heard "Sieg Heil"

12 When I told them that i took of my other shirt (undis.)
turning it around him, and they were able to uhm..
/// Naah.. (I? still hear (of?) being a n- national leader that are /// (Undis.word) down brothers , and it goes down

13 ???... When i ran out I...
/// Yeah..Why an error random.. ... Why (udis. word) shot in the face

14 And push(ed) against to make sure it..
/// They rush in with the nightvision, uhh

15 We just kept the door shut, trying to get everyone..
/// Shot down with (really?) daesh sure in the back, sees you

16 ....we just had the idea to close the door shut
/// That sure was a (akwardy?), day /// Daesh sure was his role, but he died, that his new (*) lost

17 we had first pushed our way through the ,, the door,
and uhm, it was a small alley way
/// inhaled in our homes, its good, and my he-heroism is uhm /// (guilty?) watching, zerg dying

18 Yeah, uh, he uhm...
/// My eye

19 Recording of the interview


Some of the clips has been slowed down a little, but if you want to check for yourself,
just reverse the entire interview and listen to it in normal speed.
This is my personal translation, so please let me know if you hear anything else in these clips, or in the interview.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

Not a horrible idea, but I don't see how that helps the real problem.

A person killed people, not an inanimate object.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: AboveBoard

originally posted by: Timely
Anybody seen this ... ?

yournewswire.com...

Wow !


I am not sure that is real. I went to the HufPo site and there was NO mention of this after searching.
Can you find anything on this other than what you linked??

- AB


There are quite a few links here.

www.google.com.au...=hu ffington+post+reward+for+orlando+falae+flag+proof

They seem to hail back to huff post bloggers club.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 08:12 PM
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I have no clue if this source is reliable but I just found this

Orlando Shooter Was Gay, Former Classmate Says



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: SomeDumbBroad
I have no clue if this source is reliable but I just found this

Orlando Shooter Was Gay, Former Classmate Says


There are multiple men saying he was gay.

It was reported that his first wife said his father called him gay in front of her

Usually, you get one or two accusations. This seems to be way more then that.



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