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originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: BO XIAN
The overall creation of neurological structures is interesting, and universally applicable beyond this subject.
But, in the specific arena of smoking, I think we have some other factors in play that affect results. One being that many smokers tend to want to quit, or at least cut down. In this, individuals will tend to look for reasons to do so. Basically, I would ascribe the small discrepancy between groups on the novelty of a new reason, or excuse, to make a quit attempt. Even from the group with text only warnings, over a third made efforts to quit.
I'd suspect that in a market that has been saturated with images of this type for years, the difference between groups would be negligible at best.
In this respect, the pictorial warnings may well be marginally effective in the short term (as shown), in a market where they do not currently exist. However, as a long term solution, it may not only be subject to the issues with constant exposure (desensitization), but could even cause a slight increase in failed cessation attempts (for the reasons detailed in my previous post).
Personally, I'm a big advocate of vaping for these purposes. Though, with the air quality in large population centers, all of this may be a moot point to begin with.
I suppose its also noteworthy that rebellion against authority is common when that authority constantly breaches the trust implicit in the position. Off topic as an overall subject, but I do believe it plays a part in these things.
originally posted by: Bluesma
a reply to: BO XIAN
All the packs here already have gruesome photos on them. That was started many years ago.
When I was a smoker, I didn't feel any impact. I knew the risks. I just was not real happy with my life and thinking dying earlier sounded fine with me, as long as I can find some pleasure it that shorter life.
I think there is sometimes a slightly suicidal subconscious element to it already. It made me laugh to hear people trying to scare me by telling me I'll die. Living a long life with the daily crap I detested was nothing I aspired to.
originally posted by: Caver78
I think you may be soap-boxing a bit here....LOL!
Bringing any religion into this is unnecessary. Not to mention not every smoker is christian, I certainly am not.
I'm offended you did.
People decide to smoke for many different reasons and NOT all in the teenage years. I didn't start till I was 25, married and successfully living independently.
It wasn't because I was peer-pressured, it wasn't because I was neglected as a child, it wasn't because I was uneducated. It certainly wasn't because of the Marlboro man and big tobacco's marketing!
They taste good and I like them, the KISS principle is applicable here.
Sweden had massive success with a vaccine that was an antismoking deferent and years ago it went to human trials. I showed it to my Internist. Surprisingly nothing has been heard since and guaranteed the FDA won't approve it.
There may be a day when I voluntarily wish to quit, however should that day come I am not willing to be forced into needless discomfort when it absolutely ISN'T necessary.
Regardless everyone quits when they die, so don't give up hope,
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness
No I did not miss it.
Its just time smokers to stand up and tell everyone to butt out of our business.
Did you miss the part in the OP where he called smokers "discusting".
Why in hell do we put up with that #?
As for studies that show that parts of the brain of a smoker light up when they look at a new picture, indicating that they are paying more attention. Well show them a new picture of anything and I am sure they will pay attention, we all do the first time just to see if we have it in our collection.
Has anyone ever heard of first and second order desires.
Ask a fat person if they want to loose weight. A vast majority will answer yes. Then put a juicy cheeseburger in front of them. The vast majority will eat it. That is because the second order desire is to lose weight. The first order desire is to eat that cheeseburger.
When smokers say they want to quit smoking, they are expressing a second order desire. Usually, when a smoker is asked if they want to lose weight, what they want is for the person asking to mind their own business. Saying you are going to quit is a way of shutting down the conversation.
When people ask me if I want to quit smoking, I usually look them up and down and ask them why they want to know. if they persist, I ask them if we can discuss their wieght problem. They usually get offended at this point and I innocently reply that I thought personal lifestyle choice discussion were up for grabs. If they discuss mine, I can certainly discuss theirs.
Tired of Control Freaks