Is there real immortals among us?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

That's the ticket through, essentially you are asking "are we greater than the sum of our parts"?

Humanity probobly shares some from of group consciousness, but that does not mean we cannot utilize technologies to access such a concept. Even if it does raise some ethical conundrums as to us interrupting what some would consider to be the natural process of life.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

That's the ticket through, essentially you are asking "are we greater than the sum of our parts"?

There isn't really any 'parts' - there is just what is.

Humanity probobly shares some from of group consciousness, but that does not mean we cannot utilize technologies to access such a concept. Even if it does raise some ethical conundrums as to us interrupting what some would consider to be the natural process of life.

It is not that it is unethical - it is just a misunderstanding of what you essentially are.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

That makes perfect sense really considering Humanity seems rather misunderstood in general.

Truth is we may never have the ability to construct the tools or even posses the mental capacity to address some of the yet unanswerable questions pertaining to the reality we experience or the universe we think we exist in.

In the grand scheme of things we probobly are just not that important.

originally posted by: andy06shake
In the grand scheme of thing we probobly just not that important.

What you are actually is beyond words, but it would be not untrue to say you are nothing whatsoever other than pure, infinite, disembodied consciousness/intelligence; a field of miraculous infinite light; God dreaming itself; an infinite point of pure potential; or the infinite implications of nothing whatsoever.

The immediate presentation of this unspeakable actuality is the field of your experience, which is an instantaneously appearing virtual field of Radiant Presence as apparent qualities. This is the actuality of which every/ and any/ thing that you think exists consists. This is inclusive and complete; nothing whatever other than this field exists. In short, the entirety of Reality is the "bubble" of YOUR experience, the field of Radiant Presence, which alone exists.

This is the totality of Reality. This is not theoretical, but is actually, immediately real; always the case right here right now. theopendoorway.org...

I am only 73.45% the sum of my parts.

originally posted by: wdkirk
I am only 73.45% the sum of my parts.

90% of a human body is bacteria.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

"What you are actually is beyond words."

Oh i don't know about that, i can think of quite a few choice words that describes our current iteration of existence.

What we actually are seems to be a collection of biological information that thinks its sentient and/or in the possession of freewill. Which is a tenuous concept at best and probobly an illusion.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

"What you are actually is beyond words."

Oh i don't know about that, i can think of quite a few choice words that describes our current iteration of existence.

What we actually are seems to be a collection of biological information that thinks its sentient and/or in the possession of freewill. Which is a tenuous concept at best and probably an illusion.

Thought is an appearance - it appears and disappears in the space that you are and is not made of anything other than the space.
There is no freewill - whatever appears on/in/as the space, just appears.
You are like the tv screen - everything that appears on the screen is constantly changing - the screen is always present but continually looks different.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

What do you think about the concept of Synchronicity, which holds that events are nothing more than meaningful coincidences. How do you think, or do you think, that synchronicity plays its part with regards to the Human condition?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

What do you think about the concept of Synchronicity, which holds that events are nothing more than meaningful coincidences. How do you think, or do you think, that synchronicity plays its part with regards to the Human condition?

There is nothing meaningful - life is meaningless. Life does not need meaning to be.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Life may not require meaning but us mere Humans do indeed require such a luxury.

Without meaning or meaningful answers to the questions we pose as a species Humanity is doomed to repeat her mistakes time and time again which is clearly illustrated by history.

Meaning or the meaningfulness of any situation is defined by perspective.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Without meaning or meaningful answers to the questions we pose as a species Humanity is doomed to repeat her mistakes time and time again which is clearly illustrated by history.

Has it ever been considered that 'thought' maybe the issue. There a problem with how thought works - it assumes that there is 'something' which does not exist. The assumption of something which does not exist is defended and this causes thought to be dangerous and destructive.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Well that's been revised

www.sciencenews.org...’s-bacteria-don’t-outnumber-human-cells-so-much-after-all

Scientists who study the microbiome, the collection of microorganisms that live in and on the human body, have peppered research papers with an estimate that bacteria outnumber human cells 10-to-1 or even 100-to-1. In recent years, those estimates have come into question, with the American Academy of Microbiology suggesting in 2013 that the real figure is probably closer to three bacterial cells for each human cell.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Lets just say that its a very interesting subject to ponder.

If we ever managed to obtain the answers to any of the really big questions i don't imagine existence will hold the appeal in the same manner it does in our ignorant state of being.

Enjoyed the discussion through.

Need to wrap it up for a while as i have Xmas eve to deal with presently.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

life is meaningless. Life does not need meaning to be.

Do you have young children, or did anyone come to you for advice - you must sound like a machine to them. Does Love ever "appear" or "arise" in your field of perception?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Has it ever been considered that 'thought' maybe the issue

Going by that logic you type on ATS without thinking?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: andy06shake
In the grand scheme of thing we probobly just not that important.

What you are actually is beyond words, but it would be not untrue to say you are nothing whatsoever other than pure, infinite, disembodied consciousness/intelligence; a field of miraculous infinite light; God dreaming itself; an infinite point of pure potential; or the infinite implications of nothing whatsoever.

The immediate presentation of this unspeakable actuality is the field of your experience, which is an instantaneously appearing virtual field of Radiant Presence as apparent qualities. This is the actuality of which every/ and any/ thing that you think exists consists. This is inclusive and complete; nothing whatever other than this field exists. In short, the entirety of Reality is the "bubble" of YOUR experience, the field of Radiant Presence, which alone exists.

This is the totality of Reality. This is not theoretical, but is actually, immediately real; always the case right here right now. theopendoorway.org...

Everything in the universe is connected from the smallest particle to galactic clusters. The universe encompasses everything we see and even imagine or create. Just the fact we exist in the universe makes up part of it and yes the universe developed consciousness or again we wouldn't be here. Id say humans were an inevitability in a universe that will contain every possibility In fact we probably pop up in multiple places in the universe we would have to.

a reply to: DarkvsLight29

What would keep an immortal from assuming room temperature if someone chopped of their head? The whole idea is fantasy as far as I'm concerned. A physical body will always be subject to death.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
Does Love ever "appear" or "arise" in your field of perception?

The word 'love' is appearing presently and the entire image that is appearing is love.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Has it ever been considered that 'thought' maybe the issue

Going by that logic you type on ATS without thinking?

No one thinks!!
Thoughts happen but no one is doing thought or even having a thought.
Is there an assumption there of some thing which does not exist?