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My Reptilian, UFO, Mutilation experience.

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posted on Jan, 15 2005 @ 10:11 PM
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the reptoids are real I saw 2 of them and wasnt alone when i saw them.

I drew pictures and posted my story,

www.geocities.com...

this is what they did to the cow i saw it cut the face that is where it starts.
check it out and be kind it really happened and im really pissed off.

www.think-aboutit.com...

we humans are so funny
you say i dont see anything, yet:
you look not upward
you look not downward
you look not in the vast oceans
you live on a small portion of crust on the planet yet havent
even seen all the species of life on it!
you contemplate the thought of looking for ET in space
yet not on or in your own planet.

If one man in 1700's never dug into the earth you would never know of the 50 ft tall flesh eating lizzards that ruled this planet for eons. even as that was hard to belive for many "at the time". we call them dinosaurs

yet say lizzard or dinosaur men and people turn away.

think about this:
if we evolved from mammals shoudnt their be a reptilian counterpart especially if they were here millions of years before us?
yes

did they ever leave?
nope

think about the reaction of the gen public if gov. came out and showed you.

what then?

would some raise up in arms to slay the dragon?
yes

would some worship them ?
yes

would some sell out their own kind (humanity) for technology or power ?
yes

would you lose your innocence?
yes

who would have the right and authority to take the WORLDs innocence?
www.disclosureproject.org...

Who has the right to sit on the info and refuse disclosure?
your own leaders


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1--Yes,the possibility of the evolution of the intelligence in reptiles is fact.It is possible.I dont deny that.But what i do deny is clearly their existance,why?so little sightings.You name me all the sightings been made of Reptillians,give me websites,you name it.

2--Also,even if reptillians have evolved to such an intelligents as we have,dont you think they would of populated just asmuch as us.I dont think billions of reptillians would beable to hide from us for such along period,i verymuch doubt it.

3--Explain to me another thing,why would reptillians be such an advanced race when all they`ve been doing is hiding from us,sitting underground with almost no resources,no place for them to develop interms of technology and noplace for them to develop any further intelligence to communicate with us what so ever.So far the fact of another intelligent species from earth developing just asmuch technical advancements as us,probably more from all the stories iv heard,and yet hiding their billions all around seems unlikely.


1---I dont have all the answers yet !
but i have sources which ive confirmed with these truths.
This may take awhile.....

case files:

here is 34 of them
www.angelfire.com...

then when your done do a search in google with these words:
reptilian abduction
reptoids
saurians
dinomen
cow
lizard men
sleestack
seraphum = gods guards at throne

then mix it up put cow in with search, as most true encounters with reps are because of the witnesses of the cow mutalations.

as mine was, you see i only belive in similar stories becuase of the details they give like the eyes. ill never forget their yellow star shaped eyes.

or the horrible screams of that cow thats when it wasnt cool anymore.

2-- the dulce wars will answer that question read it all here online
this is also confirmed
www.thewatcherfiles.com...

some are here but few, maybe 1 million or less
most left to colonize other systems but keep outposts like" terra"
my belife is the rest will come soon in mass and feed on the ripe harvest of the earth and reap the garden.

3--" the greatest thing satan(the serpent,dragon) ever did was to convince the world he never existed." one cannot defend against an enemy he doesnt know exists
"divide and conquer"

" dulce wars" again as well as " the montauk project"
www.montaukproject.com...
www.v-j-enterprises.com...

the old show "V" is a perfect parable to our real situation and towards that end.
its not to far fetched if you think about it, food chain is highly accepted fact however our place in it needs a reveiw...


need i remind you that mercy and compassion are mammalian traits not reptilian . Ever see a gator feel bad for prey or take anothers young in as its own? no sir but mammals do.
will our compassion and naivety be our undoing as we sit in blissfully , content , ignorance and apathy.

you see people , to kill us all is to see us as a threat, which they do not.
does a cattle rancher kill all at once or have some left on hand...

example: why kill all the cows in your pasture when u can milk them every day and feed off the weak one thats killed every so often. which in turn strenthens your herd. do you fear a revolt from the cows in their pens ?

does it look to the cow as if we are the good guys
feeding them every day, taking care of them when ill, breeding oppertunities, fattening up of the herd (b4 the slaughter)? moooooo

does one cow escape the sluaghter and tell the others
"hey u wont belive this the good guys are gonna eat us"
would they belive or continue grazing the fine grass prepared for them....

or use jesus's analogy of lambs of god... bhaaaaaah baaa

could we be in big round pastures with no way out TILL NOW.
could this be pressure the rancher to act and contain the cattle?
all of a sudden...

the majority will come in mass within 10 years prolly 2012 when india will release
ufo info to world if U.S. does not. but at that point itll be obvious and like armegedeon or war of worlds for real.

in the near future you will be pounded with reptile and ufo subjects as desensitiseing gen pub begins

But they didnt eat either one of us and as far as i know im ok.
maybe to many toxins in my system ,lol
i wouldnt like mercury in my tuna either. yuk




deny ignorance

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[edit on 15-1-2005 by lizzardsamok]




posted on Jan, 15 2005 @ 10:44 PM
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need i remind you that mercy and compassion are mammalian traits not reptilian . Ever see a gator feel bad for prey or take anothers young in as its own? no sir but mammals do.


news.nationalgeographic.com...



Among reptiles only crocodiles and their relatives tend both eggs and hatchlings

from

www.stanfordalumni.org...

www.google.com.au...:ft76zJhQnukJ:www.bio.usyd.edu.au/Shinelab/old%2520labbers/daveo/364lizardsinnuclear.pdf+lizards+parental+ care&hl=en




I never saw any mammal get upset about killing prey either!


How many times have you posted your story on various threads here now? Isnt once enough?

But they didnt eat either one of us and as far as i know im ok.
maybe to many toxins in my system ,lol
i wouldnt like mercury in my tuna either. yuk


Maybe its the taste of BS they didnt like!



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posted on Jan, 15 2005 @ 10:52 PM
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These mutilations are strange. What are these body parts being used for? I don't like this, when you start mutilating humans, like they are some mindless animal that, not good. Hello, Mr. Grey, Mr. Reptillian, or whoever you are, what are you trying to accomplish?

Troy



posted on Jan, 16 2005 @ 12:28 AM
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I found answers for those questions many places.


ITs all about FOOD

The lizard/reptile people if you will were carnivors.
appearently for blood, hormones, sexual organs, eyes, toungue,
entire endocrine system, lips, and anus.

the shoulder holes are were the tentacle attaches to it,see the char and the square fromed by a cylinder across arm !

as hard as it is going to be to belive take what i say and apply it to EVERY case and youll see it fits everytime cause its true...
read what the other witnesses said here
www.crowdedskies.com...

Its ufo's with a robotic metallic glowing white electricfied tentacle or noodle.
(looks like this)
jlnlabs.imars.com...

DISK hovers over cow then a beam of laser like light comes down.
paralyzes and lifts up cow half way to ship off ground.
(cow is silent)
The tentacle unfolds out like a birds leg would come down and unfold.
(12-14 feet if fully extended)
then it wraps around the cow hovering in mid air going from under it, up , and around the cow like a boa constricter would
then tightening its grip , thats when i heard and saw the electricity coming off its tip and it cutting up the cows face!!!!

the cow started screaming but wasnt kicking or moving much but SCREEEEEEEAMING SCREEEEEEEAMING it was horrible.
(This is where we approached the ufo to DO SOMETHING to stop this, bad idea)
we also could hear a rushing sound and saw the tentacle kick like a vacum hose and sucking/rushing noise like water thru a hose noise .

it kept moving around with percision from face to stomach area to anus!
and it was touching the cow in multiple areas on the tentacle
but instead of suction cups -tools on it in like 3 places,
the whole thing was segmented like a worm and emiting light.

an alien electric straw? mmmmmm yum yums

mexico - el chubra cabbra
india - face scratcher
usa - flying firey serpent

and im not comfortable with it either but to tell people and have them honestlly belive you is a different story.
we need to get our act together...

Props to you cybertroy you got my point excactly.


[edit on 16-1-2005 by lizzardsamok]



posted on Jan, 22 2005 @ 12:28 AM
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I submitted my report to mufon and a few others today ask me ill post it.



posted on Jan, 22 2005 @ 12:37 AM
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I should of known this would happen.But alright,atleast your sending proof.It wont harm looking into them.



posted on Jan, 22 2005 @ 02:00 AM
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Here is mofun's responce to my report...



Dear Sir,

Your web site was interesting and contained a few more details of the event you mentioned. Your drawings were quite good.

Since you say you do not live in Kissimmee, where do you live? I need to know whether it is feasible for me to interview you or possibly to send an investigator who lives closer.

Where does the other person who was taken aboard the craft live? And what about the girl that you saw later? Would she be available for an interview?

A possible match for your lizard entities might be a species called "iguanoids" who had tails and round pupils, five fingers and were seen wearing hoods. Were you able to see the hands of the creatures? Why do you believe that they are from Earth? Some investigators believe that there is a "reptilian" species that lives underground, but evidence is sketchy.

Thank you for your help.

Mary Margaret Zimmer


They werent laughing as you can see black steel ....



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 04:47 AM
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Wow thats a wild story, whether it did happen exactly how you said or not. I commend you on your courage to come forward with this, aslong as you were as wake as day.

I wouldn't be opening this type of info up to your immediate family or friends though, they would take one look at you and think you are crazy.

I'm not saying one way or another this happend to you, I believe you think it did happen to you. But others might not be so accepting of this idea, you ask any shrink and they will tell you, you were sleeping or in nightmare paralysis. From what I've heard its rare to get sleep paralysis, but its also rare to get abducted in the fashion that you did.

Well if your going to try to convince people of your experience outside of internet forums, you'd be hard pressed. There is John Mack, who is a qualified psychciatrist. You can go to his site, and email him or phone him up. (Assuming you live in U.S.)

It's a long shot maybe, but if you want disclosure, or atleast confirmation I'm sure you and your friend's story would be interesting case. Simply because your friend experienced the same thing, means you have a witness a double abduction, that certainly adds more credibility as appose to a one individual.



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by lord finesse420
Wow thats a wild story, whether it did happen exactly how you said or not. I commend you on your courage to come forward with this, aslong as you were as wake as day.

Thank you sir, I was more awake than you could possibly imagine!
we both remembered peices of what just happened then looked to see if cow was there and surprise, surprise, it was.... I belive this is why we remember alot of it, as we talked about it right after it happened.
We did tell our friends then but like you didnt belive, we then dragged them all out to the flippin cow at which point they had to belive,but still refused to discuss it further out of fear.....Saddest part....

"I wouldn't be opening this type of info up to your immediate family or friends though, they would take one look at you and think you are crazy. "


My freinds are 100% convinced, I have even ran into military with friends and asked out of blue about the lizards, my friends were shocked that so many high ranking people knew and were willing to talk to "those who know" . But this is only past year...
My friends also know me to be quite educated, skeptical, intelligent and wise for my age as well as very genuine.
If you ask Gov. people in private you'll be surprised what is not known to the general public. they call Gen PUB= LA LA LAND= its a state of mind.

"I'm not saying one way or another this happend to you, I believe you think it did happen to you. But others might not be so accepting of this idea, you ask any shrink and they will tell you, you were sleeping or in nightmare paralysis. From what I've heard its rare to get sleep paralysis, but its also rare to get abducted in the fashion that you did."

Yes indeed, no dream, 7-8:00 PM entering car with friend.

"Well if your going to try to convince people of your experience outside of internet forums, you'd be hard pressed. There is John Mack, who is a qualified psychciatrist. You can go to his site, and email him or phone him up. (Assuming you live in U.S.)"

Im highly insullted as to you implying i need a psychciatrist!
AS the dead cow was real, happened to 2 people, while fully awake, I was entering my CAR! I lost intrest in convincing the inconvincable.

It's a long shot maybe, but if you want disclosure, or atleast confirmation I'm sure you and your friend's story would be interesting case. Simply because your friend experienced the same thing, means you have a witness a double abduction, that certainly adds more credibility as appose to a one individual.

Daaaamn right ,

AND as ive said before ill put my money were my mouth is !
Set up a lie detector test ill accept what else could i do?

Im still not sure proving this or even coming out to public in other media would be such a good idea as i like living.....
so its not really my mission to prove it to you if you know what i mean.



And the striaght jacket and padded room is what I saw coming if we reported it to the police then. which is why we didnt. lol
I bet others are out there who wont tell till people are more educated and open to the topic, I bet thousands.....
And when people as a whole, stop reffering others to mental institutions
for real things they can not or will not understand.
Like the dark ages....... go ignorant christian dogma, yea


belive it or not it took alot for me to talk about this,
I have no agenda,
I wish only to bring awareness to those who are ready to handle it.




[edit on 23-1-2005 by lizzardsamok]



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 06:44 PM
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I don't blame out lizzardsamok. Even the most grounded emotional person would have alot of trouble coming to grips with this. Atleast at first I'm sure they would, I know I would have alot of trouble.

I again want to commend you on your courage to tell your story, and you know your not alone. In a big way you should feel very honoured to be chosen in one way or another (w/ or w/ out your will, it seems some aliens don't particularly take that into account) to be enlightened to the realities of the diverse and ever expanding universe.

Without a doubt the most challenging spirtual, emotional, social, political or whatever issue for the human race is the real and almost certain possibility of other lifeforms of conscious intelligence.

I sometimes don't think people realize the immense, radical implications of the discovery of other intelligent life. It would literally be the biggest news event, headline what have you, in human history.

I would certainly hope it would cause our race to bind together and accept the implications and release, social, political, and religious indifferences which have plagued our race for centuries.

Reagan always alluded to this fact. I would like to end my post with his quote, but I'm running out of time. I'm sure you've read it, the jist of his quote was if there was a extra terrestrial enemy or threat then all of our political, social, religious indifferences would suddenly seem very frutile to an ever more incredible opponent.

Instead of enemy I like to think other intelligent lifeforms with a highly understanding, reasoning, and intelligence above humans would be peaceful.

And as a result instead would lead by example, and influence us with scientific innovations, cures, etc. Not only that but change the way human politics has been played for a long time. I'd have to think our political reasoning and understanding is far below that of a lifeform so intelligent to travel such seemingly incomprehensible distances.

Wow I went on a friendly rant there. I Just love entertaining the thought for all of the implications on us as humans would on such a grand scale never seen before in our human history.

I shouldn't see why it doesn't interest more scientists, philosophers and creative thinkers to itch the scratch of such grand and universal implications on human nature. This is of course assuming they have made contact with us already, which I truely believe they have.

lizzardasmok I can tell it's become a fascination with you, and I can't see why not. Nobody asks this on themselves, a one time you were a simple human trying to cope with life on a day-to-day basis and something as profound like this happend to choose you and your friend.

There are plently of abduction books out there, some more credible then others of course. I suggest you buy a John Mack book on abductions, I think he has a few out. Yes he tries to profit from these books, but his profits are not for greed as much as for the cause and awareness for others like you. So you realize your certainly not alone.

Just be happy you were taken up by what sounds like 'friendly' reptilians species. From what I've heard about abductions, although the abductors can have friendly intentions the understandable trauma that the person receives clouds the alien's true intentions. Whether those are noble or devious intentions at that.

What could be a few simple tests and samples for the abductee could be far more hurtful for the state of mind or human psyche.

It's always a good sign when they release you and leave you where you were taken from.
For all you know they gave you some ability, or cure, who knows. I'm sure their intentions were friendly though since they only inconvienced you for a couple hours. Also the decency to drop you off where they have taken you from. (your car in this case)

Fascinating... As a young student I can't help but entertain the thought. Makes you wonder about your place in our world let alone our place in the universe.

God bless



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 09:51 PM
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Even though these Aliens or whatever they are (in my theory they are ancient terrans) were not hostile towards Amok, they have been hostile to other humans...

That's the major concern about his story, but his event will proof that they are neutral at best...

This story was definitly very rare since it involved the first abduction to be paired with a cow mutliation showing a direct link between the two never provided, only speculated...

There seems to be an incredible amount of races which all probably have completely different agenda's.

This story is definitly very credible since the author has been backing up his claims legitimately, and I doubt any hoaxer would get in contact with MUFON and pursue this issue so obsesively (which is completely understood by me).

The only question I have is, why do the aliens steal our cattle and wildlife while they can just clone tissue them selves? do they enjoy pain and suffering perhaps? is this a reptillian trait?



posted on Jan, 23 2005 @ 10:27 PM
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Wow Im hopeful for our future from just these two posts!

You see my effort was not in vain, I reached a couple souls...

Im glad you guys at least realise im serious and not joking as people couldnt even get past it before.

And you see im sane and rational just like you, and just searching for real answers that are out there just out of reach at the moment.

I cant belive i cant find a cattle researcher to even tell this story to.
ANd thats sad to me cause here we saw and know exactlly what happened and facts will prove me right yet they probably still wont accept it.

Help me find someone credible to listen to me.

[edit on 23-1-2005 by lizzardsamok]



posted on Jan, 24 2005 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by lizzardsamok
Wow Im hopeful for our future from just these two posts!

You see my effort was not in vain, I reached a couple souls...

Im glad you guys at least realise im serious and not joking as people couldnt even get past it before.

And you see im sane and rational just like you, and just searching for real answers that are out there just out of reach at the moment.

I cant belive i cant find a cattle researcher to even tell this story to.
ANd thats sad to me cause here we saw and know exactlly what happened and facts will prove me right yet they probably still wont accept it.

Help me find someone credible to listen to me.

[edit on 23-1-2005 by lizzardsamok]


Well up until Sept 27/04, John E. Mack PhD was a Harvard prof and wrote many books about abduction cases through his regression therapy. That us up until Sept 27th when he was accidently killed by a drunk driver while crossing the street.

johnemackinstitute.org...

I would use google to find some legit abduction report sites, they are some out there. You'll probably find other abductees that describe the same race, or some variation of a lizard. Theres a few interesting and scary looking illustrations I've seen of supposed reptilians. One interesting I like to take note in is if the aliens are depicted in this illustrations with disposable thumbs. Maybe if they did that gives us some insight to how they as well as us homosapiens evolved from primitive mammals or reptiles into our present forms with the luxury of having thumbs to use tools, the art of dexterity crucial for human evolution.

Do you remember what your reptilian's digits were like? Possible claws? Or maybe something more similar to ours ideal for crafting.

[edit on 24-1-2005 by lord finesse420]



posted on Jan, 24 2005 @ 01:21 AM
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Good question I drew it but didnt include it,
I only saw the soldiers hands up close , but he had 3 fingers and 1 thumb, the thumb was slightly back farther than ours, about a .75 inch down.
They had little claws like .5 inch long and like a dinosaur would or lizard real pointy looking but dulled a bit at tip.

The middle finger stood out to us, it looked fatter or wider than the ones beside it, almost 2 fingers thick compared to other digits even thumb.

our thumb is biggest digit theirs is mid finger...
I never thought about it in depth before good question.

Oh no webs between fingers...
AND feet OMG the feet were cool and freaky at same time,
3 toes with a 4th up higher and smaller like a dogs pinky toe,
they walked on their toes not heals and had no shoes on.

Ive seen dinosaur tracks that look like their feet could fit it.
Maybe they were not old dinos persay at all, lol


Here is a back up site hosting my story:
www.freewebs.com...



[edit on 24-1-2005 by lizzardsamok]



posted on Jan, 24 2005 @ 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by lizzardsamok
Good question I drew it but didnt include it,
I only saw the soldiers hands up close , but he had 3 fingers and 1 thumb, the thumb was slightly back farther than ours, about a .75 inch down.
They had little claws like .5 inch long and like a dinosaur would or lizard real pointy looking but dulled a bit at tip.

The middle finger stood out to us, it looked fatter or wider than the ones beside it, almost 2 fingers thick compared to other digits even thumb.

our thumb is biggest digit theirs is mid finger...
I never thought about it in depth before good question.

Oh no webs between fingers...
AND feet OMG the feet were cool and freaky at same time,
3 toes with a 4th up higher and smaller like a dogs pinky toe,
they walked on their toes not heals and had no shoes on.

Ive seen dinosaur tracks that look like their feet could fit it.
Maybe they were not old dinos persay at all, lol


Here is a back up site hosting my story:
www.freewebs.com...



[edit on 24-1-2005 by lizzardsamok]


Very interesting... Yes, I agree the importance of the anatomy of these creatures can help bring credibility to the existence of the aliens.

I'm sure if you found a zoologist, or somebody specializing in reptiles they would be able to match up what you describe to something of what we have on earth. Maybe it's feet/hands have similarities with komodo dragons, or iguanas, the possibilities are pretty endless.

Composite sketches would probably be the best for detailed illustration of the reptilian. If I had some artistic skill, or a steady hand I'd think about drawing them myself, thats if I had the experience you did.

Hell the earth is how old? Its commonly known to geologists that some rocks on earth date back 4.0-4.1 billion years ago. Theres a wide window of opportunity for such intelligent reptiles to evolve into intelligent concious beings. If I had to guess I'd say before the dinosaurs even, yet of course theres no evidence of anything like that.

Yet I'd say mother Earth does a good job of replenshing the Earth every 100,000 years or so. We know its only a matter of time before the Earth's life gets devestated from either an Asteroid, Volcano eruptions, earthquakes, giant landsides that result in giant tsunamis. Its interesting to think about the possibilities for a 4 billion year old rock that is Earth.

Geologists are always changing their opinions and theorize on what the Earth was like millions and billions of years ago. Only 200 million years ago Dinosaurs existed, chances are not all reptiles were whiped out. Imagine what other mammals or reptiles given the ability for advanced concious intelligence could create in a span of 100 million or so years. Humans have done so much and we aren't suppose to be older then 10 million.

What's more interesting is why or how could primitive creatures like apes and reptiles could evolve over various spans of time to become more intelligent, cognitive, and an increased brain size.

Do anthropologists don't even have reasons for why humans evolved into intelligent beings like we did. Why apes? why not other creatures? Questions we can best theorize at since it was so long ago.

[edit on 24-1-2005 by lord finesse420]



posted on Jan, 25 2005 @ 01:44 PM
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John Rhodes
Cryptozoologist - Subsurface Investigator
www.reptoids.com...

He is leading public figure as to this but there are others,
The gave it somekind of laitin name, il find it.

REPTILIAN HUMANOIDS [HOMO-SUBTERREPTUS]


It didnt look like this though , not what we saw.
If you add a 3 ft tail,not dragging, then change head to a snake or lizard like head. More like the dino's head beside it, long snout!
Then thats close to what we saw that day...

And wow no ridicule!
And great question!
thanl you.

[edit on 25-1-2005 by lizzardsamok]



posted on Jan, 25 2005 @ 02:49 PM
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Seems like more and more people are seeing these reptilian motherfukers every day. Ive never seen or known anyone thats seen one of them but I find it hard to believe that all these people would make this shet up for absolutely no reason at all.

The first site I saw relating to the subject was this
www.geocities.com...
That just seemed like some paranoid lunatics writing this bull# for god knows what reason

Then I saw this one
www.davidicke.com...
Just seemed like some acidhead trying to make a bit of money.

I thought this was a load of bull# until I saw this site
www.geocities.com...
I find it hard to believe that someone would go to all this trouble to write all this stuff for absolutely no reason at all, doesnt look like this site makes any money so why else would someone write all this?

The other sites I saw are just retarded like these ones
www.thewatcherfiles.com...
how the fuk would they know that all these people are aliens, thats probably the stupidest site ive ever seen on the subject. These pricks who made this site make the subject into a joke by claiming all these people are evil reptile aliens.

aliens.monstrous.com...
This ones equally as stupid, even if all these alien races existed how the hell would they know all these details about them and the picture on the main page looks like something out of star wars or something.

www.nibiruancouncil.com...
This one isnt as bad as the last ones but they still say some retarded shet like this:



The Reptilians are the creation of the Carians, their parent race. They evolved on a planet in the Alpha Draconi star system of the Orion Constellation. The royal line of Reptilians are the Draconians, the winged dragons. The name of their royal line is the House of Aln. This is not the exact spelling, but it is close. It is more like Oln or Ahln. Still, keeping this in mind, the Council requested I spell it Aln.

I suppose a reptilian told the creator of this site what star system they come from and how they evolved.

www.subversiveelement.com...
This one on the other hand is pretty smart seeing as they are refering to science and religion rather than making up complete bullshet like "reptilians come from the alpha draco galaxy and the galactic orion universe and all that crap"

Looks like theres alot more sites about reptilians being make if you type in reptilians on google youll get at least 15 pages of sites, about a year ago it was much less.

[edit on 25-1-2005 by fishbrain]

[edit on 25-1-2005 by fishbrain]



posted on Jan, 25 2005 @ 02:49 PM
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Lizzardsamok you are either a liar or a fraud. This post should be removed for violating the rules of the board.



posted on Jan, 25 2005 @ 02:57 PM
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Lizzardsamok you are either a liar or a fraud. This post should be removed for violating the rules of the board.


Not saying the story is true, but so far, I've seen nothing to establish as fact that he is either a liar or a fraud, so to ridicule is a bit hasty... Lets keep it civil...



posted on Jan, 25 2005 @ 02:58 PM
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And what makes you think he/shes a fraud?




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