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NADER: [Y]ou see this when you walk past construction sites and you talk with white male workers, they feel they have been verbally repressed. It's hard for someone your age to understand what I'm about to say. They like to stand on a corner and whistle at a pretty lady. They like to flirt. But they can't do that anymore. Multiply that across the continuum. You can't say this about that, and you can't say that about this. And the employer tells you to hush. And perhaps your spouse tells you to hush, and your kids tell you to hush. So they have a whole language that they inherited—ethnic words like Polack. A lot of these people grew up on ethnic jokes, which are totally taboo now. Do you know, Lydia, there are no ethnic-joke books in bookstores anymore?
DEPILLIS: There used to be?
NADER: All the time. There were Negro-joke books, Jewish-joke books, Polish-joke books, Italian-joke books. They used ethnic jokes to reduce tension in the 1930s, '40s, '50s. And they'd laugh at each other's jokes and hurl another one. But it still flows through ethnic America, you know. There are hundreds of things that people would like to say. So here's this guy—he doubles down on them, he blows their minds. So that's the first way he got their attention.
Now, Nader's never been focused on so-called "identity" issues—he takes the usual liberal positions on social issues most of the time, but he's also the man who once responded to a question about same-sex marriage by saying he wasn't "interested in gonadal politics."
"Damn girl you fine, wussup with that number though?"
I would consider it derogatory and insensitive and disrespectful - imo, whistling at a female is not violence, it's immature.
First off, whistling at girls is violence against all women of the world
NADER: All the time. There were Negro-joke books, Jewish-joke books, Polish-joke books, Italian-joke books. They used ethnic jokes to reduce tension in the 1930s, '40s, '50s. And they'd laugh at each other's jokes and hurl another one. But it still flows through ethnic America, you know. There are hundreds of things that people would like to say. So here's this guy—he doubles down on them, he blows their minds. So that's the first way he got their attention.
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Sublimecraft
You might be on to something about our public schools and how they tried to boost the self esteem of a new generation. Problem is, that may have backfired and produced children who had too much confidence, unearned confidence in themselves. I'm sure there are studies done and online somewhere but I'm tired so that will be a search for another day.
originally posted by: Swills
Ah yes, racial jokes back those days were totally cool, amirite KKK? I mean Jesus, what is he even talking about? He sounds like a guy who is out of touch with today's youth and basically the modern world.
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Arizonaguy
Well, with arrogance first comes confidence. You can't have one without the other, right? But arrogant, oh yes and that's the problem.
originally posted by: IridiumFlareMadness
originally posted by: Swills
Ah yes, racial jokes back those days were totally cool, amirite KKK? I mean Jesus, what is he even talking about? He sounds like a guy who is out of touch with today's youth and basically the modern world.
Today's youth have nothing to connect to except maybe some wifi. The things he is talking about aren't out dated. He's talking about trying to save some shred of free speech. Do you know who Ralph Nader even is? He is old school "new left"/Green Party. You could learn a few things from him.