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Trump’s racist attacks are creating chaos — and even his own campaign is sick of it

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posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: everyone

Obviously you're just not into being educated. You can keep denying he said these things . Who cares. The rest of us informed people will go on knowing we are correct in this. Rain is dry and night is bright.
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posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: olaru12

According to Trump supporters Trump has never said a single racist thing and absolutely does not cause chaos so these aides must be lying!


According to liberals and the media, EVERYTHING Trump says causes chaos, and is racist.



Are you actually closing your eyes and humming nanananana????

This isn't just Liberals...It's people who have been trying very hard to support him like Paul Ryan, Newt Gingrich et al. It's the actual leader of the GOP having to denounce Donald trump...it isn't just mainstream...it is both people like Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney as well as people like Glenn Beck, and right wing radio hosts...

It is just amazing the crazy retorts that start with "those liberals"...or the "establishment"...those calling trump on his BS span the political spectrum.


But it all starts with liberals, because their opinions are more important and take priority in the media and elsewhere.
Liberals are always first when it comes to "getting the word out"
I'm surprised you didn't know that.... Well, not too surprised.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: everyone

Obviously your just not into being educated. You can keep denying said these things . Who cares. The rest of us informed people will go on knowing we are correct in this. Rain is dry and night is bright.


HUH ??

second line HUH??
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posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: HoldMyBeer
This rant Trump has been on about this "Mexican" judge underscores a very disturbing reality that Americans need to wrap their heads around: Even as simply the GOP presumptive nominee, Trump has no scruples in putting his own interests above those of the American people.

He isn't talking about policies or initiatives or even issues that his beloved "lesser informed voters" care about. No, he is beating the drum of his own personal, financial agenda. He's driving a narrative that benefits his own bank account.

How much louder will that drum beat if he becomes president?


Trump has said little different than this:


Judge Sotomayor has given several speeches about the importance of diversity. But her 2001 remarks at Berkeley, which were published by the Berkeley La Raza Law Journal, went further, asserting that judges’ identities will affect legal outcomes. “Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences,” she said, for jurists who are women and nonwhite, “our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging.”


He is repeating what she told us years ago and now he is the racist?



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: everyone
You never heard those comments because they where never seen spoken.


I "heard" them in a thread here. (Actually read them). I didn't hear Donald say them.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Ignoring Trump's Record of Racism



n his 1991 book Trumped!, the former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, John R. O’Donnell, recalled Trump declaring that “laziness is a trait in blacks,” and exclaiming: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.” Trump acknowledged in a Playboy interview (5/97; cited Huffington Post, 4/29/11), “The stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

She didn't say it would make them biased or that being Mexican makes people unable to do their job. Trump did.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: everyone

Here's more
www.theatlantic.com...


The header of your link:


Donald Trump's Racially Charged Advocacy of the Death Penalty


And the contents which does not include any racially charged remark or suggestion anywhere. The only thing racially charged is the headline claiming that it is.



It was an otherwise unremarkable event when Donald Trump received the endorsement of the New England Police Benevolent Association, a union of police and correctional officers in Massachusetts and New Hampshire, on December 10. As he addressed the crowd in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, Trump restated his support for police officers and for the death penalty for those who kill them. Then he articulated a new proposal to demonstrate that support.


One of the first things I’d do in terms of executive order if I win would be to sign a strong, strong statement that will go out to the country, out to the world, that anybody caught killing a policeman, policewoman, police officer, anybody killing a police officer: death penalty. It’s gonna happen. OK? We can’t let this go.

At least three problems with this idea spring to mind.

First, the U.S. Supreme Court forbade mandatory death sentences in 1976 with its ruling in Woodson v. North Carolina. Central to the Court’s ruling was the justices’ opposition to punishing all murderers alike without regard for the aggravating or mitigating circumstances of each case. But the justices also feared that mandatory death sentences would compel jurors to hand down not-guilty verdicts for otherwise guilty defendants who they did not think deserved to die. Although Justice Clarence Thomas hinted at the possibility of revisiting Woodson in his Glossip v. Gross concurrence in June, the other justices did not seem eager to do so.


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Second, the death penalty is largely administered by the states, not the federal government. Roughly 3,000 inmates currently sit on death row in the United States; only about 60 of them are in the federal system. President Trump would have no lawful power to influence state criminal-justice systems, whether by executive order or any other mechanism at his disposal. Any efforts to the contrary would violate the federal character of the Constitution.

Finally, and most importantly, the president doesn’t have the lawful power to unilaterally impose a criminal punishment on anyone, whether it be a fine, a prison sentence, or death. Presidents can wield the pardoning power to reduce or remove punishments for federal crimes, but they can neither increase nor enact them. The American legal system delegates that responsibility to judges and juries. Infringing on that separation of power through executive order would, at minimum, violate the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments’ guarantees of due process.

Trump has a history of invoking the death penalty without regard for its limitations. After the brutal rape of a white jogger in Central Park in May 1989 received widespread media attention, and amid a rise in crime rates nationwide, Trump took out a full-age ad in four New York City newspapers with the title “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY! BRING BACK THE POLICE!” He did not specifically reference the Central Park jogger attack in the ad, but its timing made the connection inescapable.


Mayor [Ed] Koch has stated that hate and rancor should be removed from our hearts. I do not think so. I want to hate these muggers and murderers. They should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, should be executed for their crimes. They must serve as examples so that others will think long and hard before committing a crime or an act of violence. Yes, Mayor Koch, I want to hate these murderers and I always will. I am not looking to psychoanalyze them or understand them, I am looking to punish them. If the punishment is strong, the attacks on innocent people will stop. I recently watched a newscast trying to explain “the anger in these young men.” I no longer want to understand their anger. I want them to understand our anger. I want them to be afraid.

How can our great society tolerate the continued brutalization of its citizens by crazed misfits? Criminals must be told that their CIVIL LIBERTIES END WHEN AN ATTACK ON OUR SAFETY BEGINS!

But Trump’s desire to make them “understand our anger” through the death penalty could not be lawfully sated. Even if New York had allowed capital punishment at the time—it eventually returned in 1995—and even if Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau—a staunch opponent of the death penalty—had wanted to seek it, none of the perpetrators could have received it.


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When Trump published his full-page ads, police had already arrested five suspects for the crimes, all of whom were young black and Hispanic men between the ages of 14 and 16. Each had been named in connection with unrelated beatings and attacks in the park that night. Of the five teenagers, who would later be known as the Central Park Five, four were 14 or 15 years old. The U.S. Supreme Court had ruled the previous year in Thompson v. Oklahoma that executing a 15-year-old would be cruel and unusual punishment. However, the fifth defendant had been 16 years old at the time of the attack, and the Court had upheld the death penalty for 16- and 17-year-olds in Stanford v. Kentucky in the summer between his arrest and his trial.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:39 PM
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But even if all of the Central Park Five had been old enough to qualify for death sentences, none of them could have been executed for the crime. The Supreme Court had already abolished the death penalty for rape over a decade earlier in the 1977 case Coker v. Georgia. The Court’s opinion, written by Justice Thurgood Marshall, avoided citing the vast racial disparities in death sentences for rape in its reasoning. But the justices, especially Marshall, were aware of those disparities and likely motivated by them. Between 1930 and 1972, only Southern and border states still imposed the death penalty for rape; over 90 percent of those executed for it were black.

All five teenagers were eventually tried, convicted, and sentenced to multiple years in prison for the Central Park rape. Then, years later, it was revealed that none of them had actually committed the crime.


The “park marauders,” the “roving gang,” the “crazed misfits” were fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen years old. The confessions they gave, as children, had been false, spun out under the pressure of hours of police interrogations. (They were, had anyone been ready to acknowledge it at the time, also inconsistent; they also had parents whom they weren’t able to see before their questioning.) The boys were sent to prison. One of them, Kharey Wise, who at sixteen was the oldest and sentenced as an adult, was still there when, eleven years after the rape in the park, he happened to cross paths with a prisoner named Matias Reyes. It occurred to Reyes that it was his fault that Wise was there. He confessed that he, and he alone, had raped and beaten Meili, as he had raped other women over the years. He described to police how he had tied her with her clothes; it had been part of his M.O. in other cases, something that gave credibility to his confession. It moved beyond a doubt when a DNA test match




If anything woman and feminists would be cheering him on after reading that:


Trump has a history of invoking the death penalty without regard for its limitations. After the brutal rape of a white jogger in Central Park in May 1989 received widespread media attention, and amid a rise in crime rates nationwide, Trump took out a full-age ad in four New York City newspapers with the title “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY! BRING BACK THE POLICE!” He did not specifically reference the Central Park jogger attack in the ad, but its timing made the connection inescapable.





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posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Thank you.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

If you can't grasp the point, there's not much use explaining it to you, but I'll try...

Trump is using the politics of race to further his own financial interests. He is using his platform as the presumptive nominee to highlight an (non)issue in which he has a vested interest. The case has no bearing on the election and, ideally according to the Constitution, the election should have no bearing on the case. But with Trump, you never know.


The so-called "race" issue is secondary, IMHO, to his abject greed and narcissism. For Trump, the race issue is simply a means to an end to get what he wants financially.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:44 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: shooterbrody

She didn't say it would make them biased or that being Mexican makes people unable to do their job. Trump did.


English much?
"Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences,
our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging"

HER words no one elses

NOTHING is supposed to make a difference in judgements



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: everyone

Read the whole story. The kids charged in the rape were all black teens. Trump knew this before he placed his ad.
It was later when the kids were exonerated and trump lashed out when they were released and awarded for wrongful imprisonment that he really bomb out by saying these kids don't have an angel past. So. It didn't matter to trump that they were actually innocent. In his eyes they must have done something.
Like I said you will defend this man no matter what. I'm done.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: HoldMyBeer

Yeah and I posted a quote from a sitting SUPREME COURT JUDGE in which she admits the bias Trump pointed out.

Greed or not the point Trump brought is backed up by a quote from a sitting supreme court judge. If he is racist for making the point so is she.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Read much? Where did she say it would make them biased?
Everyone's experience affects their judgement. That does not mean it makes a person biased. Trump said the judge is biased because he's Mexican. .



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: everyone

Obviously you're just not into being educated. You can keep denying he said these things . Who cares. The rest of us informed people will go on knowing we are correct in this. Rain is dry and night is bright.


I am giving you the change to provide proof of your claim. The only one denying anything is you and that is proof. To substantiate your claim with actual evidence outside of your need to simply 'Believe'.

I can write anything about you in a book after having a troubled history with you. That certaintly does not make anything i say about you trustworthy in the least. The opposite of that actually.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:51 PM
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Ryan: Trump Comments Are Textbook Racism



House Speaker Paul Ryan said in a press conference Tuesday that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s recent attack on a federal judge’s Mexican heritage is “sort of the textbook definition of a racist comment.” The Donald has called Judge Gonzalo Curiel “a hater” and questioned his ability to oversee a lawsuit regarding Trump University because of his background. Curiel is from Indiana. Ryan clarified, however, that he continues to endorse the real-estate mogul for president and that he believes Trump is still the best way to achieve the GOP’s policies


Trump's been pretty quiet after all the condemnations from his own party


What will he think up next?
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posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

None of which would stand up in court. It is someone saying somebody said something and the person who supposedly said it say yeah i may have.....

You see, Mr O'Donnell was passed over for a promotion and quit working for Trump. Then he wrote a tell all book.

Here is the article from 91. I am sure that line sold a lot of books but there is no proof it ever happened.

www.nytimes.com...

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posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: HoldMyBeer

Yeah and I posted a quote from a sitting SUPREME COURT JUDGE in which she admits the bias Trump pointed out.

Greed or not the point Trump brought is backed up by a quote from a sitting supreme court judge. If he is racist for making the point so is she.
Trying to justify the filth that come out of his mouth.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: everyone
Didn't I say I was going to ignore you? Yes I did.
What is that annoying buzzing sound????



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,”

“Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see,” she said

Those are her quotes.

Trump is saying the same thing she said.



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