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Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is “Collaborating with Madness”

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posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: AlongCamePaul
The doctor deserves a nobel peace prize for his common sense and integrity.


This doctor McHugh is associated with NARTH. Reparative Therapy.



The National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH), also known as the NARTH Institute, is an organization that offers conversion therapy and other regimens that purport to change the sexual orientation of people with same-sex attraction. NARTH has been described by a Christian ministry group as a ministry partner that is "a multi-disciplinary professional and scientific organization dedicated to the service of persons who experience unwanted homosexual (same-sex) attractions (SSA)".

NARTH often partners with religious groups, such as Jews Offering New Alternatives for Healing, Joel 2:25 International, and Evergreen International in Positive Alternatives to Homosexuality. The NARTH website contains a resource list of theological articles.



en.wikipedia.org...



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posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: Hecate666

Those that don't understand trans people have a right to disagree, who can blame them, they have never been through it and all they see is guys putting up make up [some in a really awful way] and then demand unquestionable acceptance.
Everyone is to change their minds immediately or they feel the wrath of the 'community'.



There is not understanding, thinking it weird, questioning, etc.

Then there is down right Mean, Rude, and Insulting.

How many posters have you seen ask a reasonable, legitimate question?

We are all mutations from the first human. Anyone who thinks they are more "normal" then the next should re-think that.



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: Annee

I think there's been plenty of legitimate questions from both sides of the table and plenty of reason why people speculate and are curious about it and what more information.

I think the "pro trans" community in this thread alone has been more vitriolic and rude in their approach to defending it rather than trying to engage in a serious debate about why and how.

Do you really think on ATS everyone is just going to agree with you?

Not going to happen.



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: onequestion

Ha, someone on one of the other transgender thread just posted "keep the weirdos out of the bathroom." You don't think that's rude?



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Annee

I think there's been plenty of legitimate questions from both sides of the table and plenty of reason why people speculate and are curious about it and what more information.



I do not agree there have been many posters curiously asking Polite questions to learn.



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: Annee

Oh god. I'm so sorry someones feelings got hurt but it's time to grow up and take ownership for the way you feel and stop letting people dictate your thoughts and feelings to you.



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Annee

Oh god. I'm so sorry someones feelings got hurt but it's time to grow up and take ownership for the way you feel and stop letting people dictate your thoughts and feelings to you.


Any feelings you're interjecting on the internet are your own.



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: onequestion

...says someone who just whined that the pro-trans community is vitriolic and rude.



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: onequestion

...says someone who just whined that the pro-trans community is vitriolic and rude.


I know if you disagree its whining.

Very deep thinking.



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 11:43 AM
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Clearly our society falling apart over genitalia is indicative to its original strength. The panic this issue causes is worth approving anything more than the panic.


Any true American would be nuts to talk this long about balls.

Oh wait, but society isn't falling apart. The genocide of these conservative ideals is causing a 40 day flood of salty tears.



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: onequestion

Annee said anti-trans people were not being polite - you said "get over it".

You said the pro-trans people were rude - I say "get over it".



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: onequestion

Ha, someone on one of the other transgender thread just posted "keep the weirdos out of the bathroom." You don't think that's rude?


LOL.

Depends on the weirdo.

There's weird and then there's terminally weird and dangerous.

I wonder what the increased incidence of the terminally weird and dangerous gaining access to bathrooms with vulnerable kids in them is likely to be under the 'new regime' and new PC mantra?



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: TheLaughingGod

Sorry, that was in about 1966.

I've started to research it again since then but got interrupted and never got back to it.

Keywords I'd use . . .

Anthropology + "male/female role identity" + "cultural stability"

Anthropology + "confusion of Male female role identity" + "cultural stability"

Anthropology + "male female role confusion" + "cultural disintegration"

Anthropology + "male female role confusion" + "cultural stress"

Anthropology + "male female role confusion" + "cultural instability"

Anthropology + "chronic male female role confusion" + "cultural instability"

Would love to see what you come up with.

Thanks.



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 12:01 PM
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I really want to participate in this thread but I feel like the fact that the same things are being said over and over again is redundant so ..... I'll keep my thoughts to myself.

*****Side note***** Linking websites who write papers on a DOCTOR who went to medical school just because you don't like what he has to say does not count as discrediting anyone... it's called an opinion piece.

As bad as I would love to eat fast food every day, doctor's say it's not good for you and they are RIGHT. Then again there are bitter people out there who also believe in "Healthism" and "Weightism" (not even joking) who also write papers on how evil doctors are because they tell them things they don't want to hear.

Moral of the story? Fact > Feeling



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: BO XIAN

Sorry but you're just sick. You can judge other sexual preferences and relate that to being a predator, but that doesn't change what a predator is nor does it mean that's legal.

Someone doesn't have to be trans to kidnap your child. That is your responsibility to watch them.

Someone doesn't have to be trans to hurt your child. It is your responsibility to maintain their safety, voting is one of the laziest mediums, America is not a daycare.

Someone doesn't have to be trans to spy and monitor you with cameras in the bathroom. Upskirt websites are proof men disgustingly (straight) film females in the bathroom.

Someone doesn't have to be trans to rape a women in the bathroom, and this being your biggest fear is hypocritical as trans women do get raped in bathrooms and there has never been an instance of a transgender person raping a women in a bathroom ever.

Time and time again I only see how trans women in the bathroom would prevent rape, because they fight back and aren't passive. They call the police and have over a 50% assault rate from police alone. But they still do.


Honestly being against all that just means two things. You're a terrible parent that will hopefully achieve their Darwin award, and you're also mostly scum spiritually.



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: BO XIAN

It's not a new regime. Non-discrimination laws protecting transgender people have been on the books in several states and many cities across the country for many years now. We have the ability to look at statistics in those areas.

What do over 200 federal, state, and local organizations say who specifically advocate for victims of sexual assault and domestic abuse? Read for yourself.


States across the country have introduced harmful legislation or initiatives that seek to repeal non-discrimination protections or restrict transgender people’s access to gender-specific facilities like restrooms. Those who are pushing these proposals have claimed that these proposals are necessary for public safety and to prevent sexual violence against women and children. As rape crisis centers, shelters, and other service providers who work each and every day to meet the needs of all survivors and reduce sexual assault and domestic violence throughout society, we speak from experience and expertise when we state that these claims are false.

Nondiscrimination laws protecting transgender people have existed for a long time. Over 200 municipalities and 18 states have nondiscrimination laws protecting transgender people’s access to facilities consistent with the gender they live every day. In some cases, these protections have been in place for decades. These laws have protected people from discrimination without creating harm. None of those jurisdictions have seen a rise in sexual violence or other public safety issues due to nondiscrimination laws. Assaulting another person in a restroom or changing room remains against the law in every single state. We operate and advocate for rape crisis centers and shelters all over the country, including in cities and states with non-discrimination protections for transgender people. Those protections have not weakened public safety or criminal laws, nor have they compromised their enforcement.


4vawa.org...
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posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: SomeDumbBroad

Moral of the story? Fact > Feeling


Moral of the story? Excuse.



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv




It's not a new regime. Non-discrimination laws protecting transgender people have been on the books in several states and many cities across the country for many years now. We have the ability to look at statistics in those areas.


The issue is not should or shouldn't we discriminate against these people and I highly doubt anyone is even considering that as an option.

The issues are - is it a mental disorder?

Should we be letting kids transition?

Why do trans people commit suicide and transition back to their original sex?

How do we deal with potentially trans children?



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
a reply to: BO XIAN

I'm not being skeptical here - well maybe a little - but do you have a source you could find for that first statement of yours? Or a direction you could point me in?


He did state his source...Anthropology 101...Go take the course! Learn what he knows...



posted on Jun, 6 2016 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: imjack

Do you do any other kind of exercise besides jumping to conclusions?

I did NOT say that, per se, transgender folks would be the pedophiles.

I merely noted that there might be a likely increase in such vulnerabilities due to pedophiles using the issue as a cover.

Sheesh.



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