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Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is “Collaborating with Madness”

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posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 01:53 AM
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edit on 6/8/2016 by Deaf Alien because: (no reason given)




posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 01:53 AM
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originally posted by: Annee
Let's ignore the primary school trans kids - - let them fend for themselves.


You mean like these kids?




posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 01:53 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
There are no hormonal differences in Trans* kids.

You have a cause with no effects.

Therefore, it's not a cause.


That demonstrates how utterly incompetent you are in regards to chemistry. Check this out: even the air is chemistry! You expect that because fluctuations between (JUST) normal estrogen & testosterone are irrelevant, apparently, from the study, that no other exotic chem could play a major role (in apparently anything).

Ofcourse that's only one study.



posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 01:56 AM
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originally posted by: Freija

originally posted by: Annee
Let's ignore the primary school trans kids - - let them fend for themselves.


You mean like these kids?



Are we to surmise that all those kids are transgender? If so, since they all look like girls, therefore, going by your visual data, that there's a major imbalance between boy origin trannies vs. female origin trannies.

How could that be? Genetic, no doubt?



posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 02:01 AM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I suppose that it has been a "depopulation agenda" for thousands of years? I can see it. The naked Greek athletes competing at the olympics.


I make that argument because we're only all having this heated discussion (apparently one of a great many here since Obama's edict) because Obama issued an edict that all of the United Stated of America now make this our top issue of (diversionary) debate.

Referencing one single culture from days past doesnt render my Social Engineering arguments moot. If anything they enhance them. I've already carried on at length about learned gender fashions, gender roles, etc. The Greek's happened to have a transgender era, it made them famous (for being gay, not transgender, no?).



posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 02:01 AM
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So now we're talking about mechanical components or you resorting to slurs?




posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 02:03 AM
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Can people just, live and let live?

Caitlyn Jenner is not going to destroy reality. A child going to the toilet won't impact society in the slightest.

But frankly, these bigotry campaigns by weak minds on here ARE having a negative effect on ATS.
Normally I would present a less emotive contention.. but this time.. only one thing is really required in response to this insanity..

Grow up. The sky is not falling. You lot sound like Helen Lovejoy from "The Simpsons", "Won't somebody pleaaaase think of the children!".

Learn what bias is. Learn how to critically think and for once, realise what is important in life and quit pushing your agenda on here tyvm. If you want to be a jerk, go do it on social media. You're only hurting those you are claiming to protect.

(Please note, I do support transgender, child and adult alike. I can't imagine it to be an easy life, particularly in school. I am just sick of the "anti-everything that is not me" attitude that so many around here have.)
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posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 02:09 AM
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What's most entertaining to me is:

What actually just occurred in the past 3 pages is I've laid out a potentially unprecedented list of examples that Transgenderism may never be ever boiled down to one singular course of debate.

But it's not all fun stuff. Hey, you wanted everybody to obsess over your issues right?

Issues, we've all got them (everyone can agree on that, if they're honest with themselves in the slightest).

Careful what you wish for.



posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 02:13 AM
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originally posted by: LilFox

Grow up. The sky is not falling. You lot sound like Helen Lovejoy from "The Simpsons", "Won't somebody pleaaaase think of the children!".)





posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 02:14 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

What actually just occurred in the past 3 pages is I've laid out a potentially unprecedented list of examples that Transgenderism may never be ever boiled down to one singular course of debate.


That's what you think you've posted?


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posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 02:17 AM
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a reply to: LilFox

The issue I present isn't about there being transgender individuals out there.

Mandating that ALL individuals in the nation from the age of 5 years old now contemplate this: IS PURE RAMMING IT DOWN EVERYBODY'S THROATS.

Plain and simple.

I'm shocked you folks wouldn't want it to be more subtle.

I say embrace your individuality.

I've studied Social Psychology AND Social Science at length. For fun! Minorities always 'lose'. Their only gain short of becoming majority is they gain notions solidarity (an honorable trait) that majorities can not.

Too chez!



posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 02:30 AM
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All of you annoyed by my etc right now: Do declare that you dont have issues; that your annoyance of me doesn't have to do with any of you issues; does your likely transgenderism have anything to your issues; you are transgender because of any of said issues.

Hey I used to restore pinball machines for a living. How many people, what percent, have ever even worked on one? Imagine if in my day I mandated a national policy to enforce all Americans to play a pinball game to merely see if they enjoy playing them or not.

Obama's new mandated national debate (diversion) in not unlike that. Much less actually.


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posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 02:36 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

What actually just occurred in the past 3 pages is I've laid out a potentially unprecedented list of examples that Transgenderism may never be ever boiled down to one singular course of debate.


That's what you think you've posted?



My whole point: Until now I would have never had a clue you were entirely invested in supporting this issue. Were it not for Obama's edict we would never have this discussion.

Hey if you want to wear your obsession on your sleeve: guess what, this is a Conspiracy Forum!

If you want to fit in somewhere go to wear your ilk(s) go.

But Kindergarten?



posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 02:40 AM
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Keep insisting on 1st graders having to make a stance on something like this, I'll never go away.

Likewise, I'll never stop insisting there isnt something very darkly wrong with you.



posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 02:41 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I am not seeing "them" ramming anything down our collective throats. I am seeing doomsayers running around complaining and the media going with it because it sells.

No 5 year old cares. They want to do what feels right, whether that is wearing a dress or eating stuff they find in the gutter.

People like you are shoving this down peoples throats. You say it doesn't affect transgender, bs. What if someone takes what YOU claim to heart and decides it must be true because it suits their biases and proceeds to scream at some poor mother taking her trans daughter to the toilet? What if young trans girls are forced into the toilet with men?

A common argument I hear is that males commit more sex crimes, ergo, women are endangered by trans people going to the toilet. I guess you lot never thought about the trans girls forced into the toilet with grown men, did you? No, you come on here and whinge. Nothing productive, no solutions.. just complaints.

You are making loose, sweeping generalisations and basing conclusions on those. We don't even understand how the brain works fully and you are claiming to know precisely what is happening and what will happen. This kind of crap influences weak minds and you have a responsibility to not act in such an irresponsible manner.



posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 02:47 AM
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a reply to: LilFox

I haven't insisted upon this being some news media agenda. Obama edict'ed that all schools follow a new specific policy, otherwise lose federal funding.

It was issued as an Executive Order. And ALL Executive Orders ARE edicts / mandates.

Enjoy. I hope it was everything "you wished for" (assuming it leaves tiny children out of it).

I dont even have children,but I'm here to defend them. So whats your excuse to target them deliberately (with complex issues involving sexuality)?
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posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 03:16 AM
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So Obama is telling schools to be fair, or not get funded. Sounds fair.

"Everything I wanted", so tell me oh so all knowing fool, how do you know what I want? Are you a mindreader. OHhhh.. it's just sarcasm.

Well clearly you do an issue reading because you can see right there on the screen, I don't live in the US. What I do want is for people like you to be blatantly ignored by society. The alternative would be for everybody to "Live and let live".

These people are not hurting you, yet you support discrimination against them. You don't have to like everyone, but to act in their worst interests and proactively undertake action against them because of it.. that's disgusting.

You made yourself crystal clear, Helen Lovejoy MK 2. Your name is appropriate, but "Champion of solutions", far from it.

Oh, don't twist words around. These laws are there for protection. Claiming they are targeting children in such ways is called "attributing bias". It is like stating condoms support underage sex.

Really. Why can't you just live and let live? Why do you have to target minorities with your hate?

Obama had to do that because fools like you roll out the bias and would support archaic laws that would have trans girls forced into the bathrooms with grown men. Nice to see that you cherry pick what you respond to. Figures.
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posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 05:42 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: LilFox

It was issued as an Executive Order. And ALL Executive Orders ARE edicts / mandates.


I say that this is another blatantly untrue statement.

Link to this Executive Order if you can. If not, we have yet another example of your dishonesty.



posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 05:50 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Gryphon66
There are no hormonal differences in Trans* kids.

You have a cause with no effects.

Therefore, it's not a cause.


That demonstrates how utterly incompetent you are in regards to chemistry. Check this out: even the air is chemistry! You expect that because fluctuations between (JUST) normal estrogen & testosterone are irrelevant, apparently, from the study, that no other exotic chem could play a major role (in apparently anything).

Ofcourse that's only one study.


The only thing here demonstrating incompetency, not only in basic chemistry, but in basic logic, is your posts.

1. How is it that you simply cannot seem to comprehend that there's no effect (increased counter-sex hormones) present in Trans* people and that therefore there is no cause, exotic or otherwise for your claims???

2. I listed one study that demonstrated clearly that fact. You yourself presented citations to HUNDREDS of other studies that demonstrated that your pet idea of "BPA" is not present in sufficient quantities to affect humans in any way.

THESE ARE YOUR OWN REFERENCES THAT PROVED THIS FACT, FROM SEVERAL SOURCES.

As I just pointed out, you seem to be either utterly confused or intentionally dishonest here. If any govenrment action has prompted this current obsession with Trans* issues, it is the ridiculous government overreach present in laws like North Carolina's HB2, and certainly not the letter from the Departments of Education and Justice regarding Title IX.



posted on Jun, 8 2016 @ 06:18 AM
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originally posted by: Annee
How many times must this guy be debunked?

I know many of you have read other threads on transgender.

McHugh has been debunked in everyone that he was brought up (most).

Yet - - you insist on throwing it out there again.


From what I have read debunked is not the word.

Ridiculed
Defamed
Yelled at
Called names



Pretty much the same tactics always used by liberals when someone says something they don't like.




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