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Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is “Collaborating with Madness”

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posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: onequestion

I have already explained that to you.


The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinicallysignificant distress associated with the condition.


Significant distress is also associated with almost falling off a sky scraper. Doesn't make it a mental illness.


But its mental illness that drives them to jump off it in the first place.

Wasn't there some figure earlier about an increased suicide rate, something to do with this discussion?




posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

All that proves is that it isn't psychological - it's neurological.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Not jumping off. Accidentally falling off.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:20 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: kaylaluv

It means it's not open ended meaning distress in anything it means distress in exactly whats mentioned in the DSM in the way that it's mentioned.



That DSM needs to be updated, again. How long has it been? (Same length as some laws on the books - never?)



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:25 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion


Right: HORMONAL.

So now take all the gender bender chems out there, BPA in particular, and how half the food and drink out there is tainted with it, oh noes!

So a boy who for years has been getting indoctrinated by the pro-LBGT agenda on MTV (which has been going on since its inception ala badass rockers turned Hair Metal Glam Bands) et al, has his hormones start going femininal due to over-consumption of BPA...
So the brain starts wiring up weird, boy starts thinking like a girl, then gets stigmatized, which causes DISTRESS... and them Obama goes and insists that kindergartners need to start contemplating what they ought to be.

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posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

After reading that about 6 times, I'm still not sure what you are trying to say.

You can suffer significant stress IN the act of almost falling off a sky scraper. See, I used the word "in" there too.

Yes, having the dysphoria, not understanding exactly what's going on, and having everyone tell you that you are nuts can cause significant stress. It can cause you stress in social situations with friends, it can cause you stress at your place of employment, it can cause stress in other situations where you deal with people who don't understand.

Still doesn't mean the DSM5 is saying that gender dysphoria itself is a mental illness.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:31 PM
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It seems there's potential that a brain adulterated by synthetic gender hormones, which starts rewiring weird, that process alone might just cause distress as well.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Didn't read any information correctly.

The brain imaging scans show they they are dominate in either male or female brain structure which is why the transition or kill themselves.

You would be doing a lot of people a favor admitting that it's a condition of the mind.

Ockam razor

Fixing the brain is easier than fixing the body and probably more effective



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:37 PM
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BPA stands for bisphenol A. BPA is an industrial chemical that has been used to make certain plastics and resins since the 1960s.

BPA is found in polycarbonate plastics and epoxy resins. Polycarbonate plastics are often used in containers that store food and beverages, such as water bottles. They may also be used in other consumer goods.

Epoxy resins are used to coat the inside of metal products, such as food cans, bottle tops and water supply lines. Some dental sealants and composites also may contain BPA.

Some research has shown that BPA can seep into food or beverages from containers that are made with BPA. Exposure to BPA is a concern because of possible health effects of BPA on the brain, behavior and prostate gland of fetuses, infants and children.
www.mayoclinic.org...



One reason people may be concerned about BPA is because human exposure to BPA is widespread. The 2003-2004 National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES III) conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found detectable levels of BPA in 93% of 2517 urine samples from people six years and older. The CDC NHANES data are considered representative of exposures in the United States. Another reason for concern, especially for parents, may be because some animal studies report effects in fetuses and newborns exposed to BPA.
www.niehs.nih.gov...



First synthesized in 1891, bisphenol A came into use as a synthetic estrogen in the 1930s. Later, chemists discovered that, combined with phosgene (used during World War I as a toxic gas) and other compounds, BPA yielded the clear, polycarbonate plastic of shatter-resistant headlights, eyeglass lenses, DVDs and baby bottles.
www.scientificamerican.com...


Okay so fine the transgenderism itself might merely be the symptom, er the side effect from the gender bender ordeal?
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posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:41 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion


Fixing the brain is easier than fixing the body and probably more effective


And just how do we do that?



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:42 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: kaylaluv

Didn't read any information correctly.

The brain imaging scans show they they are dominate in either male or female brain structure which is why the transition or kill themselves.

You would be doing a lot of people a favor admitting that it's a condition of the mind.

Ockam razor

Fixing the brain is easier than fixing the body and probably more effective


Brain structure based on what? Hormones, genetic makeup...it is biology not a condition of the mind, of the brain, yes. The distressed condition comes when there is internal personal conflict and societal bias.



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight

Which can clearly be a side effect of synthetic gender bender hormones (which is in 93% of children urine). Did you not watch the video where they went over how the trans brains are wiring weird ala hormones?



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Which is exactly why they transition and have issues with suicide.

Because they physically transition and realize that wasn't the problem

They should relabel it trans confusion

These people need help not a bunch of idiots catering to whatever they feel they need



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight

No re-read my posts and get educated before spreading anymore disinformation



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: InTheLight

Which can clearly be a side effect of synthetic gender bender hormones (which is in 93% of children urine). Did you not watch the video where they went over how the trans brains are wiring weird ala hormones?


I think I watched a video the other day about a ghost and a Bigfoot holding hands while they climbed aboard their UFO.

Kinda kewl.

More to the point: There are lots of videos made. What does a video prove?



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: InTheLight

Which can clearly be a side effect of synthetic gender bender hormones (which is in 93% of children urine). Did you not watch the video where they went over how the trans brains are wiring weird ala hormones?


No, I read this article...which certainly has multidisciplinary medical professionals, but it is devoid of genetic input.




Spanish investigators—led by psychobiologist Antonio Guillamon of the National Distance Education University in Madrid and neuropsychologist Carme Junqué Plaja of the University of Barcelona—used MRI to examine the brains of 24 female-to-males and 18 male-to-females—both before and after treatment with cross-sex hormones.


www.scientificamerican.com...



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Which is exactly why they transition and have issues with suicide.

Because they physically transition and realize that wasn't the problem

They should relabel it trans confusion

These people need help not a bunch of idiots catering to whatever they feel they need


Where are the stats on people who retransgender after transgendering? I don't rule out mental illness being a factor for some people, but labelling all transgenders mentally ill, is another matter.
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posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I was wondering, does Obama care pays for sex change surgery and like term treatments?

And BTW Dr. Paul R. McHugh is right you can resemble the opposite sex but truly you can never be that sex genetically.

Still, since the transgender movement is taking hold, what used to take years of transitions for those that truly wanted to have their sex change to resemble the opposite is now been rush without care and no tanking into consideration the consequences later on along the line.

No everybody that wants to change their sex now will have the fortitude to endure the painful transition and the sometimes very disastrous results at the end for some.

Changing once sex to resemble the opposite is not like changing your under wear is a lot more complicated than that.

Now even small children has been rushed into this sex change and transgender fad.


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posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

You know what else causes suicidal ideation, attempt and completion in trans populations??

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...

Being out or outed and having people treat you like dirt. But I think everyone is right. The real fix is calling them terrible names, discriminating against them, making laws against them, and perceiving them all as predators

And before you even say it....that last sentence wasn't particularly aimed at you. so don't even

Page 11, 12 and 13 are especially good



posted on Jun, 7 2016 @ 02:56 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight

You expect me to go read the entire thing? If you cant cite the portions that reflect your argument then that makes you a borderline transtroll.

Your response didn't have anything to do with my multiple points and citations related to the position I've brought the past couple few pages.
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