Nobody believes it's possible, that's why it's impossible. Follow my logic? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just pointing out that you're
uttering a self fulfilling prophecy.
cargo posted on 15-1-2005 at 04:20 PM
Heaven forbid people actually excercise that freedom you bled to death in the mud (or fired a few rounds down a range) to secure.
Wow Cargo, nice touch at the end there, well said. I say way above the standard when it comes to short posts on this forum. Short posts like yours
are just fine by me, because they say something that has greater meaning when not surrounded by extraneous points..
unlike what I'm about to say which is similarly venomous, but like a Gaboon viper I have a much greater quantity to donate..In many enticing flavors.
I'm mad now, Americans are reduced to not spending their money to show defiance and anger. I'm gonna filibuster. We're less of a
don't-tread-on-me-snake than we used to be, and more of a tell-me-what-to-think-toddler, yaknow, as a whole country, on average.
I would suggest Americans burn a dollar in protest, but I think that would be a federal rap to advocate the destruction of federal mind control
apparatus. Instead, I'll pose a question: What kind of society puts a higher value on the physical body of its currency, than on the physical well
being of its citizens once in prison?
I'm not going to be intimidated by those military men who want to act like their buddies died 'face down in the muck' for our flag (now made in
Korea) when they obviously died for a paycheck. I won't honour you or anyone else just because you survived a pre-emptive war that you signed up for
as a mercenary! If you Majic, want to charge into the heat of battle with an anonymous enemy, and lay your life down on orders from another man, go
right ahead. I won't mourn for you, and I would not ask you to kill for me lightly, not for money, not for prestige, not for anything. I'll curse
your gullible nature and wish for smarter human beings in the future to re-ignite the flame of inteligence in our kind. What I won't do, is give you
honour, and the power to shout me down in the name of patriotism, because you survived whatever firefight you collect benefits for, whether you
survived through luck or instinct or technology or whatever. You got paid to be there right? They take care of your wife and kids, they feed you,
innoculate you, teach you skills and in exchange you kill people that mess with them. I have a day job too. I sell shoes. Can I have a medal of
courage for showing up every day to my job? NO! That's just what you do. If you have a job, you go do it. Protecting your country is different
than killing foreigners who control resources desired by government affiliated corporations. All those quiet, dirty wars, actions, whatever you want
to call them, perpetrated in the name of my freedom? I don't buy it, so if I were you, I'd quit selling it, and diversify a little with stable,
divend paying objective thought.
Hospital employees don't get a lot of medals, neither do day care workers who keep your kids safe when you abandon them to go kill people overseas,
or caseworkers who stem recidivism tides. Nurses get sick a lot and caseworkers have to deal with legions of scabby, foul mouthed, drug addicted
teens. How about you volunteer to rub some nurse's feet tonight, I'd respect you for that. I wouldn't give you a medal, but I'd applaud your
kindness and selflessness. What do you get for being a mercenary? I dunno, your paycheck I guess, and some good bar stories, maybe a teaspoon of
guilt. Isn't that enough for a loyal company man, a mob-minded federal uniformed hitman? Albeit the benefits aren't what they used to be, what
with all the post-service sickness and reduced payouts for death and dismemberment, but hey..that's a government job for ya', thankless.
The difference between the military and the mercenary corps, is that all the mercenaries are honest about what they do, most soldiers aren't for one
reason or another. You have the right to not join the military. You have the right to leave the military. You have the right to disobey an order
that is unlawful. You have the right to arrest a superior officer for war crimes. Don't expect to explain away your violation of the spirit of our
country's laws with that old line, "I was just following orders." There are still some guys in the military, mainly in special forces, who have
the knowledge of what's going on, and don't approve one bit. Don't speak for them okay, they have voices.
If an army man or a marine wants to come to my house and stand outside, protect me from burglars for twenty or thirty years and bring in the mail,
without raping the locals (like in Japan, Australia, Indonesia, Africa, Europe, South America...) that'd be a really nice thing you could do for your
citizenry, you, soldier you. I'm another guy, just like your CO, and I'm giving you a direct order. So what? It's just one idiot talking here,
see the correlary? What I don't need you to do, is follow illegal orders from power drunk executives with a penchant for trying to legalize
bestiality in Texas while enforcing human on human sodomy laws punishable by jail time in AIDS ridden rape prone prisons. You see, they're not
thinking clearly, or they're malicious to the nth degree, either way not to be trusted.
Y'all who think what we've done is OK; starting wars, crashing the economy and principles of this country with such potential into the ground at
speed like some decrepit albatross, lying about it, killing tens of thousands and arresting thousands more, to substantiate the B.S. and bad policy
that caused all our problems in the first place, y'all are sick puppies. You'll either get better, or the illness will further dement you to the
point where you no longer resemble a human being, and an irate citizen next door will put you down like the mad dog you have become. I hope you fix
your attitude and curb the sickness. We need all the rational, thinking human beings we can muster for the coming age. There's no reason for us to
be mucking about in the Arabian sandbox. The kids over there have been fighting for 5000 years, and they don't want our help with their squabble.
Let them be, recess will be over shortly, and we can all go back to school and better ourselves while they scrap for prestige and milk money.
Seriously, think things through. Why aren't we dead, you and I? Because we weren't in the path of a bullet a few minutes ago, or the target of a
bomb. Why do we have better chances of populating the future with our offspring, you and I? Because we're smart enough to be home at a computer
this very moment instead of running around with guns and letting others do our thinking for us.
I'll hear no blind, evil, bigoted, bottle fed crap about 'freedom' and 'the American way' being in danger from terrorists, but you can keep
speaking it if you want. Freedom is absolute, just as will and choice are absolute in the human animal. Nobody can take a man's freedom if said man
decides he doesn't want to give it up. The American Way of the rich has always been to evade taxes, pillage native people, rape cultures in distant
lands and at home, smoke pot, basically disregard any authority that other nations claimed to have while over their native citizens while screwing its
own citizens for a quick buck or three at every possible turn..have you looked around lately? The American Way is alive and well, infecting most of
America's wealthy and stupid, and in case you don't recognize it as such, the remaining percentage of the people on this landmass see that as a
problem. Don't do me any favors, dying for my freedom, I'd rather you took back your own.
If you think the majority of Americans wanted EITHER of the bloated-rich candidates, if they knew they had a choice, your judgement is severely
affected. Electronic voting machines that leave no record..combined with candidates even a monkey could find a reason to loathe, I can't believe we
even have to debate this. It wouldn't surprise me to find that 52% of America voted for Mickey Mouse. I'll be shouted down in short order, many
will likely reply to this thread with 'Get Over It' or something similar, what you don't realize is that I, and many of my fellow countrymen,
don't give a rat's rear which puppet you think better represents your 'values.' You have no values, only illusions. I see in your eyes the same
moronic obedience exhibited by my dog when he was a puppy, jumping and pawing and yelping over a kernel of bland food, anything, some praise, a thrown
stick. Utter trust on a foundation of half wit, adopted thoughts. My dog grew up and matured and became quite inteligent over the years. The same
can't be said of many people, who remain willing to eat everything offered up until the moment of death. My dog never watched television, he would
look at it when it turned on, turn up his nose or arch an eyebrow, and turn with a huff to walk away somewhere it couldn't disturb him. He ate the
morning paper. He, like me, had very good instinct when it came to people who intended to do harm or harbored an unusual, incriminating burden of
fear. I can't say any of the preceding positive things about partisan weenies too immersed in their own ego and its pathetically impotent struggle
for absolute comfort. My dog would have barked at you all. As a wolf, why don't I herd sheeple? I, like many inteligent life forms, prefer a
policy of non intervention, so as not to interfere with the process of evolution. We are a nation infantilized, oohing and ahhing at the pretty
pictures without noticing the sucking sound or accompanying two-faced government leech beast attached to your back. We could all run and get our
guns, but that would be cheating. What we all should do is endeavor to rid ourselves of our individual leeches, and raise children who are resistant
to the leeches teeth. Screw all those too weak to remove their leeches. Call it survival of the fittest, call it necessity, call it fate, I don't
care. I call it logic. Use whatever moniker you like for the desire to live and breed successfully.
We don't need to rule the globe. We can survive just fine with a little, old fashioned, american ingenuity. The only problem is, there's no profit
in sustainable society. I say to hell with profit, just this once. We don't have to make a habit out if it or anything, after we get our country
running like a well oiled, self sustaining machine, maybe we could go mess up some third world nation already on the brink of complete and total
starvation. We heart-bearing people could rationalize it as a mercy killing, and you gun wielding, government branded psychopaths can break out your
Slayer albums and do some good, old fahioned, American Empire Storm Trooper style wetworks in that impoverished dust-bowl hell-hole filled swarming
with flies. You're welcome to that Sub Saharan Eden when you're done, stay there forever if you want, kill each other, piss into the wind, whatever
you need to do to excorcise the demon. I don't think there's a place for the insane in a sane society, the only problem is, our society is driving
record numbers of people insane.
Anybody who would kill for money when there are well paying jobs available in catering and IT, is deranged.
Anybody who would kill for money out of 'principle' when they could fight fires or drive an ambulance instead, has liberally loose cranial nuts.
Kill for freedom? Who's? Mine you say! That's funny, cause I don't remember hearing any shots in the front yard, I don't recall any donations
in your memory to my bank account that I might live more freely in this capitalist paradise farce. I don't remember you swooping in by helicopter to
break me out of the alien prison. Was I passed out at the party where you stopped the evil sorcerer from imprisoning me in a crystal prison by
heroically taking my place? Nobody can reasonably argue that freedom isn't retained, at all times, by every man and woman. There are always choices
in bad situations, desperate, dangerous, miserable or evil as they may be, there are always choices. We are each responsible for our own destiny, we
don't need you out there killing for some guy who wants to infringe on that, thanks, though, for your apparent concern for my rights. I hope you're
not one of those guys fighting for the rights of the American people when your enemy becomes the American people. That'll be awkward huh? Just a
little? There are a lot of places in the world where there are nothing but bad choices in bad situations, but just because America is not like that
yet doesn't mean it's not always right around the corner if we stray too far from the rational middle.
C'mon you diehard capitalists, surely you must have enough sense to realize you can't make money when your country dies out from under you or runs
away to live on off shore platforms(nudge, nudge, wink, wink). Surely you must realize the tenuous situation the 'powerful' are in, akin to a rich
old man looking nervously out across a plantation stretching many acres, occupied three to a yard with disatisfied, misinformed slaves, who are at the
moment docile, but prone to rebellion. I think that would be referred to as a Damoclean Sword, no?