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What happens when "The Bern" beats Hillary in California?

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posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 08:56 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

So your happy its a fundamentalist hell hole now...

Fair enough tells me everything I need to know about you..




posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

So you support regime change and nation building. Good to know. You say you live in Virginia, would that be Northern VA per chance? that area is full of inflated wealth and egos as a result of people getting rich off the huge military and aid contracts these regime changes and nation building enterprises need.

All these efforts did was destabilize the region further and open up the vacuum for more extreme factions to fill. But sure - let's continue that trend.

At least Trump says he'd make people compensate us for liberating them or policing the world. I'm a non interventionist libertarian, but if we're gonna spend blood and treasure we should at least get something in return.
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posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

I didn't say that. The conflict here is you think it was a bad thing and I think it was a good thing. But I've followed the region since my dad had to travel there in the late sixties early seventies. I was raised in NYC with many friends with citizenship in Israel and the U.S. These issues have been forefront since I was a teenager. I've always been involved in politics before I could even vote I campaigned.
I started with Nixon during his second run.



posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

well then let me ask you a common question I have heard from my liberal friends..(concerning Iraq)

Is libya better off now; compared to what they were before?

If the answer is no... how can you honestly defend what was done to libya?

Gadafi got everything he deserved... the guy was a terrorist for many years... but he also hadnt been involved in that stuff for many years.

eta: and now he is dead and his people suffer..
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posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

Ah haaa you're the one.
The one who votes one party for executive, another for legislature and another for judicial. Lol
Keeps people on their toes in Washington.


Yeah I am a bit of a wild card. I can't blindly follow one side or the other these days. Times and people change. I grew up in the south and was quite far on the right as I was once a racist, conservative, homophobic sack of poo. Then I realized how sh*tty of a person I was so I changed. I tend to lean more left now, but if you touch my guns we will meet in the parking lot after school...lol

I registered as a dem and voted Bernie this time around as I feel he is more inclined to help deal with our problems and not other countries in the interest of keeping the elites pockets full. We didn't have the issues in the middle east until Israel started to fear losing their monopoly on nuclear weapons and the body count (American/non-American) just keeps piling up under the last few administrations to support that monopoly.

I am not a complete idiot though, I know Bernie supported ousting Assad as well, but his interest was in helping the innocents caught in the conflict that Hillary and the Obama administration created for Israel's benefit.



posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: SonOfThor

oh time to hate people with money huh?
I did say I was raised in NY.
I moved to Virginia when I was 34.

See Trump thinks it's possible to bill the world for our presence. It's not. Trump thinks a lot of things that just aren't possible.
He has crazy ideas that won't work in the real w world.
Trump thinks he knows Russia because he ran the Miss Universe pageant from Moscow. This is insane. Just insane.
How do you think the people of say Romania or Czechoslovakia feel when Trump says pull out of NATO while Russia strong arms the Ukraine? Who else is going to keep the Russians out? It's NATOS presence with the strength of the United States that keeps Russia from just marching in and taking the land. Trump gives Putin an A. Trump wants a meeting with Kim jong un. He's confused as to who the good guys are and who the bad guys are.



posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

Have you thought about the libertarian platform? Socially liberal / fiscally conservative...

Sillyolme may think I'm totally against the left because I despise Hillary, buy I find common ground with folks on the left and right.

A big problem is the 2 party system and the polarization it causes (imho)



posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: SonOfThor

No one is getting hot and bothered about a queen. This is politics in the real world not some video game. Some grown ups are interested in the outcome for the sake of the nation.
Some silly low information voters seem to think it's a popularity contest. The future of the world lies in the results. Wake the frock up.



posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: SonOfThor

I don't know about you but I also don't lie. I'm not sure how or even why I should prove my intelligence to you so I won't. I don't need to. I do however have a clip of Trump saying he talks to himself for advice because he has a good brain. Oh and of course he knows more about ISIS than the generals. Trust him. LOL I don't. ,




www.msnbc.com...
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posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Quote me where I said I hate people with money?

So you are advocating sending our troops on multiple deployments without congress going to war? What about letters of marque? What about dividends from oil that places we help militarily going to help fund the VA and military families for example?

You espoused and advocate the status quo when it comes to foreign affairs. How are we going to pay for that? Our VA system is already way understaffed and has more and more patients every day due to these regime changes and nation building conflicts. How are we going to keep paying for all of this?



posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

This just confirms my doubts that people who support hillary got no touch with reality.

I mean, Czechoslovakia? You realize that's not a country anymore, right?

You are talking big words, but actually you've no idea what you talking about. Same as your leader.

Trump wants a meeting with Kim...Brainwashed.

Isn't sad that I know more facts about the potential president of you country, than you do? Plus, you haven't responded to my previous post. Maybe you missed it.
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posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: SonOfThor

You asked if I was from an area that was ,what was your words, bloated with wealth. What does that mean? Sounds like your passing judgement based on my location.
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posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Thanks for the insults, but if anyone needs to wake up here its you. Your position is based on a foreign policy that helped cause the spread of terrorism via blowback. Anytime someone calls you out on it you throw in passive aggressive terms like sweet or dismiss people from the "adult conversation".

As far as intelligence goes, the more ad hominems you throw around the less intelligent your argument seems.



posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: SonOfThor

Insults? What did you take personally?



posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: SonOfThor

Like what you think matters ? Do you think I care if you think I'm intelligent? What have you got to offer me that's should care at all? Please spare me.



posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

I said inflated wealth and egos. I grew up there and the area produces nothing yet takes billions of taxpayers dollars in big defense and aid contracts. Home prices are insanely inflated as a result of the wealth made from these contracts thag rely on an even more bloated federal government. Once you get out of that 95 corridor and into the rest of the country you'll see how much that area is out of touch with the economic reality. It is quite eye opening. The area produces nothing yet takes immensely.



posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: SonOfThor
a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

Have you thought about the libertarian platform? Socially liberal / fiscally conservative...


Maybe, If I absolutely had to have a label stuck on me. I agree with the free will portion, but I'm not totally against some socialist programs. There are numerous programs in place in America that benefit everybody. Some I agree are abused.

The current anti-socialism pitchforkers right now crack me up with their BS reasons for being against socialism when they benefit daily from different programs put in place long before they were born. Taking my money from my pocket and putting it in his pocket??? REALLY??? Nothing is said about the billions of dollars in corporate welfare being funneled to the elites.



posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 10:06 AM
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posted on Jun, 3 2016 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Konduit

He has not been cheated. What's the cheat ? What do you imagine happened?


I guess you conveniently ignored the fact that Hillary started the election with 500+ superdelegates. The DNC is completely rigged.

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posted on Jun, 4 2016 @ 02:05 PM
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That's not rigged. Jesus H Christ. How can people be so naive. That's the way it's always been. No one twisted any arms. Those people know her value and this is them saying something
Give it a rest.
Rigged. Shakes head.




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