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Donald Trump is being investigated for scamming people

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posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 06:58 PM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Domo1

The planet has obviously hit a low frequency field since 2012.

I really still believe the way things have been changing in the last century are related somehow.


Are you saying Trump is a side effect of the Mandela Effect?


Actually it could be the "reverse mandela effect".

I read some scientific proof, but I can't find it all of a sudden.





posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 06:58 PM
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Damn. Riveting thread.



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 07:00 PM
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originally posted by: syrinx high priest
I don't know if its true fraud, but drumpf did claim he handpicked all of the experts, and of course he didn't, and some of them had very sketchy backgrounds

the take away here is he will lie to your face for a buck, and even if you call him on it, he don't give a you know what



You are aware that even most of the left thinks you sound like a moron when you call him drumpf right?



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 07:04 PM
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Are we being invited here by the OP to express free-floating general hatred for Trump...or is there a specific point to this thread?



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 07:05 PM
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No doubt somewhere in drab, robotic Hillaryland, they have
a few looking into Donald...a few free hands that are not being
questioned by the FBI.

My guess is...they still have no clue why no one likes Hillary.
edit on 2-6-2016 by burntheships because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 07:06 PM
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Maybe Bernie will make Trump U tuition free.



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: Domo1

I'm glad you brought that up. That's his name. Its my way of reminding everyone his family felt the need to change the name because they were threatened with deportation for tax evasion and eventually left Germany.

He also lied about it in his biography, claimed it was Swedish.

I was using it before it was cool, btw

There is a pattern here, and it's not a good one.




edit on 2-6-2016 by syrinx high priest because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: UnBreakable

Oh...if this is supposed to be about the Trump U. case...It's all a political setup by Crooked Hillary.

PRESIDING JUDGE BIASED--LA RAZA


Judge Presiding Over Trump University Case Is Member Of La Raza Lawyers Group
United States District Court Judge Gonzalo Curiel, the man presiding over the class-action lawsuit against Trump University, is a member of the La Raza Lawyers of San Diego and oversaw the gift of a law school scholarship to an illegal alien.

dailycaller.com...

PLAINTIFF LAWYERS BIASED--CLINTON SUPPORTERS/DONORS


Trump University Plaintiff Law Firm Paid Clintons $450,000 for Speeches




It comes to light from LawNewz that the law firm Robbins Geller appointed by Judge Gonzalo Curiel to represent a plaintiff in the Trump University class action suits has another connection to Hillary Clinton beyond a $2700 campaign contribution from firm chairman Darren Robbins.

It seems that Robbins Geller “paid the Clintons nearly half a million dollars in less than a year.” Why? Speeches of course.

That’s right. One of the law firms picked by the Judge in the Trump University case — the very Judge Donald Trump accuses by name of anti-Trump bias — awarded this firm the case after — say again after — Hillary and Bill Clinton had been paid a cool $450,000 for two speeches by the firm.

spectator.org...



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 07:15 PM
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originally posted by: syrinx high priest
a reply to: Domo1

I'm glad you brought that up. That's his name.





No it's not. Just because it's his Grandfather's name doesn't make it his. He was born Trump. Shall we call Muhammad Ali Cassius Clay? You know, the name he was born with? Shall we refer to Jon Stewart as Leibowitz? I don't see any consistency in how you choose to refer to people. Do you have ADD?



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy

Advanced Dungeons and Dragons?



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Another Day Dawns



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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Congratulations OP you get my daily participation flag and star.
Not because you presented a reasonable argument to back up your claim while using a reliable source. Hell I would have taken a VOX, SALON, or TYT source for the sake of argument. But you wouldn't be getting the participation flag then because you would actually have to put more effort in your OP than I put in this reply.

You can almost smell the desperation as the Bernie and Hillary camps prepare for the Trump train to roll into their peaceful little safe space. He destroyed a bunch a hell bent nasty corrupt career politicians(Rand Paul excluded). Now a pathological liar and a senile old man with visions of grandeur who are at odds with one another will somehow stop him? Hillary will literally have to steal the election.



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 08:09 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

sorry, wrong larazza



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 08:09 PM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy

did you go through my posts ?

lol



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 08:28 PM
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originally posted by: Domo1
Very low energy thread.
I disagree. The title alone made me quite giddy...I was thinking there was some sort of big olé scandal afoot...but no, it is a thread I'm actually enjoying concerning a political figure.



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

ypdcrime.com...

Which one exactly so I can read the statute?



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

ypdcrime.com...


S 190.60 Scheme to defraud in the second degree.
1. A person is guilty of a scheme to defraud in the second degree when
he engages in a scheme constituting a systematic ongoing course of
conduct with intent to defraud more than one person or to obtain
property from more than one person by false or fraudulent pretenses,
representations or promises, and so obtains property from one or more of
such persons.
2. In any prosecution under this section, it shall be necessary to
prove the identity of at least one person from whom the defendant so
obtained property, but it shall not be necessary to prove the identity
of any other intended victim.
Scheme to defraud in the second degree is a class A misdemeanor.

S 190.65 Scheme to defraud in the first degree.
1. A person is guilty of a scheme to defraud in the first degree when
he or she: (a) engages in a scheme constituting a systematic ongoing
course of conduct with intent to defraud ten or more persons or to
obtain property from ten or more persons by false or fraudulent
pretenses, representations or promises, and so obtains property from one
or more of such persons; or (b) engages in a scheme constituting a
systematic ongoing course of conduct with intent to defraud more than
one person or to obtain property from more than one person by false or
fraudulent pretenses, representations or promises, and so obtains
property with a value in excess of one thousand dollars from one or more
such persons; or (c) engages in a scheme constituting a systematic
ongoing course of conduct with intent to defraud more than one person,
more than one of whom is a vulnerable elderly person as defined in
subdivision three of section 260.30 of this chapter or to obtain
property from more than one person, more than one of whom is a
vulnerable elderly person as defined in subdivision three of section
260.30 of this chapter, by false or fraudulent pretenses,
representations or promises, and so obtains property from one or more
such persons.
2. In any prosecution under this section, it shall be necessary to
prove the identity of at least one person from whom the defendant so
obtained property, but it shall not be necessary to prove the identity
of any other intended victim, provided that in any prosecution under
paragraph (c) of subdivision one of this section, it shall be necessary
to prove the identity of at least one such vulnerable elderly person as
defined in subdivision three of section 260.30 of this chapter.
Scheme to defraud in the first degree is a class E felony.


Would it be the felony charge??

Intent is hard to prove in court especially against a good lawyer.


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posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

No clue. I'm not a lawyer. If the guys in the video don't say anything that can help you find the answer you're looking for I'm not sure what else you can do.

Maybe someone here at ATS can answer it.



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

I'm not a lawyer either but usually state statutes more clearly define intent. It seems like a pretty open ended law, probably only used against people with public defenders, typically a dropped charge with anyone who hires a good lawyer. Proving intent would be very difficult especially in a case where they actually setup and intended to deliver a product on paper.

I'm just pointing out that claiming fraud is easy but actually proving it in court and backing that claim up when its a case in which the DA decided not to prosecute or noone wanted criminal charges.

I'm also curious... how much money did he allegedly make on this deal and where is the proof?
edit on 6/2/2016 by onequestion because: (no reason given)



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