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'Justice for Harambe' petition says more about misanthropy than animal rights.

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posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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Well under the circumstances I think they did the right thing but it does seem like that the zoo could have been able to come up with some sort of a tactic to lure the gorilla away from the child.... like have some man come out into the area wearing some kind of a suit orange jumpsuit or something ..maybe with streamers on it flapping his arms up and down to make the gorilla come towards him of course you would have to have a quick and easy Escape for the crazy bastard in the suit but I think they could have at least got the gorilla away from the child and then shot it with a tranquilizer or somebody could have been in a position to quickly rescue the child while the gorilla was preoccupied with the other distraction




posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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If anyone thinks they should have let this play out, I dare them to go face to face with something ten times stronger than the average man. They couldn't risk that the gorilla changing his mind and then we would have a much different story. The fault here is both the parents and the zoo. The kid should have never been able to get in and of course the parents should have been able to prevent him from going in.



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

Good points, I do still think the parents and zoo hold some fault but you raise very valid points when it comes to that.
I don't think either should face any sort of charges about this all tho.



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 08:20 PM
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I wonder what those petition signers (and members here) would have wanted zoo officials to do if their child wondered off with a gorilla.

Should they have said, well its the parents fault that children wonder off, as they do across all species.. just let the kid die

Wtf.



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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You know every zoo on the planet is having major discussions right now . My $.02 all the people in the area creating havoc should be removed so the beast could have not been confused with the noise, Guns at ready with 1 person to make the fire decision and the handlers coaxed him in. Probably would have dropped the kid but who knows. Bad all the way around and the parents are parents, they at least took the kid to the zoo and the child was a child




posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 08:39 PM
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This is a bad situation we all feel for the Gorilla but the right thing was done.

That Gorilla could break your spine with his finger.


They had to do something before he cracked that kids scull on YouTube


Then we'd be in mass trauma



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: Willtell


This..⤴

Better wording of what the heck I was trying to say earlier.
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posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: mikell

They couldn't risk taking that time tho. That kid was in serious danger, every passing second was one more that the gorilla could end the kids life. Not sure they would have the time to react to anything the gorilla did once he started. They are some thing like ten times as strong as you and me.



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 09:31 PM
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Look we all agree the mothers a dope and should feel responsible but what do they want to do to her?

Put her in a cage with the Gorillas offspring as punishment?

….And watch her splash around on YouTube like a scared rabbit as the Gorillas go after her?

Many sickies would undoubtedly enjoy such sadistic revenge

Indeed some people strangely love animals more than human beings.

This statement makes no sense



We the undersigned actively encourage an investigation of the child's home environment in the interests of protecting the child and his siblings from further incidents of parental negligence that may result in serious bodily harm or even death.Please sign this petition to encourage the Cincinnati Zoo, Hamilton County Child Protection Services, and Cincinnati Police Department hold the parents responsible.


So they go from animal rights specialists to child welfare advocates just over this case

Many people have wisely made the point all problems can’t be solved by scapegoats or even scapegorillas
...pun intended




posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 09:34 PM
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We the undersigned actively encourage an investigation of the child's home environment in the interests of protecting the child and his siblings from further incidents of parental negligence that may result in serious bodily harm or even death.Please sign this petition to encourage the Cincinnati Zoo, Hamilton County Child Protection Services, and Cincinnati Police Department hold the parents responsible.


Wow.

Some people just live to project their own misery unto others.



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: GoShredAK
Have you read that the parents have 5 children, are not married, and the father has a long list of being in and out of jail? Does this sound like responsible parenting? They obviously need more education on parenting responsibly-but would never take their children away-anything is just about better than removing the children letting the government screw them up.
My daughter worked for several years at the Tampa Lowry Park Zoo. They win all kinds of awards despite their crumbling facility and unprofessionalism (1 vet for the entire zoo). Florida is covered with "animal rescues" that are sickening. Animal lover here-hate most zoos (The MN Z00 has great natural environments).



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 10:47 PM
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a reply to: Justso


Regardless, I would not actively petition for their lives to be ruined.

I'll worry about bettering myself and keep other families business outta my mind.
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posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 10:47 PM
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Double post



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posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 10:53 PM
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a reply to: Restricted
At the zoos I have had knowledge of, their security team would have called alert with a code on their walkie-talkies. So the security has protocol for this situation, and when animals get out...



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 10:55 PM
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a reply to: GoShredAK
I wouldn't mind this family being checked out-but a petition-no. And anyway, maybe this is a wakeup call that this family needs more help from their "village."



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 11:09 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye
No; did not work with my brilliant but adhd son. When I went shopping or to the zoo, I had him and his sister wear wristlets attached to me; til they were 9 or ten. I'm not perfect by any means and I did not care about the looks I got from others. I needed to know they were safe. I'm probably a smother mother but my son scared me to death. If you ever had an adhd child, you will understand.



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: Restricted

Do people really believe the kid should have died instead?


Natural. Selection.


Humans got the better of that one too.
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posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 11:58 PM
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Has anyone seen how easy it would be for the kid to get in (I haven't yet)? I initially was pretty harsh on the parents but to me it seems like there should be absolutely no way for a kid to accidentally just pop on in. Also, last time I went to the zoo kids were sort of all over the place, it's sort of a given that it's a safe enough environment that you don't have to hold there hand and watch them every second. Parents standing with kids and looking at animals are going to naturally be somewhat distracted for a few seconds.

The zoo did the right thing. Remember that next time a cop shoots someone with a knife, you can't take the risk that one shot with a taser screws up.

I chatted with my Mom about this a bit tonight and she mentioned seeing a gorilla behavior expert or something that said if they had shot the guy with a tranq the response probably would have been for him to throw the child, apparently that's a natural reaction to scare off a threat, grabbing something and throwing it. I was grocery shopping, but I think that was the gist.

The zoo is completely culpable. You would have to be a complete moron to not make absolutely certain even an unattended child could not sneak into a dangerous animal enclosure. They should probably adult proof that S too.

I guarantee no parent here never lost track of their kid, or kept their kid from doing something stupid/getting hurt. I feel terrible for these parents. Going through all that and then being ridiculed left and right by a bunch of sanctimonious assholes.



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 12:03 AM
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a reply to: Domo1

Cops aren't dealing with something ten times as strong as the average man, sorry don't see the connection there. If the other guy has a gun sure, but the knife comparison is off imo.



posted on Jun, 2 2016 @ 12:13 AM
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a reply to: Morrad

People care about online petitions?

My thoughts :

1) parenting fail

2) zoo fail

3) dead gorilla, kid who could have been hurt or killed. Parents (all parents) and zoo people hopefully have learned some things and will make changes.

4) Spending more than 30 seconds per lifetime on online petitions seems ridiculous to me. Tweezing nostril hairs has a bigger effect on the world.




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