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Does the cult of the New World Order believe in Jesus?

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posted on May, 31 2016 @ 10:18 PM
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Interesting question isn't it? Many of you may have seen me posting about how the cult of the NWO like to invert reality and natural laws in order to prove the superior intelligence of the universe (could be god) is not as great as mans.

Let's look at the symbolism of the trickster otherwise known as Lucifer(the searpent) in the Bible.

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The trickster is an alchemist, a magician, creating realities in the duality of time and illusion.

In mythology, and in the study of folklore and religion, a trickster is a god, goddess, spirit, man, woman, or anthropomorphic animal who plays tricks or otherwise disobeys normal rules and conventional behavior. It is suggested by Hansen (2001) that the term "Trickster" was probably first used in this context by Daniel G. Brinton in 1885.

The trickster deity breaks the rules of the gods or nature, sometimes maliciously (for example, Loki) but usually with ultimately positive effects. Often, the rule-breaking takes the form of tricks (eg. Eris) or thievery. Tricksters can be cunning or foolish or both; they are often very funny even when considered sacred or performing important cultural tasks. In many cultures, (as may be seen in Greek, Norse or Slavic folktales, along with Native American/First Nations lore), the trickster and the culture hero are often combined. To illustrate: Prometheus, in Greek mythology, stole fire from the gods to give it to humans.


In this example you see how the trickster breaks the rules of conventional behavior or normal(natural) rules or law. You'll also notice how the trickster is an alchemist, a magician, creating realities in the duality of time and illusion. And herein lies the dualistic approach of the nature of the rituals we see playing out before us on the national stage. Such as... the two becomes one illusion of the Twin Towers, or the killing of the Jews creates the State of Isreal. Duality... the inversion of reality as a ritual to manifest.

Please stick with me here I'm tired and it's very difficult to breakdown alchemy and magick ritual for the uninitiated.

Gensis 3:6


"For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."


Here we have in the bible mention of the trickster (lucifer), maliciously tricking Adam and Eve into eating the fruit of knowledge which depending on your perspective can be seen as good or bad.



We all know that in many alchemical and pagan traditions gods and goddesses are looked at as archetypal representations of aspects of the self. Tools to be used to understand the subconscious mind and used to bridge the gap between conscious and subconscious manifestations (synthesizing thought into reality).

Ok, ok, ok.. back to the topic at hand. Now we know how to spot the dark magicians behind the scenes, what to look for in world events and the NLP used in the MSM to perpetrate their agenda. Inversion of reality. The trickster. Now we must go to Palestine and the Middle East to dig deeper into this mystery.

Was Jesus Palestinian



“We celebrate the birth of Jesus, a Palestinian messenger of love, justice and peace, which has guided millions from the moment that his message came out from a small grotto in Bethlehem over 2000 years ago,” Abbas said in his annual holiday message. “His message resonates among all of those who are seeking justice and among our people who have been the guardians of the holy sites for generations. It resonates in our prayers for our people in Gaza.”


Here we can see the belief of the Palestinian officials that Jesus was not a Jew but Palestinian. They claim that Palestinian wasn't around back then but...



Oddly enough.. there is (or used to be) a large Christian sect in Palestine.



Now, we have the Jewish sacrifice by the Jewish Hitler.. and suddenly we have the new jewish state in the Middle East and look at current world events.. look at the progression of Isreal on Palestine and the oppression of the Palestinian Christians in the birthplace of Christianity. The actions of the elite on the world stage prove that they believe in the energy of the trickster (lucifer) and use it to manifest this world we live similar to how they are currently doing to us right now culturally and I won't mention how.

Anyway.. this is a really hard subject to put together and I've been trying to think of how to do it for a while. Hopefully some of you can come in and fill the blanks for me because I know I left some info out.

Enjoy.




posted on May, 31 2016 @ 10:40 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

Pertaining to scripture, the world powers are certainly controlled by Satan. If not so, he would not have been able to tempt Jesus with all of the kingdoms of the world. Matthew 4:8,9. And in regard to the NWO believing in Jesus, yes. James 2:19.



posted on May, 31 2016 @ 10:42 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

From what I understand they will tell you they do

I read the instructions on embedding I hope this works




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Major thread man reading now


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I am pretty sure this is the gospel they follow when it comes to Jesus

www.gotquestions.org...



Question: "What is the gospel of inclusion?" Answer: The gospel of inclusion is simply the old heresy of universalism re-packaged and given a new name. Universalism is the belief that all people will eventually be saved and go to heaven. The gospel of inclusion, as taught by Carlton Pearson and others, encompasses several false beliefs: (1) The gospel of inclusion says that the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ paid the price for all of humanity to enjoy eternal life in heaven without any need for repentance. (2) The gospel of inclusion teaches that salvation is unconditional and does not even require faith in Jesus Christ as the payment for mankind’s sin debt. (3) The gospel of inclusion believes that all humanity is destined to life in heaven whether or not they realize it. (4) The gospel of inclusion declares that all humanity will go to heaven regardless of religious affiliation. (5) Lastly, the gospel of inclusion holds that only those who intentionally and consciously reject the grace of God—after having “tasted the fruit” of His grace—will spend eternity separated from God. The gospel of inclusion runs counter to the clear teachings of Jesus and the Bible. In John’s Gospel, Jesus clearly states that the only path to salvation is through Him (John 14:6). God sent Jesus into the world to secure salvation for fallen humanity, but that salvation is only available to those who place their faith in Jesus Christ as God’s payment for their sin (John 3:16). The apostles echo this message (Ephesians 2:8–9; 1 Peter 1:8–9; 1 John 5:13). Faith in Jesus Christ means no longer trying to secure salvation based on works, but rather trusting that what Jesus did was sufficient to secure salvation.



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posted on May, 31 2016 @ 10:49 PM
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There is a rumor that a Secret Society dedicated to Protecting the Bloodline of Jesus is preparing a New World Order in order to have his descendant become the world leader and usher a new age by establishing the 'Kingdom of Heaven' on Earth.



posted on May, 31 2016 @ 11:17 PM
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That makes the NWO sound not all that bad.....
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posted on May, 31 2016 @ 11:18 PM
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Is that like a separate NWO, other than the evil illuminati one were always talking about?
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posted on May, 31 2016 @ 11:27 PM
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No this is not a good thing

It is but it isn't it's not that simple but no they are not good that's why they worship the trickster
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posted on May, 31 2016 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: onequestion

There is a rumor that a Secret Society dedicated to Protecting the Bloodline of Jesus is preparing a New World Order in order to have his descendant become the world leader and usher a new age by establishing the 'Kingdom of Heaven' on Earth.

There isnt one. No Bloodline/ Its a fake one. Satan wasnt in the garden of Eden, it was another being described in Hebrew as having serpent like features. Satan was once known as Lucifer, the Light bearer. He was Cherubim, not Reptillian. He is now known as Satan, the Accuser.
So what is going on now? The scriptures suggest that the end times ( Now IMHO) will be a replay of what was going on n the times of Noah. What was going on then? What pissed God off? They were playing with DNA. They were interbreeding with the human species. They were doing things that God would refuse to forgive. Remember what he said, and he wasnt just speaking of marriage. Let no man draw asunder what I have joined together. He was also refering to DNA, and probably also the nonsence Monsanto is doing.
Im not a religious person, but I have looked into these things in great detail. I wish you all well in your quest for the truth



posted on May, 31 2016 @ 11:33 PM
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Is it not strange that what the serpent was offering was what Adam and Eve already had but lost . They walked with God for petes sake .The ate from the tree of life .To understand the mystery of sin ,one only needs to find Mystery Babylon which is present and moving tptb . ...Trump ,Hitlery or Obama are their sock puppets .We are not allowed to hate them .They can spin what ever we say to say what they want said . Whom they wish to destroy they first vilify ......



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 12:27 AM
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a reply to: GoShredAK

Actually I'll be really cautious if I were you. If it turns out to be real, then I'm pretty sure it would have devolve into a corrupt world theocracy which is worse than a Secular NWO.



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 12:29 AM
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originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: onequestion
There is a rumor that a Secret Society dedicated to Protecting the Bloodline of Jesus is preparing a New World Order in order to have his descendant become the world leader and usher a new age by establishing the 'Kingdom of Heaven' on Earth. There isnt one. No Bloodline/ Its a fake one. Satan wasnt in the garden of Eden, it was another being described in Hebrew as having serpent like features. Satan was once known as Lucifer, the Light bearer. He was Cherubim, not Reptillian. He is now known as Satan, the Accuser.


Let me correct that it reminds me of

Interesting.. I think the person is talking about something like The Da vinci code, The Almemist or Freemasons vs the H. Clinton :p
I heard there are two groups of NWO illuminati keeping power of both sides in check

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posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 01:03 AM
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originally posted by: Svalbard

Pertaining to scripture, the world powers are certainly controlled by Satan. If not so, he would not have been able to tempt Jesus with all of the kingdoms of the world. Matthew 4:8,9. And in regard to the NWO believing in Jesus, yes. James 2:19.

Even the demons believed. And shuddered.



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 01:11 AM
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originally posted by: Svalbard
a reply to: onequestion

Pertaining to scripture, the world powers are certainly controlled by Satan. If not so, he would not have been able to tempt Jesus with all of the kingdoms of the world. Matthew 4:8,9. And in regard to the NWO believing in Jesus, yes. James 2:19.


Interestingly enough...

Paul says the powers of the world were placed there by God...

Perhaps said god and satan are the same entity...

Sounds about right




posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 05:40 AM
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I believe that in the word of Christ through God, could I use it as a parable?, maybe.. Most of us in the western hemisphere are governed by Abrahamic laws, dogmas and philosophy.

The trickster just moves the world in the right direction..



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 07:42 AM
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They do believe in them - Jesus and God - but they also believe they are evil. If we are talking about the Luciferian NWO thing, then the idea is to flip the script. The belief goes that Lucifer has been the good guy all along and the rest of us have been deceived and are worshiping evil. Then you start getting into gnosticism and the mystery religion stuff along with the Luciferianism.

Most of the famous preachers you see on TV are working the more gnostic, mystery religion angle sprinkled in with their teachings. They will give you a lot of good stuff that sounds almost true, but you will notice, especially with Osteen, that there is a lack of real scripture. Instead, you will hear platitudes that sound close to the basic teachings mixed in with a lot of self-centered, self-help style stuff and those little nuggets that walk you away from where you should go and toward the gnostic, mystery religion way.



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 08:28 AM
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originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: Svalbard
a reply to: onequestion

Pertaining to scripture, the world powers are certainly controlled by Satan. If not so, he would not have been able to tempt Jesus with all of the kingdoms of the world. Matthew 4:8,9. And in regard to the NWO believing in Jesus, yes. James 2:19.


Interestingly enough...

Paul says the powers of the world were placed there by God...

Perhaps said god and satan are the same entity...

Sounds about right



That's a bit of skewed reasoning though.

To follow through on your line of thought, then if every world leader is controlled by Satan as all the world powers are ... why then you and I (and everyone else for that matter) must be controlled by Satan too.


Nope. Doesn't sound about right at all.



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 08:31 AM
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Well, to be fair.. I can tempt you with all of the kingdoms of the World too. Doesn't really matter if I can't back it up.

Jesus didn't go for it, we have no way of knowing if Satan was actually bluffing.

Just playing the devil's advocate.



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 09:22 AM
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Also I forgot about this




Obama : 'Help Us Destroy Jesus And Start A New Age Of Liberal Darkness'

CHARLOTTE, NC—With the savage roar of the heathen Democratic horde rising all around him, President Barack Obama delivered an incendiary speech to close his party’s national convention Thursday night, commanding the ultraprogressive minions in attendance to help him “destroy Jesus and usher in a new age of liberal darkness that shall reign o’er the earth for a thousand years.” The thunderous 45-minute address—during which the president argued for a second term so that he could “finally kill Jesus once and for all, as well as all those who worship him”—was well received by the frenzied, wild-eyed audience, whose piercing chants of “Four more years!” and “Slaughter the believers!” echoed throughout the Time Warner Cable Arena. “My fellow Americans and godless infidels, I command you to join me as we cast an endless pall of far-left evil across the hills and valleys of our nation!” Obama bellowed from the stage, as thousands in attendance moaned in compliance and gyrated their hips and groins in a lascivious dance. “Together, as a barbarian people forged by the wicked flames of irreligiosity and united by visions of a liberal dystopia, we will rise up as one to scorch the earth with boundless amorality.” “The streets shall run red with the blood of forced sodomy, performed daily upon every American man, woman, and child!” the commander-in-chief shouted, froth forming around his mouth as the crowd threw hundreds of aborted fetuses onto the stage. “Die, Christians, die!” Slamming his fists on the lectern until his hands began to bleed, Obama proceeded to lay out a “three-point plan of sin and lechery” for his second term. If reelected, the president said, he would begin by banning organized religion entirely—starting with Christianity—and burning all churches to the ground, preferably “with their wretched, Jesus-loving congregants still huddled inside like rats.” As members of the audience violently tugged at their genitals and howled like sex-starved, atheist wolves, Obama stated that his administration would then seek to make free, taxpayer-funded abortions legal at any stage of pregnancy, even up to one full year after birth, in order to supply his newly created “federal stem-cell harvesting plants” with raw materials. In addition, the cackling president vowed to “end traditional marriage as we know it” by passing legislation that would allow only homosexuals to raise children, a longtime Democratic policy goal. “A glorious new age of sinister, unconstrained liberalism is dawning! Oh, dear Satan, I can feel it coursing through my veins at this very moment!” shrieked Obama, ripping off his shirt to reveal an ornate tattoo of a pentagram, with a different homosexual act positioned at each of the star’s five points. “Agnosticism, contempt for human life, and radical sexual experimentation shall rule the day! Any good, virtuous, family-values-oriented Christian Americans who seek to topple our magnificent liberal kingdom of eternal darkness will be powerless to stop us! We will crush them!” Added Obama, “Thank you, may Satan reward you all, and may God tremble in fear at the United States of America!” The president was then handed an unbaptized, orphaned newborn baby drenched in the blood of 666 slaughtered Christians, which he handed over to its new, gleefully squealing homosexual parents.


www.theonion.com... inkPreview:NA:FTA


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posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 09:28 AM
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They do believe in them - Jesus and God - but they also believe they are evil. If we are talking about the Luciferian NWO thing, then the idea is to flip the script. The belief goes that Lucifer has been the good guy all along and the rest of us have been deceived and are worshiping evil. Then you start getting into gnosticism and the mystery religion stuff along with the Luciferianism.


Yes exactly. Inversion of reality, mans intelligence is greater than the ultimate intelligent force that designed the laws that govern the processes of the universe and material world.



posted on Jun, 1 2016 @ 09:41 AM
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The Onion is satire but this is what they were making fun of.



The Democrats moved to strike God totally from their party platform and remove mentions of Jerusalem as capital of Israel. The motion carried in a floor vote. They tried to get it put back in when it was mentioned that this might be politic to the nation at large (still be a largely Christian-identifying nation). The motion was voted down each time, but the floor vote was overruled at which point, the floor booed.

Essentially, God was denied three times and then we elected the standard-bearer of that party.

If you are a prophecy believing person or even believe in omens or signs of any sort, this sent chills down your spine.

The Onion chose to parody it, but there is a grain of truth in there as there is in all satire.



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