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originally posted by: seeker1963
originally posted by: SprocketUK
Makes me wonder when rape stopped being such a bad thing.
I remember when I was a kid, about 14 or so, word got round that some lad at school had raped a girl. Up to that point he was moderately popular.
When he came back from borstal or wherever he'd been a couple of years later none of us had anything to do with him. He was completely cut off from everyone and after one beating too many he left town.
Yet now people toss the word and the threat around as if it's nothing...
Ever get into gaming? "You got raped!", "I so raped that dude!". The word has a whole new slang meaning now. Then you look at what 3rd wave feminism has done to the use of the word "Rape". They have and still do use the term inappropriately to describe actions of men. If a man looks at a feminist wrong, it is rape in their twisted view of their hatred toward men.
Look at the word "racist" for example. Same thing. Using the word maliciously to attack someone for saying something not racist at all, but because of that, the word has done more too harm those legitimately of racist attacks than help them.
"The Boy Who Cried Wolf" story comes to mind.....
originally posted by: elysiumfire
Oh. That's annoying. If I'm wrong, as a writer and a scholar, you can put me right, I'm willing to concede where I am wrong , and adapt my thinking. That is the best way that I can empower you, not over me, but with respect as an equal. I don't need to be emasculated, simply because I am male, to treat a lady with equal respect. To me, your mind will be far more attractive than your gender. If the mind is expressed right, the rest follows under its own natural compunction.
originally posted by: rockintitz
a reply to: Hazardous1408
See when you say things like that you're putting to much power into the words.
And when you do that there will undoubtedly be a response from people that just want to push your buttons.
Btw the joke was about the opposite of rape lol.
Shrug it off and grow a pair.
What we can and should achieve is equality in society, but not at the emasculation of one gender for the emancipation of the other, that hurts society and the feminist's agenda. So-called militant feminists don't want equality in society, they want empowerment over the male in society. That's a very dangerous goal.
originally posted by: EllisColin
We as a society are too thin skined and are unable to withstand any insults or criticisims. Yes, of course its not nice and of course we know he was most likely commenting on her attractiveness. So what? People say mean things all the time.
If your overweight someone who wants to hurt you will call you fat.
If your gay someone who wants to hurt you will call you fag.
If you have a big nose someone will call you a bird.
The only way to stop the volintary use of the language would be to stop the intent, but that would mean people would have to stop wanting to hirt eachother. Realistically that is not going to happen, so your only other option is to censor people and that just causes more ill feelings at the oppression.
Just grow a spine and refuse to flop on your back and wave your feel sorry for me flag. Stand up straight and tall, refuse to give the aggresor what he or she wants. dont let it hurt you and it is no longer a weapon. Let it roll off your back and act like nothing happend. Life is not always easy and life is not always kind, which is why you should be prepared to hear something you dont like and still be able to move on.
I disagree with harassing women, it's something I happen to be averse to as a grown #ing man.
I never said it hurt my feelings.
Can you not debate without low common denominator ad hominem bull#.
Heh. Equality right?
And I wasn't talking about you.
I took the cue from you.
To talk about rape is only acceptable if it's in a context you deem appropriate right?
What happens when someone disagrees with that?
Why not just delete the word from the dictionary and be done with it.
This is what I took issue with. When most of us - American women, "feminists', talk about equality, we mean equality in the work place. Fair treatment, equal pay, equal opportunity for advancement, allowance for time off for childbirth, etc.
...which is shorthand for what you are saying.
What we can and should achieve is equality in society...