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Then, I think you are overdue for being worried. They have done exactly that. Welllll, not that they have done it--but they are in the employ of those who have done it--using them as stooges. Tyson & Nye are merely poster boys of the general rule.
WRONG. The regimes the last 100 years which elevated science above religion have killed many 10's of millions more than any other values orientation--by far. I forget the calculated total . . . 130-150 million?
“Hatred does not cease through hatred at any time. Hatred ceases through love. This is an unalterable law.”
“Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.”
“In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves.”
originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: WhateverYouSay
What you said here underlies the WHOLE POINT of this thread... NO you are WRONG...Neither Evolution being true, global warming being caused by man a reality nor the earth as related to the past being measured by the revolution of the earth around the sun merely thousands of times is necessarily true or false...It HASN'T been meted out to be the case, it HASN'T been proven...
It is the fundamental PROBLEMS with the scientific establishment that has put that erroneous thought out there to so many like your self...
The underlying structure is all fugged up, and that's because of how these theories were developed, modified and bolstered.
It actually started with geology, and then archeology etc...
It was believed the earth was thousands of years old, then when theories were developed and tests designed to extrapolate the truth, then it was a million years old, then when those proved to be wrong, it was millions of years old, then tens of millions, hundreds of millions, billions...This is ALL historically documented... Look at scholastic books from history and scientific papers of the past and you will see it ALL...
You just don't seem to get that these tweaks over time are much more similar to a frog not jumping out of a pot if the water is cool and gradually heated up to a boil than it is to fixing small errors over time.
Going from a couple of hundred thousands years being necessary to BILLIONS of years being necessary is not a small correction, it is a HUGE correction, but because it was done gradually, the thought that the underlying premise that started it all, (erosion characteristics measured over a VERY short time and extrapolated GREATLY), is wrong.
That's the problem with interdisciplinary theorem. They become interconnected to the point that tweaks have to be all encompassing, modifications and introductions of new theories must be situated to bolster the other, even if later shown to be erroneous.
The tweaks become distortions, the data showing error, discarded outliers, and the decries of ABSOLUTE TRUTH, religious dogma that CANNOT be CHALLENGED...
We end up with religion, instead of knowledge... There you go, call them the gnostic scientists. They know because they know, do not question them because you are not among the initiated...
p.s. and btw, I am NOT a young earth creationist...but I don't dismiss their beliefs out of hand and I DO consider how their thoughts might be possible...
Science finds the best answers based on logic, reason, testing, proof, evidence and peer based review.
Religion defines my destiny for me based on inflexible and contradictory fairy tales written hundreds of generations before I was born.
originally posted by: andrewh7
You do realize that you're sending an electronic message to an electronic message board that is simultaneously accessible to people all over the world by virtue of a global communication network? Build a computer using prayer and then we'll talk.
originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: andrewh7
I have asked Holy Spirit to prompt a loved one on the other side of the globe to phone or email me within 24 hours and usually it has happened within 3-7 hours.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
What are the ten commandments of science, may I ask? And is there a creation story
Does science have a messiah?