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is nobody else making the connection that all these developed progressive nations who are prosecuting thought crime or free speech are the same ones that already progressively eviscerated their right to self defense with firearms?? You know that slippery slope we always bring up in 2nd amendment threads and laughed off only to be proven by persecution of free speech in those very same countries. How is noone seeing this?
I have been in some of the most heated gun threads on here in my time, I cannot recall where people threaten to pull a gun unless they were removed for T&C violations before I read them or unless it was a reference to self defense in an outlined scenario, usually related to the OP.
Like, I could go outside right now wrapped in a NAZI flag and hail Hitler all the way to the hwy without any legal consequences if I so wanted. Here on ATS, that is grounds for an edit. In Germany and sometimes Poland and Britain, I would be in jail.
I dont admire Hitler, he is just the easiest example to use.
Spineless you say? You mean - like this:
I bet you are familiar with no more than 1% of the laws in your country.
You're the champ kiddo
Societal implementation In the 1980s and 1990s, more than 350 public universities adopted "speech codes" regulating discriminatory speech by faculty and students. These codes have not fared well in the courts, where they are frequently overturned as violations of the First Amendment.
Those countries also happen to be some of the most restrictive nation states on firearms and self defense. That is the connection, and if we yield our second amendment rights we will also end up in the same boat for free speech.
BTW, I have been here since 2004, I simply changed my name because my old one was too close to my real one.
You dress it up however you need to so things don't look like what they are. Your average American has a pretty good idea of how things work
When someone advises you to be familiar with something, when they themselves are not, we call that hypocrisy. That's what I was responding to.
I am not familiar with the laws in Australia, but I'm assuming there are laws that deal with this type of incident, or the authorities would not have charged him. If you live in a country, it would behoove you to be familiar with its laws. If you are dumb enough to break one of those laws, then you deserve what you get. Don't like the laws? Work through your political representatives to get them changed -- or move to a country whose laws you like better.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
Yep. As I said, if you don't like the law or think it's unfair - work to get it changed. Or leave. Or a 3rd option would be to intentionally break the law, knowing that you will get charged. But don't act shocked when you do get charged.