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D.Trump:it'd "inappropriate" to debate Bernie.(Psst, it's a dream, but I need Hillary to win)

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posted on May, 29 2016 @ 03:16 PM
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The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear Readers,

Before Yesterday Donald Trump was decided to debate Bernie Sanders in a public event which money will be donated to charity. He was pretty enthusiastic with the idea, this is what he said:


“I’d love to debate Bernie. He’s a dream. What we’ll do is raise, for maybe women’s health issues or something, if we can raise $10 million or $15 million for charity,” Trump said at a news conference Thursday in North Dakota.

“I understand the television business very well and [we] would get high ratings and [it] should be in a big arena somewhere. And we could have a lot of fun,” he said, prompting a quick reply from Sanders.
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And this what Bernie Sanders responded in his Twitter:


“I am delighted that @realDonaldTrump has agreed to debate. Let’s do it in the biggest stadium possible,”


Then, Sanders' spokesman, Jeff Weaver, taunted the tough-talking businessman on CNN.


“We’re taking it very seriously,” Weaver said. “We are ready to debate Donald Trump and hope he doesn’t chicken out. We have to see if Donald Trump has the courage to take the stage with Bernie Sanders.”


Please Check:
nypost.com...

Now, this what today Donald Trump Says:


it would be "inappropriate" to share the stage with the loser of the Democratic primary and help networks that have not been generous to charities.


This is want now Bernie Sanders is responding to Trump:


"Well Mr Trump, what are you afraid of?" he said, calling him a "bully".


Please check:

wingatewire.com...

What do you think? what is the cause of this incredible lack of decision, or of word? is it fear or What?

The Thread is open to all who is interested, please remember to reply respecting the rules of decorum in posting of the forum.

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness
edit on 5/29/2016 by The angel of light because: (no reason given)




posted on May, 29 2016 @ 03:21 PM
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It was just Trump running off at the mouth. As soon as he left the stage his advisors jumped him and told him it was a stupid idea, so he had to recant. Why should he debate Sanders right now and bring any negatives to bear on him? What he needs to have happen is Sanders beating up on Hillary some more. If he debated Sanders it would only help Hillary, and he doesn't want that to happen.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 03:27 PM
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I don't think the Sanders camp is in any position to expect the GOP presumptive nominee to humor them.

If Bernie can pull off being the Democrat nominee that is a different story.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

Well, I think two candidates debating in behind the back of a third one will increase the likelihood of people that will decide to don't support the absent one.

Chances are that in that hypothetical debate in between Trump and Sanders soon or later the topic of Clinton Indictment will emerge, and that is potentially harmful for her.

Clinton is a relatively easy opponent to defeat for Trump, she has a profile that does not inspire trust from the people, too much baggage, and why to risk such a piece of bread and butter by giving to Sanders extra publicity?

The Polls are showing that Sanders is everyday increasing his support in California and with the bad atmosphere created by the General Inspector of the State department that is failing H.Clinton terrible and exposing her as a liar, a debate will only give strength to Sanders.

After all it was not the idea neither of Trump nor of Sanders that Clinton would be absent, she decided to do so, in what it is indeed a political mistake,

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 03:33 PM
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Bernie would make light of Trumps ineptitude, and foolish remarks. He's quicker witted, and a hell of a lot better informed. Trump knows his best move is to be called out for his idiotic bully tactic that's backfiring on him.

There's no way in hell Trump would win a debate directly against Bernie and his much brighter advisors know this.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler
It was just Trump running off at the mouth. As soon as he left the stage his advisors jumped him and told him it was a stupid idea, so he had to recant. Why should he debate Sanders right now and bring any negatives to bear on him? What he needs to have happen is Sanders beating up on Hillary some more. If he debated Sanders it would only help Hillary, and he doesn't want that to happen.


Trump knows the only person who wins, by having the debate, is Sanders. He absolutely does not want to aid Sanders, in anyway, in getting the nomination. He knows that he can beat Hillary and he knows that he cannot beat Sanders.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 03:40 PM
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Typical flip flopping Trump. If he becomes President, get used to the "I will/I won't", "I do/I don't", "I am/I'm not", "I can/I can't".



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: spav5

originally posted by: schuyler
It was just Trump running off at the mouth. As soon as he left the stage his advisors jumped him and told him it was a stupid idea, so he had to recant. Why should he debate Sanders right now and bring any negatives to bear on him? What he needs to have happen is Sanders beating up on Hillary some more. If he debated Sanders it would only help Hillary, and he doesn't want that to happen.


Trump knows the only person who wins, by having the debate, is Sanders. He absolutely does not want to aid Sanders, in anyway, in getting the nomination. He knows that he can beat Hillary and he knows that he cannot beat Sanders.


I don't believe that. If Sanders is the nominee he will go down in flames as badly as McGovern did. I do not believe the country wants a Democratic Socialist vowing to raise taxes by trillions of dollars to pay for free stuff for non-contributors.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

Well, it is clear that the taxes perhaps must be raised more urgently to avoid the dramatic fall of dollar due to astronomical public debt of the country that is boosted primarily by all the tax evasion of those 'patriotic' billionaires that have forgotten where did they became rich, that it was this market the one that created their fortunes, but they prefer to have "their" money in Chinese banks or in tax exempt paradises.

If you don't have sense of loyalty to the nation that made you rich why you must be allowed to continue selling here products that are really made elsewhere?

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness


edit on 5/29/2016 by The angel of light because: (no reason given)

edit on 5/29/2016 by The angel of light because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: spav5

originally posted by: schuyler
It was just Trump running off at the mouth. As soon as he left the stage his advisors jumped him and told him it was a stupid idea, so he had to recant. Why should he debate Sanders right now and bring any negatives to bear on him? What he needs to have happen is Sanders beating up on Hillary some more. If he debated Sanders it would only help Hillary, and he doesn't want that to happen.


Trump knows the only person who wins, by having the debate, is Sanders. He absolutely does not want to aid Sanders, in anyway, in getting the nomination. He knows that he can beat Hillary and he knows that he cannot beat Sanders.


I don't believe that. If Sanders is the nominee he will go down in flames as badly as McGovern did. I do not believe the country wants a Democratic Socialist vowing to raise taxes by trillions of dollars to pay for free stuff for non-contributors.


I don't want to believe it either, but I think it could happen. Actually I think it is all but guarenteed to happen within the next 10 years after the economy has crashed and more jobs have been lost to automation.

When there aren't enough jobs for everyone, and we might already be there, most are going to beg the government for help. Honestly when we are at 30 percent unemployment and we will be, unless millions get killed off, I don't know if there is a solution other than socialism.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: spav5

originally posted by: schuyler
It was just Trump running off at the mouth. As soon as he left the stage his advisors jumped him and told him it was a stupid idea, so he had to recant. Why should he debate Sanders right now and bring any negatives to bear on him? What he needs to have happen is Sanders beating up on Hillary some more. If he debated Sanders it would only help Hillary, and he doesn't want that to happen.


Trump knows the only person who wins, by having the debate, is Sanders. He absolutely does not want to aid Sanders, in anyway, in getting the nomination. He knows that he can beat Hillary and he knows that he cannot beat Sanders.


Well, I think trump should have gone through with the debate. Sanders isn't getting the nomination even if Hillary is indicted, Biden would get her delegates I would think.

The debate would have made Hillary look stupid, and chicken for not debating sanders, and if done correctly pointed out how sanders is a lunatic when it comes to his economic policies. Trump is playing it safe which is not what got him the nomination.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
I don't think the Sanders camp is in any position to expect the GOP presumptive nominee to humor them.

If Bernie can pull off being the Democrat nominee that is a different story.


The Sander's camp are not the ones who issued the challenge...so it's rather disingenuous to now say they have no reason to "humor" Bernie and his supporters.

The polls suggest that Bernie would do better against Trump then Hillary would in the general election, so my guess is that's the reason why Trump would prefer to run against her and not risk strengthening Bernie's campaign. I believe a debate between the two men would have been epic and Bernie would have done very well.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: spav5

originally posted by: schuyler
It was just Trump running off at the mouth. As soon as he left the stage his advisors jumped him and told him it was a stupid idea, so he had to recant. Why should he debate Sanders right now and bring any negatives to bear on him? What he needs to have happen is Sanders beating up on Hillary some more. If he debated Sanders it would only help Hillary, and he doesn't want that to happen.


Trump knows the only person who wins, by having the debate, is Sanders. He absolutely does not want to aid Sanders, in anyway, in getting the nomination. He knows that he can beat Hillary and he knows that he cannot beat Sanders.


I don't believe that. If Sanders is the nominee he will go down in flames as badly as McGovern did. I do not believe the country wants a Democratic Socialist vowing to raise taxes by trillions of dollars to pay for free stuff for non-contributors.


May I remind you of who won the last two elections.

I'm not surprised that Trump bailed on the debate with Sanders. Trump is just a tough talking charlatan. What's that say about his supporters?
For conservatives to believe in taking personal responsibility....they sure make a lot of excuses for Trump.
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posted on May, 29 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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How does Bernie only get a win? If he loses the debate Trump soars and Bernie sinks.

According to his supporters, Trump is a man of his word. So he should keep his word and debate Sanders. If not, then Trump supporters are liars and he himself is a coward. Big man can't get around his own advisors. He's already bowing to the system. What a chickensht.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn


I don't think the Sanders camp is in any position to expect the GOP presumptive nominee to humor them.


I think you've go that backwards though. Trump was saying he'd love to debate Sanders, Sanders said he'd be happy to oblige, Trump backed out.

How is that somehow an unreasonable expectation by Sanders?

Unless of course you mean that it's unreasonable for anyone to expect Trump to say something that he actually means?



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: spav5

originally posted by: schuyler
It was just Trump running off at the mouth. As soon as he left the stage his advisors jumped him and told him it was a stupid idea, so he had to recant. Why should he debate Sanders right now and bring any negatives to bear on him? What he needs to have happen is Sanders beating up on Hillary some more. If he debated Sanders it would only help Hillary, and he doesn't want that to happen.


Trump knows the only person who wins, by having the debate, is Sanders. He absolutely does not want to aid Sanders, in anyway, in getting the nomination. He knows that he can beat Hillary and he knows that he cannot beat Sanders.


I don't believe that. If Sanders is the nominee he will go down in flames as badly as McGovern did. I do not believe the country wants a Democratic Socialist vowing to raise taxes by trillions of dollars to pay for free stuff for non-contributors.

I am not sure what you are basing this assumption on..the polls disagree with you.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: spav5

originally posted by: schuyler
It was just Trump running off at the mouth. As soon as he left the stage his advisors jumped him and told him it was a stupid idea, so he had to recant. Why should he debate Sanders right now and bring any negatives to bear on him? What he needs to have happen is Sanders beating up on Hillary some more. If he debated Sanders it would only help Hillary, and he doesn't want that to happen.


Trump knows the only person who wins, by having the debate, is Sanders. He absolutely does not want to aid Sanders, in anyway, in getting the nomination. He knows that he can beat Hillary and he knows that he cannot beat Sanders.


Well, I think trump should have gone through with the debate. Sanders isn't getting the nomination even if Hillary is indicted, Biden would get her delegates I would think.

The debate would have made Hillary look stupid, and chicken for not debating sanders, and if done correctly pointed out how sanders is a lunatic when it comes to his economic policies. Trump is playing it safe which is not what got him the nomination.


I agree that he should have done the debate. Now he is being called out as a chicken(his own tactic) and the likelihood that Sanders would get enough of a gain in pledged delegates, due to the debate, is slim. It will be a contested convention...and it is still likely that the super delegates will put their support of Hillary ahead of the party and by doing so hand the presidency over to Trump.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 06:24 PM
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a reply to: MountainLaurel

You misread. Tactically speaking Sanders needs this. It doesn't matter if I think Sanders is wrong on everything or not. What matters is the position he's in. Donald Trump knows the position he's in. It's a lot easier to beat a criminal than it is to beat someone promising to arm the Free # Army with all the free # they can handle.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

yeah kinda sounds like Obama don't it?

Promises Promises...



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 07:29 PM
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I knew Trump wouldn’t debate Bernie and said so.

It was a pipe dream for Bernie to get a wedge to somehow upend Hillary.

Bernie, like a raving dog jumped at the chance and Trump, the shyster and con man he is just, pulled Bernie’s strings,



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