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Trump tells California 'there is no drought'

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posted on May, 28 2016 @ 11:16 AM
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*shrug* He'll 'repair' what he said later. I won't disagree that California on average is a state prone to drought, but up until recently that didn't matter. Water management and technological innovation turned the majority of that state into a paradise.

Then the liberals broke it.




posted on May, 28 2016 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: neo96



From 2009



California collects and distributes water through large infrastructure projects, including reservoirs and aqueducts. These reservoirs have the potential to hold about 42 million acre-feet of water, enough to submerge all of Iowa in nearly knee-deep water. However, each year one-half of the rain and snow that falls in California is permitted to run off without being managed. Of the water that is managed, nearly one-half is used for environmental purposes, such as providing in-stream flows for fish and to provide habitat for other wildlife.


www.wsj.com...

California's problems are MAN MADE.

Not caused by mother nature.

Trump critics ?

Epic FAIL.


Says it right there. Not only do they only collect half the water they could because like people have pointed out they really want some $65 billion bullet train apparently and over half the water is used for instream flows for fish and other wildlife. I am increasingly impressed by Mr Trump. He knows his stuff. Do any of you have any old relatives or know any back easters that remind you of Trump? People who speak their mind with 0 filter? Not everything he says is PC. But atleast you know what the man is thinking. So before you just write off everything he says. Fact check him. See who lies more Trump or Hillary.
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posted on May, 28 2016 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: LordDraconia

Thank you!
I was just about to look into this for the evidence, because I know I had heard before exactly what Trump was referring to.

There are so many on this thread who jumped to conclusions and called Trump dumb (again), without actually understanding what he was saying, or researching it further.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 11:35 AM
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And some more:


The delta smelt has been at the center of vicious water fights between farmers, fishermen, cities and environmentalists ever since it was listed as a threatened species under the U.S. Endangered Species Act in 1993. It was listed as an endangered under state law in 2010.

The government regularly cuts water exports from the delta to protect the smelt and other threatened fish from being sucked into the giant pumps that send water south.

Scientists and environmentalists say the sensitive fish needs protection because it's a key indicator of the delta's health, but farmers say too much precious water has been wasted on the fish - water that could be used to grow crops and fill reservoirs.



Standing next to the irrigation canal that delivers water from the delta, Jasper said endangered species protections have worsened the agricultural impacts of the drought.

"The delta smelt continues to wrack a lot of havoc on today's farming community," said Jasper, who runs Steward & Jasper Orchards, the Newman, California-based almond company his father co-founded in 1948. "If it became extinct would anybody's lives change? I really don't think so."



www.cbsnews.com...

So, all of the doubters and haters in this thread are just not realizing the truth - that once again Trump is just saying what needs to be said, even if it is not PC or acknowledged by others in government.


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posted on May, 28 2016 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

No, we're pointing out that Trump says that there's no drought in California. The man's an idiot.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Did he say "Yes there is a drought, but it's man-made" or did he say "There is no drought." ?

Because if it was the latter, even if he intended the former, he's pretty dumb due to failed communication.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

California’s drought is a man-made crisis



But as this Watchdog series will show, California’s drought is largely a man-made crisis. It is caused by a series of policies — some from the past, many that are ongoing — which has prioritized environmental demands above the basic provision of water resources to the public. More than half of the state’s water resources simply flow out the San Francisco Bay to the Pacific Ocean.

Even now, in the Sierra foothills state officials empty reservoirs to protect “unimpeded” river flows to benefit small numbers of non-endangered hatchery fish. The California Coastal Commission, the powerful agency with control of development along the shoreline, is holding up a privately planned desalination plant over concerns about its impact on plankton. The environmental-friendly commission want to force the developers to build a pumping system that destroys the economics of the plant.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Anyone with common sense can see that he means that it is not a drought in the traditional sense, meaning lack of water.

The water problems are caused by mismanagement of resources, and that can be fixed.
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posted on May, 28 2016 @ 11:46 AM
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As said: who do you read?

WATCHDOG



Watchdog is run by the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, which itself was launched by the conservative Sam Adams Alliance. These groups are so tied in to all the other major Tea Party power brokers and organizations that it's hard to go through all those links without pulling out a progressive version of Glenn Beck's chalkboard.

According to Source Watch, 95% of the Franklin Center's funding in 2011 came from Donors Trust, a group that Mother Jones has called "the dark-money ATM of the conservative movement" for its record of steering half a billion dollars anonymously from wealthy conservative donors to the poster children of the Tea Party, including Americans for Prosperity, the execrable ALEC, and climate denial groups like Heartland Institute. www.dailykos.com...



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Common sense is a very broad range that shifts meaning drastically based on perspective.

Then why didn't he say that? It's not a long message and is perfectly clear as to its intended meaning.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Note the use of the word 'mostly'. The fact is that the State is still in a drought. Snow pack in the mountains continue to dwindle. The fact is that Trump was pandering to a bunch of farmers who want to continue to use vast amounts of water on crops that need vast amounts of water, like almonds. You can also tell that there's a drought because the aquifers aren't refilling.
By the way your source is Watchdog.org, which is a conservative site and seems, judging by the comments to your link, to be filled with total morons.
Oh and Trump is still an idiot.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: Annee

ok then, look at this:


On Wednesday, February 24, 2016, at 10:00 am in 1324 Longworth House Office
Building, the Water, Power and Oceans Subcommittee will hold an oversight hearing on “The 2016 California Water Supply Outlook During the El Niño and Three Years of Restricted Water
Deliveries.”
...
This hearing will focus on the continuing drought in California, its impacts state
-wide and nationwide and ways Congress can help overcome it.

At a time when the El Niñois providing significant precipitation in California, some
water users may continue to experience water restrictions due to federal rules and
regulations mandating protection of a three -inch fish, the Delta smelt.
...


There is an extensive review in this GOVERNMENT report detailing and investigating how California is using its water resources to protect Delta Smelt while farmers are struggling, despite the fact that the weather patterns have been bringing high levels of precipitation.


naturalresources.house.gov...



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 12:09 PM
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And this?

The "Western Water and American Food Security Act of 2015"


Based on previous legislative efforts that were initially developed on a bipartisan and bicameral basis, the “Western Water and American Food Security Act of 2015” addresses the underlying policy failures that are contributing to increasingly severe drought conditions in communities in California and across the Western United States.



For decades, the California water system was one of the most sophisticated in the world. Complex and contradictory laws, court decisions, and regulations have made it nearly impossible for water to flow and our communities to grow.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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California's Man-Made Drought


The state's water emergency is unfolding thanks to the latest mishandling of the Endangered Species Act. Last December, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service issued what is known as a "biological opinion" imposing water reductions on the San Joaquin Valley and environs to safeguard the federally protected hypomesus transpacificus, a.k.a., the delta smelt. As a result, tens of billions of gallons of water from mountains east and north of Sacramento have been channelled away from farmers and into the ocean, leaving hundreds of thousands of acres of arable land fallow or scorched.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Currently: The House Committee on Natural Resources membership consists of 44 Representatives, 26 Republicans and 18 Democrats

Under this Right Wing controlled House, I will question any information they provide.

And I am not a Left Liberal, but I do not support the "stone wall" behavior of the current House.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol
A certain kind of three inch fish that lives in the sea yet needs fresh water....Hmmmm. Do elaborate Donald.


he meant that they are using the water to keep the rivers full enough for fish, something that has become a problem many places both here in CA and elsewhere. Thus the water ends up in the sea and not useable for humans.

there was no contradiction in what he said weather it is true or not, he is simply saying if they let them drain the rivers dry or lower and endanger the fish they have plenty of water for people.

Human needs versus animal needs is becoming a desperate situation and in almost all cases the animal loses, eventually there will only be humans and zoo animals.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah
California's Man-Made Drought


The state's water emergency is unfolding thanks to the latest mishandling of the Endangered Species Act. Last December, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service issued what is known as a "biological opinion" imposing water reductions on the San Joaquin Valley and environs to safeguard the federally protected hypomesus transpacificus, a.k.a., the delta smelt. As a result, tens of billions of gallons of water from mountains east and north of Sacramento have been channelled away from farmers and into the ocean, leaving hundreds of thousands of acres of arable land fallow or scorched.


This is an update - - dated 2009.

7+ years is a long time for something like this.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Profusion

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump told California voters Friday that he can solve their water crisis, declaring, "There is no drought."

Speaking at a rally in Fresno, Calif., Trump accused state officials of denying water to Central Valley farmers so they can send it out to sea "to protect a certain kind of three-inch fish."

"We're going to solve your water problem. You have a water problem that is so insane. It is so ridiculous where they're taking the water and shoving it out to sea," Trump said at a rally that drew thousands.
Trump tells California 'there is no drought'


"There is no drought"

"You have a water problem that is so insane"

Can someone explain how that's not a contradiction?



That is kinda crazy.

How many states get their water from the Colorado River?

Maybe he wants to dam the river at the border, so Mexico gets no water.


No, he's talking about bull# water waste like this. Along with arbitrary government regulation.

Just in case you were wondering: 800,000 acre feet could fill a theoretical 85 Square Mile reservoir 15 feet deep with fresh water. All because environmentalists want to save a fish in the wild.

That is the BS Trump is talking about. And while I disagree with him saying there is no drought - his point about the fish is very valid. We have this fish in captivity. And while any animal going extinct in the wild is bad - is it really worth wasting fresh water for 3 million families each year in a drought afflicted state to delay the inevitable for a couple more years?



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: Annee

I agree, it is a long time for this to be going on with no resolution.

Note that the Water, Power and Oceans Subcommittee oversight hearing on “The 2016 California Water Supply Outlook During the El Niño and Three Years of Restricted Water Deliveries.” was on February 22, 2016
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And the The "Western Water and American Food Security Act of 2015"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

This has been an ongoing problem for decades, and it makes the water situation continuously worse, even in years with heavy rainfall.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: chuck258

I'm born and raised in CA.

I'm aware of the drought. I'm also aware of CA's commitment to environmental issues.

I can do my own unbiased research.

For one, the Bald Eagle program was so successful they are now off the endangered list.

Trump doesn't give a crap.

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Trump tells people what they want to hear.

Someone has a problem, he claims he can fix it.




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