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Sophia the Goddess and Holy Spirit

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posted on May, 27 2016 @ 03:44 PM
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I am dedicating this thread to the long neglected Goddess of Wisdom, Sophia, who is the Holy Spirit.

The first creation of the Ineffable Aeon, Sophia reigns over the Pleroma with the other Aeons and protects us from the wrath of the Demiurge by sending her Wisdom to those who seek to know about the true God and break free from the Yahwistic prison of belief in an inferior Archon who is Malevolent and the father of lies.

It is Faith in Christ and through Baptism that the fire of Wisdom comes to dwell in us.

This is the Kingdom of God on earth.

Glorious Sophia. We honor you, the Goddess.

Without you there is nothing.

Sophia Achemoth, we send up our praises

You send down your Wisdom

That unlocks the chains of deception

And frees the soul from the dominion of Yaldabaoth.

Here is some scripture featuring Sophia, Christ, the Apostles, Mary Magdalene (who is most prominent among the disciples) and is a great read!

Pistis Sophia

Long live the Goddess!!!
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posted on May, 27 2016 @ 04:28 PM
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Can you point out where Sophia is, or is she just a name to you? If you cannot point her out then I am inclined to believe you do not really know her.

Sophia means "wise" etymologically, "wise" means "to see" etymologically. Do you see her? Or is she just someone/thing you think of?



posted on May, 27 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Sophia means Wisdom in Greek, not wise.

As I said in the OP she reigns over the Pleroma.

I am inclined to think you are unnecessarily bitter and did not read the op, where the answer to your question was.
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posted on May, 27 2016 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: Parazurvan

Sophia means "wisdom personified", someone who is wise is the personification of wisdom, so it means wise.

Sophia is Mother Earth, that which is seen. It is the personification of wisdom because she is what brings wisdom.

I read the OP, I just didn't see where you said exactly what Sophia was in real world terms.



posted on May, 27 2016 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: Parazurvan


I am dedicating this thread to the long neglected Goddess of Wisdom, Sophia, who is the Holy Spirit.

Though I can see the Holy Spirit being the feminine aspect of God, I don't think our resident Christians are going to be too pleased with the idea.



We honor you, the Goddess.
we send up our praises

Easy one the "We" part. I'm thinking your on your own on this one.

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posted on May, 27 2016 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Parazurvan

Sophia means "wisdom personified", someone who is wise is the personification of wisdom, so it means wise.

Sophia is Mother Earth, that which is seen. It is the personification of wisdom because she is what brings wisdom.

I read the OP, I just didn't see where you said exactly what Sophia was in real world terms.



Sophia means Wisdom. You want to dwell on various ways of saying it have fun.

Gaia is Mother earth. A pagan goddess.

She has nothing to with the Sophia of the Nag Hammadi texts.

People who make that connection do so without any basis in scripture.



posted on May, 27 2016 @ 04:47 PM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: Parazurvan


I am dedicating this thread to the long neglected Goddess of Wisdom, Sophia, who is the Holy Spirit.

Though I can see the Holy Spirit being the feminine aspect of God, I don't think our resident Christians are going to be too pleased with the idea.



We honor you, the Goddess.
we send up our praises

Easy one the "We" part. I'm thinking your on your own on this one.



That is cool, they are them and I am me.

I didn't know that the word we was taboo. I don't claim to be speaking for anyone specific. We just means anybody who shares my fondness for the Goddess of Wisdom.

No reason for you too assume that I am speaking for you or anyone. Are you that important that anytime the word we is used it refers to you? I don't even know you.
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posted on May, 27 2016 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: Parazurvan

You do realize that wisdom has its etymological roots in the word wise, right? So either way wisdom is a stem of the root word wise. Wise means to see, we see Mother Earth, the feminine aspect of God and creation that brings wisdom to people.
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posted on May, 27 2016 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Parazurvan

You do realize that wisdom has its etymological roots in the word wise, right? So either way wisdom is a stem of the root word wise. Wise means to see, we see Mother Earth, the feminine aspect of God and creation that brings wisdom to people.


Rather tedious argument, no?


You can see Sophia as whatever you want. I have no problem with that. But to insist that you know better does not make you someone I want to have a discussion with.

If you want to talk about Sophia or the Nag Hammadi scriptures, Pistis Sophia or anything interesting than I am game.



posted on May, 27 2016 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: Parazurvan

I am talking about Sophia, you just don't like the version I am presenting. I never said you had to agree, I was only giving my own understanding.



posted on May, 27 2016 @ 05:15 PM
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I have added a link up top to the List is Sophia if anyone would like to learn about Sophia.

Here is some more scripture featuring Sophia in many texts: Nag Hammadi scriptures



posted on May, 27 2016 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: Parazurvan

Research the Holy Trinisophia. Both trinities must coexist in order for each to exist. I could go into more detail if you ask. All will be reveal(veil)ed and through allegory the truth shall be found.

sacred-texts.com...




posted on May, 27 2016 @ 05:23 PM
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I don't dislike your version.

You came at me like your Sophia is the real Sophia questioning me trying to determine if I really knew who she was.

You came at me hard and I responded appropriately. I literally just said I was fine with you viewing Sophia however you want. Why does that translate to I don't like her?

I invited you to discuss anything interesting also.

Either we could have an intelligent conversation or you can keep trying to start a pissing contest. I will just write comments to myself if you keep doing that.



posted on May, 27 2016 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

I will check it out, cool picture.

It looks like that book in the link is from a Rosie Cross circle. That is a good thing because if anyone kept alive the tradition, albeit sub rosa, it could have been them.

But I had no idea they were even into Sophia that is interesting. I am no dummy, but when I tried reading Rosicrucian literature before it seemed to be impossibly encoded in lingo I didn't get.

I have learned a thing or two since so maybe I will be able to understand it better. I never tried that hard because I had other interests.

But now, I can't see much being more interesting than the mysterious Rosicrucian's.



posted on May, 27 2016 @ 05:39 PM
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I just discovered Philo and he opened my mind to allegorical principles of interpretation. He was a master.

Clement applied his methods too.

The words are the garment and the the body is the real meaning of the text, the Spirit.

And by allegory it is hidden from most.



posted on May, 27 2016 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: Parazurvan

I see where you got that impression, I did come at you in a certain way but not intentionally. I apologize, I should have been more cordial in my response.

Words and names have meaning behind them in any spiritual work of literature. I was only trying to tell you what I think the word/concept Sophia represents in the Gnostic writings.

With age (time on Earth) wisdom is gained through experience. What we experience is what the Earth offers us through her mechanisms, so in my opinion Sophia represents Mother Earth, the giver of wisdom.



posted on May, 27 2016 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

I see her as dwelling in the highest Pleroma under the Ineffable Aeon fully reinstated as if she never left.

Having dwelt here her Spirit remains forever. Having provided salvation with Christ for humanity she has set aright all.

I see the NHL as an act of God. It is exactly why they were hidden, so the message would be preserved. We have probably the most crucial books they had but they must have had so much.

And the church was not fair in dealing with these people.


I also tend to view the Magdalene as the temporary dwelling of Sophia. Magdalene or Magdala means tower and a Miriam is a prophetess or a priestess so she was no minor player in this. Tower Priestess must mean High Priestess.

She was the anointer of Christ with oil and her hair, an obvious ritual of more importance than is given notice too.
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posted on May, 27 2016 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

I wouldn't mind hearing more of what you have to say, since you asked, I just noticed you said that.



posted on May, 27 2016 @ 06:33 PM
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I think the all time greatest of allegorical writing and encoding secret messages in literature was Bacon. I don't have an intimate knowledge of his life but that is the most interesting thing I have heard about him. Shakespeare or not he was very powerful for a man of his profession.
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posted on May, 27 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

We seem to agree that Sophia is the Goddess or giver as I think you put it, of Wisdom.

And I believe Her Spirit will always be here, even if I think she went home. So that also makes her the Goddess of earth, I definitely agree she is also that.

I just thought you were renaming Gaia Sophia because I have seen people do that. Which is fine with me although I don't particularly like it.

But I don't see you doing that anyway since you mentioned the Sophia scriptures from Nag Hammadi, the appropriate textual source to give credit for Sophia's , 'ressurection.'

Pistis Sophia, and the Bruce Codex are worth reading if you like this school of thought. Askew Codex, I think, is another.

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