Audio Shows Katie Couric Documentary Deceptively Edited Interview with Pro-Gun Activists

a reply to: SonOfThor

Matter of fact I'll be on your side of the border in June for a Charity Shoot in Ontario - bringing my AR and pistol with me. So your RCMP and the CFO must believe the same 'propaganda' because they are the ones who issued me a temporary ATT..

a reply to: dukeofjive696969

a reply to: neo96

By all appearances, that is precisely what many of these media sorts, and their governmental mouthpieces, that we are children incapable of taking care of ourselves without supervision.

They are the kindly parents who only want what is best for us. Anyone who thinks differently is inherently bad, or mentally unstable or sick.

...and people lap it up like manna from Heaven. Have we looked at what these people are, many of them?

Lawyers, who serve many masters for pay. Doctors who've never treated a patient in their lives. Many among them are criminals of a sort that I would rather take out to the back forty with a shotgun and a shovel. This is what we're placing our "trust" in, and Couric and her ilk are their willing slave--what does that say about her? Not a lot, I'm thinking.

originally posted by: SonOfThor
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Sheesh I guess you really wanted to make a point there!

I don't know what propaganda you think I "fell for", but I've owned guns for competitions, self defense and hunting for a long, long time.

Matter of fact I'll be on your side of the border in June for a Charity Shoot in Ontario - bringing my AR and pistol with me. So your RCMP and the CFO must believe the same 'propaganda' because they are the ones who issued me a temporary ATT...

Not sure what your point is, but yea those gun grabbers are doing a great job.

Not 1 gun taken away, and 100 million sold, I'm also not against guns, i just like calling people out on the bull#.

Enjoy your trip to canada, hope the weather is good when you visit.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

I find it incredibly ironic how the NRA portrays itself as an organization that is fighting for the preservation of the Second Amendment yet nobody seems to remember that it was barely 45 years ago when the NRA was promoting increased gun control and restrictions on ownership because they were scared out of their wits about the Black Panthers utilizing the Second to legally arm themselves. Hypocrisy knows no bounds in the NRA.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: neo96

By all appearances, that is precisely what many of these media sorts, and their governmental mouthpieces, that we are children incapable of taking care of ourselves without supervision.

They are the kindly parents who only want what is best for us. Anyone who thinks differently is inherently bad, or mentally unstable or sick.

...and people lap it up like manna from Heaven. Have we looked at what these people are, many of them?

Lawyers, who serve many masters for pay. Doctors who've never treated a patient in their lives. Many among them are criminals of a sort that I would rather take out to the back forty with a shotgun and a shovel. This is what we're placing our "trust" in, and Couric and her ilk are their willing slave--what does that say about her? Not a lot, I'm thinking.

Take a look around Seagull! Personal responsibility and those who advocate are often referred to by those of SJW ilk as "White Supremacists" for even suggesting that each individual is responsible for the choices they make in life.
Milo did an event at DePaul University and a black woman stood up against BLM and mentioned she was responsible and worked hard and she was called a "White Supremacist" for saying it!! WTF!!!!

Some folk might be concerned about radical ISLAM but I myself am keeping a close eye on these type of folk who seem to want nothing more than a violent revolution!

a reply to: seagull

By all appearances, that is precisely what many of these media sorts, and their governmental mouthpieces, that we are children incapable of taking care of ourselves without supervision.

I have to agree with this, and the rest of your post.

I grew up ages ago.

I wish they would.

That is what freedom, and independence was suppose to be all about.

Making ones own choices instead of having them made for us.

originally posted by: neo96
Typical anti gunner bull crap. First off the ACTION of harming, or going around shooting another person has been illegal since forever it seems like. I know people like Couric can't read the constitution. I know they just can't comprehend the second when it talked about the peoples rights. I know people like her can't comprehend the amendments that followed.That says people have to be charged with a crime they personally commit, and get their DUE PROCESS, and a crime be proven in courts of law. I know they can't comprehend the 8th that talks about cruel and unusual punishments. People don't forfeit their rights for the rest of their lives. I know they can't comprehend the 9th that practically means the same thing as the second, and I know they can't comprehend the 14th that goes on about how no state shall make or enforce any LAW that abridges the privileges or immunities or deprive ANY person of life,LIBERTY, and property.

Couric can be heard in the interview asking activists from the group, “If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from purchasing a gun?”

Keep it Classy Couric, Keep it classy.

Newsflash Couric felons usually get their firearms out of the trunk of a car in some street ally. Any hoo.

I wonder how Americans ever got along in this country for over close to 200 years without the background check. Cause you see people that was not created until the Clinton administration, and the Brady Handgun 'violence' prevention Act.

You can read that here:

The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (Pub.L. 103–159, 107 Stat. 1536, enacted November 30, 1993), often referred to as the Brady Act and commonly called the Brady Bill,[1][2] is an Act of the United States Congress that mandated federal background checks on firearm purchasers in the United States, and imposed a five-day waiting period on purchases, until the NICS system was implemented in 1998

en.wikipedia.org...

The creation of America 1776.

The creation of liberals making all of us ask the state for permission to practice our RIGHTS. 1998.

222 YEARS.

How EVER did we ever get along without the saviors of the republic keeping us safe?

Well I am glad the anti gunners are so fascist let me tell you.

By law WE have to get it's permission, and only after we pass a given set of rules. Those clowns couldn't even pass. We might be allowed to buy one.

Even though there is ABSOLUTELY no authority for it.

NONE what so ever.

In its 1997 decision in the case, the Supreme Court ruled that the provision of the Brady Act that compelled state and local law enforcement officials to perform the background checks was unconstitutional on 10th amendment grounds

It gets upheld anyway.

The Court determined that this provision violated both the concept of federalism and that of the unitary executive. However, the overall Brady statute was upheld and state and local law enforcement officials remained free to conduct background checks if they so chose.

Even though by law I can't go around shooting someone else. The LAW says I Can't do that.

I have to yield ALL of my rights.

The 2nd,4th,5th,6th,7th,8th,9th,10th, and 14th.

I absolutely LOVE what the anti gunners came up with.

ATF form 4473 By LAW has to be filled out every time someone purchases a firearm.

www.atf.gov...

Pay close attention here.

11 b. Are you under indictment OR information in any court for a felony, or any other crimes, for which the judge COULD imprison you for more than a year

COULD is the operative word. Which means a whole lot of things, and a whole lot of people.

But hey people that's some of that 'common sense' gun control in action. Even though it ALL violates the bill of rights, extending to the 14th.

The 14th is really awesome.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

www.law.cornell.edu...

That means according to the US constitution.

Every single city in the union, Every state in the union is suppose to be a sanctuary city from draconian laws.

Because that bleeping piece of paper is the highest LAW in the land.

Couric YOU FAIL.

Anti gunners YOU FAIL so epically.

And so does gun control since we have had over 80 years of it beginning with FDR in 1934. Since we still have 'gun violence'.

People like Couric want you to ignore the law. In order to push a political agenda.

The state is suppose to protect people.

Not the police.

Not you.

Them.

You know those people that go around arming Mexican Drug Cartels with it's straw buyer programs like Fast and Furious, and other government programs like the Operation Cyclones arming terrorists over in the middle east of yesteryear, and more recently arming a bunch of people over in Syria to over throw their elected government.

But hey NONE of all that matters.

Our rights to some people are really meaningless.

In the sad United States of Dysfunction called America. Where a gun free zone shouldn't even exist.

If we truly thought of our selves as a constitutional Republic.

None of the above would exist, But here we are.

Caught between a rock and a hard case.

People KNOW your RIGHTS.

They deceptively altered the trailer, we have no idea what's in the documentary it's self.

a reply to: neo96

You need the 'dots connected'. I guess ya missed the hostile environment over decades. Driving companies out of business, killing jobs with REGULATIONS.

So no, you cannot connect the dots?

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: MystikMushroom

I find it incredibly ironic how the NRA portrays itself as an organization that is fighting for the preservation of the Second Amendment yet nobody seems to remember that it was barely 45 years ago when the NRA was promoting increased gun control and restrictions on ownership because they were scared out of their wits about the Black Panthers utilizing the Second to legally arm themselves. Hypocrisy knows no bounds in the NRA.

Yeah well hypocrisy indeed knows no bounds.

Since gun control was born from the LEFT wing, and their racist attitude towards 'blacks'.

Same thing was done to the native Americans.

The greatest atrocities that have been done in this country have been done to those who couldn't shoot back.

originally posted by: neo96

The greatest atrocities that have been done in this country have been done to those who couldn't shoot back.

In any country. Throughout history.

Either "these people" are dangerously ignorant of that fact, or they know full well what they're doing, and the horrors that disarmament can and will lead to (because it always has)...

...and actually condone those horrors pursuing the "greater good" of socialist utopia.

I doubt they are that ignorant of history. Which is chilling.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: neo96

You need the 'dots connected'. I guess ya missed the hostile environment over decades. Driving companies out of business, killing jobs with REGULATIONS.

So no, you cannot connect the dots?

You cannot be this dense. Gun sales are up because Obama and his gun control minions have created an atmosphere that leads people to believe that firearms of their choosing would no longer be available.

I am not an NRA member and don't presently own a firearm. I have given thought to purchasing a few ARs and handguns out of fear I may not have that option in the future.

In other words, get 'em while you can.

a reply to: neo96

It's ironic that you would bring up voting. You're terribly concerned about a convicted felon's right to own firearms but when it comes to evidence of an administration knowingly using the War on Drugs as a tool to create disenfranchised felons for the political gain of REPUBLICANS, out come the excuses.

a reply to: seeker1963

This I know.

I've been called a bigot many times for advocating personal responsibility in our lives. I'm not quite sure what about that makes me a bigot, but so be it.

That level of brainwashing may be incurable.

I am a gun owner. Just how many is a not so secret secret. Not one of them has ever claimed a human life, God forbid they ever should.

I'm an independant thinker. On many an issue I disagree with folks like neo, and seeker1963. But on this one? I'm in lockstep with 'em 'til what ever end comes.

Isn't that what we're supposed to be? Independent thinkers? Patrick Henry thought so. So, too, did Benjamin Franklin, and a host of others. We fought a civil war over that...the rights of the states and the citizens in them to chart their own course, for better or for worse...it's their/our lives, not the govt, and certainly not Ms. Couric's.

I'm not quite the hill billy/redneck some would accuse me of being, though it's not the insult many would have me believe...but I'll side with them on many, if not most, issues pertaining to my life, and proudly so. By this time next year, or shortly thereafter, I'll be living in the back hills of Tennessee on my own little plot of land, redneck hillbilly by nature, if not by birth. Couric and her ilk can have their little utopian theatre, just leave me out of it.

But they won't. As long as any of us have a notion contrary to what they believe should be...? We, and you, are the enemy.

So, I'll continue speaking my mind. Clutching my rifles, my pickup (it's a Scion, actually), and the latest issue of Guns and Ammo. Wanting nothing but to be left alone to live my life peacefully, but willing to use any legal means to protect myself.

a reply to: neo96

Wow great find! Thanks for posting this. I love seeing the MSM getting busted. There are no ethics left anymore when it comes the media, they have free reign to twist and contort anything they do to get the results they are looking for. Something you said really resonated with me, and it shows me that you "get it."

The creation of liberals making all of us ask the state for permission to practice our RIGHTS. 1998.

Why are so many people on both sides of the aisle so adamant about asking Daddy government for permission? Here is a short list of rights and behaviors that we currently have to get permissions for. Ask yourself, "why do we need permission from the government to do this?" Why do we allow the government to encroach on our daily life, and we do we pay them MORE of our hard earned money to do things that they have no business being involved in?

1. Marriage - why is it their business?
2. Divorce
3. Driving
4. Crossing state lines (agricultural checks)
5. Operating a Church
6. Camping
The list goes on and on. Why do we allow ourselves to be controlled to such high levels? We keep agreeing to this nonsense. The government does not keep us safe. They do not make our lives easier or better, and yet we continue to let them encroach on every single facet of our daily lives.

Gun ownership is no different. We should not have to ask permission to own and operate a firearm. It is absolutely no one's business what we own and what we choose to enjoy in life.

If you are not infringing on someone else's personal rights, then you need to be able to be left alone, PERIOD.

I am sick of everyone looking to government for everything, to fix every problem, to be involved in everything we do. This ESPECIALLY applies to our current political climate. Everyone on both sides agrees that the government is corrupt and out of control, yet we keep wanting to give it more power, more control, and more of our money.

HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

a reply to: theantediluvian

Try again.

My concern is the FACT that people like Couric and company are trying to turn people that don't do anything.

INTO criminals.

And they have succeeded.

Gulity until proven innocent so goes the background check.

People have to PROVE their worth to the state BEFORE they can practice their RIGHT.

I am sure someone can't connect that dot either.

a reply to: Edumakated

You cannot be this dense. Gun sales are up because Obama and his gun control minions have created an atmosphere that leads people to believe that firearms of their choosing would no longer be available.

Yea wow. What are you even going on about? Perhaps before you jump to insult me, you might at least do me the courtesy of spending a brief moment of your time to read and comprehend what you're commenting on.

This is what Neo said:

FYI. There are only TWO gun manufactures left that are publicly traded. Smith and Wesson, and Ruger. TWO. Flawless victory anti gunners FLAWLESS. The rest are either private, or foreign. Like big names of Glock, Beretta, HK,and FN Herstal. That have Us manufacturing plants. The biggest winner in the 'weapons manufacturing' business ? The STATE, and LEO. To the tune of billions per year.

I simply asked him if he could connect the dots:

Could you connect those dots? Firearm sales are constantly breaking records so what exactly did the state do at the urging of "anti-gunners" that resulted in less publicly traded American firearms manufacturers?

He could not. In your haste to insult me, you have answered a question that nobody asked and you accuse me of being "dense?" (or I guess disingenuous because I "can't be that dense?") Perhaps you'd like to take a stab at it?

What exactly do "anti-gunners" have to do with a presumed shift from American owned firearms manufacturing to foreign firearms manufacturing? Are there laws or have there been laws that were advocated by "anti-gunners" that favor/favored foreign manufacturers or foreign ownership of domestic firearm manufacturing plants?

I am GLAD i actually live in an enlightened state such as Indiana.

www.acs-law.com...

Where a persons past can no longer be used against them ad infinitum.

a reply to: neo96

From your OP:

I know they can't comprehend the 8th that talks about cruel and unusual punishments. People don't forfeit their rights for the rest of their lives.

Are you now trying to say that those weren't statements pertaining to felons losing the right to own firearms?

EDIT:

Nope, clearly I didn't misunderstand as you just posted this:

I am GLAD i actually live in an enlightened state such as Indiana. www.acs-law.com... Where a persons past can no longer be used against them ad infinitum.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: neo96

From your OP:

I know they can't comprehend the 8th that talks about cruel and unusual punishments. People don't forfeit their rights for the rest of their lives.

Are you now trying to say that those weren't statements pertaining to felons losing the right to own firearms?

Yeah well the only RIGHT as far as 'liberals' and felons go is their right to vote.

NOTHING else matters to them.

Hell would freeze over before their other constitutional RIGHT would be restored.

Remember ATF from 4473 ?

REMEMBER THAT ?