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Hateful Christians (not you nice Christians)

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posted on May, 27 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: Parazurvan

originally posted by: GemmyMcGemJew


I will address this. A Seraphim is an angel. And also a fiery serpent. Seraphim means, fiery or blazing serpent. Judaism has had that before Christianity.


St. Francis of Assissi is called the Seraphic father because he saw a Serpent angel called a Seraphim, a Christian belief from Judaism, on a cross.

So Seraphim are a class of angels in Christianity too. Ophanim, Cherubim, are two other kinds of Angels.


Again I am provided with evidence. This time ignorance is the issue. A Christian who doesn't know what a Seraphim is used it against me not knowing that they are a part of Christianity.

Had she studied more she would not have made that mistake and saved herself from making obvious her contempt.

Why do you not know what a Seraph is?

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posted on May, 27 2016 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: GemmyMcGemJew
a reply to: Parazurvan
Gonna ignore me then respond twice. You are full of surprises sir. Now I hear your into reptilian fiery angels. Must be really strong stuff.

Oh and yer.....tolerance. you supposedly a Christian, use it. Helps with the self righteousness.



You do realize that a fiery serpent angel is called a Seraph plural Seraphim right?

And that it has existed in Judaism and Christianity for...ever?

St Francis of Assissi had a vision of a crucified serpent, a Seraph, and is called the Seraphic father.


So your own lack of knowledge has given me more evidence because you tried to use something against me that is an orthodox belief!

Because you didn't know!

Haaah!! That backfired on you.


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posted on May, 27 2016 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: Parazurvan

OK have to ask what percent are you christian. Honest question, just for clarity reasons...10%...25%...50%. Please not a copy and paste response. Simply because you display none of the virtues attributed to christianity.

You are hostile to criticism ( I would assume your a child but children do not attempt to research subjects in this depth), you mock and slander differing perspectives, have no tolerance mechanisms whatsoever, displayed no sense of love, only to those who agree with you/dry hump your leg, deflect attention away from historical crimes of islam onto christianity ( obvious both did it, child type response). I honestly would like to know and I'm almost certain other people would like to know.

You reject the full teachings of the bible yet judge others for questioning it. It really is baffling, but hilarious at the same time, like a murderer lying with all the evidence on the table in front of him. Persistent I will give you that.



posted on May, 27 2016 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: GemmyMcGemJew
a reply to: Parazurvan

OK have to ask what percent are you christian. Honest question, just for clarity reasons...10%...25%...50%. Please not a copy and paste response. Simply because you display none of the virtues attributed to christianity.

You are hostile to criticism ( I would assume your a child but children do not attempt to research subjects in this depth), you mock and slander differing perspectives, have no tolerance mechanisms whatsoever, displayed no sense of love, only to those who agree with you/dry hump your leg, deflect attention away from historical crimes of islam onto christianity ( obvious both did it, child type response). I honestly would like to know and I'm almost certain other people would like to know.

You reject the full teachings of the bible yet judge others for questioning it. It really is baffling, but hilarious at the same time, like a murderer lying with all the evidence on the table in front of him. Persistent I will give you that.



You assume too much and ask silly questions.

It's going to seem like I'm going back to ignoring you again.

But this time it is because you have shown you only want to be argumentative and are mad because you insulted me based on an orthodox belief that you didn't know about.


(post by GemmyMcGemJew removed for a manners violation)

posted on May, 27 2016 @ 04:33 PM
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posted on May, 27 2016 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: Parazurvan

We all fall short.






posted on May, 27 2016 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: Tarzan the apeman.
a reply to: Parazurvan

We all fall short.





I can't argue with you there.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 12:39 AM
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a reply to: Parazurvan
Sure, but seeing your comment and SelectStart's comment I suspect it doesn't need all that much elaboration anymore. It's basically general advice (or a useful reminder) and it applies to everyone (including me, especially James 3:2, which basically reminds us that we all make mistakes and nobody is perfect; something someone else in this thread also mentioned before my comment).

I also brought it up because you said something about pride at the end of your OP and I wanted to give you a few more details how pride can be involved in how people converse about things they don't agree on (before the step of figuring out who is right or what the right answer is to a specific question). The first step in learning anything is swallowing your pride when someone points out to you that you are incorrect about something (the "you" in that sentence is a general 'you' again, for everyone who may read this). Perhaps I can add another text to elaborate further and bold the part that is the hardest to do (especially when you think someone elses views are completely irrational and you have difficulty in fathoming how someone could even come to such conclusions; a real issue for me as well except the part where I often do understand how someone could reach certain conclusions, but I have more of an issue with some people's stubborness in dealing with the facts, or even acknowledging the existence of that which is factual/certain/conclusive/absolute/true/definitive/correct, without error). 1 Peter 3:15:

But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have, but doing so with a mild temper and deep respect.

Useful advice for anyone who wants to call himself a Christian or follower of Christ (then again, also useful for everyone else, but the advice should be highly valued by Christians; and because it's so hard to do or not overlook, constantly reminding yourself and possibly others is a good thing for your mind, see my sig). Also see the bolded part in this definition for...
EDUCATION

The imparting or acquisition of knowledge and skill. Education is accomplished through (1) explanation and repetition; (2) discipline, training administered in love (Pr 1:7; Heb 12:5, 6); (3) personal observation (Ps 19:1-3; Ec 1:12-14); (4) reproof and rebuke (Ps 141:5; Pr 9:8; 17:10).

Notice Ps 141:5 being used again above? If you follow the link you can more quickly click the links to those other bible verses and see what other useful advice they contain in relation to both learning and trying to tell something you think another person has wrong views about or knows nothing about (teaching). But keep my sig. in mind when it comes to repetition, which can be a good thing or a bad thing for your mind depending on what thinking and educational processes are being repeated (if you haven't read it yet, do so before reading the rest of my comment). I like Proverbs 1:7:

The fear of* Jehovah is the beginning of knowledge. (* = Or “reverence for.”)

Only fools despise wisdom and discipline.


Of course, some bible translation will say "the LORD" there where it says "Jehovah", closing that door to knowledge for you.
Pay close attention to what's said at 6:50 in the video below:

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posted on May, 28 2016 @ 12:41 AM
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a reply to: whereislogic

I gotta be honest you lost me.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 12:58 AM
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a reply to: Parazurvan
Perhaps too much elaboration? Or I drifted away too much from the topics in my initial comment.

You said something about "truth hurts" in response to my comment, I would suggest that pride is involved with that feeling as well, and a certain unwillingness to hear it when it conflicts with a person's personal views/beliefs. That latter feeling being strengthened by repetition of those views/beliefs and accompanying arguments and ways of thinking.

But perhaps the more I elaborate or move on the related subjects, the harder it gets to follow what I'm talking about. So I'll leave it at that.

Oh, there's an important point (about the "repetition" I spoke of) missing from my sig (I thought it was in there), from the same article:

Some people today are like sponges; they soak up whatever they come across. It is all too easy to absorb whatever is around us.

But it is far better for each individual personally to choose what he will feed his mind. It is said that we are what we eat, and this can apply to food for both the body and the mind. No matter what you are reading or watching or listening to, test to see whether it has propagandistic overtones or is truthful.

Moreover, if we want to be fair-minded, we must be willing to subject our own opinions to continual testing as we take in new information. We must realize that they are, after all, opinions. Their trustworthiness depends on the validity of our facts, on the quality of our reasoning, and on the standards or values that we choose to apply.

For example, I value inductive reasoning very highly when it comes to determining who (or what) is right (correct) and who (or what) is wrong (incorrect). Like Isaac Newton, I learned the value of this from my study of the bible. It is part of the methodology he used to discover the law of gravity, various facts in physics, optics as well as those regarding God's existence and identity (he used the Latin: "Iehova" in his pseudonym "Iehova Sanctus Unus" in his writings that refute the doctrine of the Trinity). Ok, now that I've brought up Newton I guess I have to elaborate after all.
See this comment first (and search for "principia", another comment on the same page has the rest about inductive reasoning from the principia)
Isaac Newton's Search for God:

In his writings, Newton gave much attention to the doctrine of the Trinity. One of his most outstanding contributions to the Biblical scholarship of the time was his work An Historical Account of Two Notable Corruptions of Scripture, first published in 1754, twenty-seven years after his death. It reviewed all the textual evidence available from ancient sources on two Bible passages, at First John 5:7 and First Timothy 3:16.

In the King James Version Bible, First John 5:7 reads:

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

Using early Church writers, the Greek and Latin manuscripts and the testimony of the first versions of the Bible, Newton proved that the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one,” in support of the Trinity doctrine, did not appear in the original inspired Greek Scriptures. He then traced the way in which the spurious reading crept into the Latin versions, first as a marginal note, and later into the text itself. He showed that it was first taken into a Greek text in 1515 by Cardinal Ximenes on the strength of a late Greek manuscript corrected from the Latin. Finally, Newton considered the sense and context of the verse, concluding, “Thus is the sense plain and natural, and the argument full and strong; but if you insert the testimony of ‘the Three in Heaven’ you interrupt and spoil it.”4

The shorter portion of this dissertation was concerned with 1 Timothy 3:16, which reads (King James Version):

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”

Newton showed how, by a small alteration in the Greek text, the word “God” was inserted to make the phrase read “God was manifest in the flesh.” He demonstrated that early Church writers in referring to the verse knew nothing of such an alteration.
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So on the basis of Scripture, reason and the authentic teaching of early Christianity, Newton found that he could not accept the doctrine of the Trinity. He believed strongly in the supreme sovereignty of Jehovah God, and the proper position of Jesus Christ,...
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Perhaps the best summary of Isaac Newton’s Scriptural arguments for his repudiation of the Trinity is found in fourteen ‘Argumenta,’ written in Latin, giving Bible citations for many of them. Numbers four to seven are particularly interesting:

“4. Because God begot the Son at some time, he had not existence from eternity. Proverbs 8:23, 25.

5. Because the Father is greater than the Son. John 14:28.

6. Because the Son did not know his last hour. Mark 13:32, Matt. 24:36, Rev. 1:1, 5:3.

7. Because the Son received all things from the Father.”18

A perusal of Newton’s religious writings cannot fail to impress the reader with their thoroughness, and a realization of his long and deep meditation, his scholarly ability and grasp of the original Bible languages. His conclusions regarding the Trinity therefore merit our respect and consideration,...

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posted on May, 28 2016 @ 01:09 AM
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a reply to: whereislogic

Oh. I just meant it in the sense that you can be perfectly fine doing something but when someone points it out that what you're doing is dumb, it hurts because you heard it.

You knew already but suppressed it and someone zeros in on it and you get steamed and then you are greatful if you are humble.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 01:23 AM
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posted on May, 28 2016 @ 02:34 AM
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I hope you still love me if I say that Jesus stayed in India for years and Yogis loved him so much that even the greatest yogis like Yogananda wrote many books about him. Yogies don't have so much commonly self-interest to write false books, so there must be some truth. Besides now there are countless psychics channeling Jesus and most of them claiming Jesus was in India, so let's have faith on him, love him and everybody, that is his and yogis life about in practice.
You may see more in article I found inspiring; ______beforeitsnews/spirit/2016/05/jesus-and-israel-never-die-2502435.html



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 02:42 AM
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originally posted by: Suanna
I hope you still love me if I say that Jesus stayed in India for years and Yogis loved him so much that even the greatest yogis like Yogananda wrote many books about him. Yogies don't have so much commonly self-interest to write false books, so there must be some truth. Besides now there are countless psychics channeling Jesus and most of them claiming Jesus was in India, so let's have faith on him, love him and everybody, that is his and yogis life about in practice.
You may see more in article I found inspiring; ______beforeitsnews/spirit/2016/05/jesus-and-israel-never-die-2502435.html


I do.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 03:50 AM
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originally posted by: Parazurvan
Hateful Christians (not you nice Christians)

'Hateful Xtian' is an oxymoron!
Jesus said that the ONLY identifying characteristic of his 'followers' is their unconditional Love!
The judgmental hateful hypocrites are not 'Xtians', they are pretend, social, 'Xtians', wolves in sheep's clothing!

Fortunately they are all easily spotted, and being 'nice' means nothing!

True, unconditional Love is ALWAYS recognized by It's unconditional Virtues; Compassion, Empathy, Sympathy, Gratitude, Humility, Charity ('Charity' is never taking more than your share of anything, ever!), Honesty, Happiness, Faith...
ALWAYS!



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 05:55 AM
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posted on May, 28 2016 @ 06:12 AM
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'Hateful Xtian' is an oxymoron!


And yet, like "Jumbo Shrimp" its a big seller! Christian hatred wrapped in righteous indignation, carrying a cross and flag, is all too prevalent and an unfortunate staple of our society.



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 09:12 AM
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Yes, I read his posts.

He is simply more zealous in his presentation of his faith than I am or you are. Some variations of the faith call their faithful to witness and do so strongly, and Jesus Himself preached that all would hate His followers for His sake.

If everyone you know loves you, then perhaps you are doing something wrong?



posted on May, 28 2016 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Parazurvan

Yes, I read his posts.

He is simply more zealous in his presentation of his faith than I am or you are. Some variations of the faith call their faithful to witness and do so strongly, and Jesus Himself preached that all would hate His followers for His sake.

If everyone you know loves you, then perhaps you are doing something wrong?


Well, I am likable, but far from everyone likes, never mind loves me.

Zealots are never nice. The Zealots were just as bigoted.

And bigotry isn't a quality I will ever admire.



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