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THE Flat Earth thread

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posted on May, 26 2016 @ 03:38 PM
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This topic, like none other that I've stumbled across before, has me baffled. I first stumbled upon the 'Flat Earth Theory' some 30 years ago while living in California. At that time I was 16 years old, and I knew almost everything, so I did what any rational person would do and dismissed the idea immediately, without question, because everyone knew the Earth was a sphere.
Fast forward 12 years or so, while working in Sedona, Arizona, I was fortunate enough to have met Dave, who introduced me to Rudolf Stiener. I got lost in his works for years, reading all about anthroposophy and the like. Does Stiener mention the shape of the Earth, in any of his writings? I'll get back to you on that one, and I say this because at the time of ingesting the information provided by Stiener, I was roughly 28 to 32 years old, and I was absorbing his words from a 'Round Earth' perspective.
Fast forward almost 7 years, I'm now 40, and I stumble across some information regarding Admiral Byrds expeditions to the Antarctic. Again, flat Earth pops up, only this time I have something called the Internet and I'm able to scour the digital highways for more information.
Fast forward to the present. I would like to present to you my findings, developed over the last few years, in an easy to follow, self-explanatory manner. I will attempt, in all the disclosures which will soon unfold, to remain neutral on the subject, and to present my findings, calculations, and other evidences in a manner which will leave the reader in a position wherein a rational, normal, everyday layman should be able to decide for themselves whether the Earth is a sphere, or not. The purpose of this thread therefore shall be twofold. 1). To determine the dimensions of the Earth using current 'scientifically accepted practices', and to provide data that substantiates the findings. 2). To determine the shape of the Earth using 'spherical trigonometry', lasers, and a balloon drone with 8, 10 pixel hd cameras.
All findings shall be posted, as the author wishes this to be an open forum, and hopes for a fair discussion on the results of collected data.
Thank you.




posted on May, 26 2016 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: leastofthese

Yeah, that's the ticket. A flat earth thread!

It has been done to death, considering that it is THE worst conspiracy theory ever, IMHO.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: leastofthese

Hello leastofthese!

I will be following your thread...and if you don't mind, I'd like to leave you a video (if you haven't seen this one yet). Please don't be put off by the length...by the time he's reached the 40-50th 'proof'...you will likely want to see it all.



S&F
jacy



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: leastofthese

Please, do. Though I am certain the earth is round, we need this debate, if you provide things other than measurements that show Bangalore 50 miles from London, I am ready to read.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: leastofthese

Yeah, that's the ticket. A flat earth thread!

It has been done to death, considering that it is THE worst conspiracy theory ever, IMHO.


When I post about chemreails, I am told the same. Let him present something. We'll see.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 03:59 PM
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Look for something of interest near a montain, in my case i saw this phenomena with lake Maracaibo, you can look all this in google maps, from valera its not possible to see it, from the road to bocono you can see it, despite bocono being further away from the lake (random useless example in case someone ask if i observe this myself)

The difference is altitude; the distance to the horizon depends on altitude due to the circumference of earth, in a ratio of d≈3.57(h)^1/2, the 3.57 constant comes from earth radius in km, and its an approximation to the real horizon because it only takes into account geometry and not the effect of atmospheric refraction







en.wikipedia.org...
edit on 26-5-2016 by Indigent because: forget to put image of how flat earth horizon must look



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: reldra
When I post about chemreails, I am told the same.

There's a reason for that.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: reldra
When I post about chemreails, I am told the same.

There's a reason for that.


I am still not convinced. This is what this place is for. The government has sprayed things on entire cities and in subways for decades, yet you want to say chemtrails don't exist, in the bad way. The government just stopped doing these things because they decided it was a bad idea at some point?
That is a poor argument.

Now back to flat earth.
edit on 26-5-2016 by reldra because: (no reason given)

edit on 26-5-2016 by reldra because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:10 PM
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I too believe the earth is a a "ball" or close enough.

So if the earth is flat, there must be ends? Where are they?



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:12 PM
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leastofthese

Behold, the Wall of Text! I'm not saying the Earth isn't flat but...



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat
leastofthese

Behold, the Wall of Text! I'm not saying the Earth isn't flat but...


Please don;t say 'aliens'



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:19 PM
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All findings shall be posted, as the author wishes this to be an open forum, and hopes for a fair discussion on the results of collected data.

I'm confused.

What data?

The author?

What are all the stars and flags for?

Suspense?



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: jacygirl
a reply to: leastofthese

Hello leastofthese!

I will be following your thread...and if you don't mind, I'd like to leave you a video (if you haven't seen this one yet). Please don't be put off by the length...by the time he's reached the 40-50th 'proof'...you will likely want to see it all.



S&F
jacy


Briefly watching that, I think my IQ dropped a few points. Is there anywhere I can request a refund on my time that was not-so-well wasted lol.

Cheers - Dave



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

I don't know about the worst. Have you heard of the Mandela Effect? Both are pretty bad though.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: amazing



So if the earth is flat, there must be ends? Where are they?


They claim there is a great ice wall in the Antarctic.






posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: Blueracer
a reply to: butcherguy

I don't know about the worst. Have you heard of the Mandela Effect? Both are pretty bad though.



Hey Now! Those are my pet conspiracies. You get yours and I get mine.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: leastofthese

Yeah, that's the ticket. A flat earth thread!

It has been done to death, considering that it is THE worst conspiracy theory ever, IMHO.


When I post about chemreails, I am told the same. Let him present something. We'll see.

Or, I could present something:
windows2theuniverse


Eratosthenes was a Greek astronomer in ancient times. Around 240 B.C. he made the first good measurement of the size of the Earth. How did he do that?
Eratosthenes used the lengths of shadows to figure out how high in the sky the Sun was in a certain place on a certain day. He knew of another place where there was no shadow at all on the same day. That meant the Sun was straight overhead. He found out the distance between the two places, then used some geometry to figure out the rest. Let's take a closer look!
Eratosthenes lived in the city of Alexandria. Alexandria is in northern Egypt. It is by the Nile River and the Mediterranean Sea. There was a tall tower in Alexandria. Eratosthenes measured the length of the tower's shadow on the Summer Solstice. He used that information plus some geometry to figure out the angle between the Sun and straight up.
There was a town in southern Egypt called Syene. There was a well in Syene. On the Summer Solstice, the Sun shone straight down the well to the very bottom. That meant the Sun must be straight overhead.
Eratosthenes had someone measure the distance between Alexandria and Syene. He used that distance, what he knew about the Sun's angles, and a bit of geometry to figure out the size of the Earth.
We aren't quite sure what answer Eratosthenes came up with, though. The distance between Alexandria and Syene was measured in stadia. The stadion was a distance unit that was often used in ancient times. However, not everybody used a stadion of the same length. If Eratosthenes used one length for the stadion, his answer was really, really good. The Earth is about 40 thousand kilometers (about 24,860 miles) around. The measurement that Eratosthenes made might have been within about 1% of this. That would be amazing! However, he might have used a different length stadion. If that is true, his answer was off by about 16%. That is still pretty good!

Humans have known that the Earth is round for a long time... long enough that Eratosthenes could figure out the circumference, in 240BC.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: eisegesis

All findings shall be posted, as the author wishes this to be an open forum, and hopes for a fair discussion on the results of collected data.

I'm confused.

What data?

The author?

What are all the stars and flags for?

Suspense?


I am waiting for the OP to provide. The website has been freezing on me. Maybe on the OP too.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: Blueracer
a reply to: butcherguy

I don't know about the worst. Have you heard of the Mandela Effect? Both are pretty bad though.


I vote it second beat.
It has this clause about time lines that effectively makes it impossible to disprove.....
But then, they can't prove it is real either.



posted on May, 26 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: leastofthese

Yeah, that's the ticket. A flat earth thread!

It has been done to death, considering that it is THE worst conspiracy theory ever, IMHO.


When I post about chemreails, I am told the same. Let him present something. We'll see.

Or, I could present something:
windows2theuniverse


Eratosthenes was a Greek astronomer in ancient times. Around 240 B.C. he made the first good measurement of the size of the Earth. How did he do that?
Eratosthenes used the lengths of shadows to figure out how high in the sky the Sun was in a certain place on a certain day. He knew of another place where there was no shadow at all on the same day. That meant the Sun was straight overhead. He found out the distance between the two places, then used some geometry to figure out the rest. Let's take a closer look!
Eratosthenes lived in the city of Alexandria. Alexandria is in northern Egypt. It is by the Nile River and the Mediterranean Sea. There was a tall tower in Alexandria. Eratosthenes measured the length of the tower's shadow on the Summer Solstice. He used that information plus some geometry to figure out the angle between the Sun and straight up.
There was a town in southern Egypt called Syene. There was a well in Syene. On the Summer Solstice, the Sun shone straight down the well to the very bottom. That meant the Sun must be straight overhead.
Eratosthenes had someone measure the distance between Alexandria and Syene. He used that distance, what he knew about the Sun's angles, and a bit of geometry to figure out the size of the Earth.
We aren't quite sure what answer Eratosthenes came up with, though. The distance between Alexandria and Syene was measured in stadia. The stadion was a distance unit that was often used in ancient times. However, not everybody used a stadion of the same length. If Eratosthenes used one length for the stadion, his answer was really, really good. The Earth is about 40 thousand kilometers (about 24,860 miles) around. The measurement that Eratosthenes made might have been within about 1% of this. That would be amazing! However, he might have used a different length stadion. If that is true, his answer was off by about 16%. That is still pretty good!

Humans have known that the Earth is round for a long time... long enough that Eratosthenes could figure out the circumference, in 240BC.


And there is your wall of text from Eratosthenes. Smart guy. but do we know he was right?



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