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Stephen King Joins Hundreds of Authors in Open Letter Blasting Trump

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posted on May, 29 2016 @ 12:04 AM
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originally posted by: BlackboxInquiry
a reply to: ketsuko

Funny how once those (celebrities, writers, etc.) who get their money from the capitalist system, all of a sudden change party and go on a 'moral' rampage against the very thing that allowed them the opportunity to live their dreams


No...bigotry, hate, ignorance and everything they cite did not "allow" them the opportunity to realize their best selves??

What strange nonsense..

You are equating sociopathic greed with success.. A path for sure, but not the only one and not the one these authors have travelled.

You..and perhaps you are not alone..do not understand the true virtues of capitalism nor recognize the empty, dark and dank shadows of the capitalistic system that pose as "success".
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posted on May, 29 2016 @ 01:05 AM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
Just gotta say, I'm a huge fan of Stephen King. One of the greatest authors ever. His books are amazing... and despite the general typecast that he's a horror writer, his stories are always filled with so much heart. And I LOVE that he's come out and again proven himself to be on the right side of history.





He's probably still mad he got run over.

Did he write Misery before or after the accident?

Was Richard Castle on the list?




posted on May, 29 2016 @ 01:05 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

Exactly. These writers aren't taking any stance here. They're simply telling others not to take a stance as well.

Kind of a pointless exercise but at least it is well written.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: BlackboxInquiry
a reply to: ketsuko

Funny how once those (celebrities, writers, etc.) who get their money from the capitalist system, all of a sudden change party and go on a 'moral' rampage against the very thing that allowed them the opportunity to live their dreams


No...bigotry, hate, ignorance and everything they cite did not "allow" them the opportunity to realize their best selves??

What strange nonsense..

You are equating sociopathic greed with success.. A path for sure, but not the only one and not the one these authors have travelled.

You..and perhaps you are not alone..do not understand the true virtues of capitalism nor recognize the empty, dark and dank shadows of the capitalistic system that pose as "success".



And say the system of what would be better? Socialism?



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 10:39 AM
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posted on May, 29 2016 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: Pyrrho
a reply to: Indigo5

Exactly. These writers aren't taking any stance here. They're simply telling others not to take a stance as well.

Kind of a pointless exercise but at least it is well written.


That's one way to spin it, but not an accurate spin is it? They clearly are making a stance. Pretty obvious stance actually.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

Republicans have lost their way. They absolutely do not see the difference between sociopathic greed and success. In their minds one leads to the other quite naturally.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

Not really. The letter abuses strong language such as "bigot" to try and shut down other peoples' opinions. They aren't really taking a stance, they are trying to tell others not to.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: Pyrrho
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Not really. The letter abuses strong language such as "bigot" to try and shut down other peoples' opinions. They aren't really taking a stance, they are trying to tell others not to.


I feel silly having to point this out, but it's okay, I'm a dad to a toddler so I'm used to pointing out simple concepts.

See, actually, they ARE making a stance.It's a stance against something for all the reasons they give. Those reasons are the sentences that begin with "Because". It's confusing because it's a lot of words, but at the very very end, you'll see they actually say "for these reasons"... And they say what their stance is. See if you can find it! I bet you can!




posted on May, 29 2016 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

I know you're desperate to have your opinion validated by authority figures, but you seem to forget that this is a candidate for election that they are speaking against. They aren't taking a stance for any issues, or saying that there is a better alternative to this candidate, they are simply saying NOT to support this candidate.

If you think you know what these people stand for based on this letter alone, you're making far too many assumptions and interpreting the words to fit your perspective.

I would love to see the follow up to this letter where they provide reasoning and information to back up their opinion. Until then, writing that letter was a pointless exercise.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: BlackboxInquiry

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: BlackboxInquiry
a reply to: ketsuko

Funny how once those (celebrities, writers, etc.) who get their money from the capitalist system, all of a sudden change party and go on a 'moral' rampage against the very thing that allowed them the opportunity to live their dreams


No...bigotry, hate, ignorance and everything they cite did not "allow" them the opportunity to realize their best selves??

What strange nonsense..

You are equating sociopathic greed with success.. A path for sure, but not the only one and not the one these authors have travelled.

You..and perhaps you are not alone..do not understand the true virtues of capitalism nor recognize the empty, dark and dank shadows of the capitalistic system that pose as "success".



And say the system of what would be better? Socialism?


When did I suggest another system apart from capitalism? I am a huge fan of capitalism. I have known great success in our capitalistic system, I love the challenge.

Again...Sociopathic greed, intolerance, bullying, arrogance, brutality etc. etc. are not perquisites to success within capitalism. How to explain this...there are creators, inventors, hard workers, innovators....and then there are people that look to game the system via loop-holes in bankruptcy laws, loopholes in the tax code, preying on people ...and at best "renters income"...just collecting money because you already own something etc.

Trump University? Which wasn't a University and is now the subject of multiple lawsuits?

They scammed hardworking people..People who thought Trump was a "success"..They paid between 20k-80k...and got a bunch of pamphlets...taught nothing...some of the professors

One of the things they actually did teach...paying unpaid tax debts of elderly people so they could seize their homes.

Did Trump make money on it? Sure. Do I consider that success? No.

money.cnn.com...

I consider "success" as people who work hard, invent, optimize, innovate and create (like these authors).

Trump has money, but he is failure in any way think important...I am very pro-capitalism, it's the best system in the world..I just think Trump is a parasite to capitalism...he sucks plenty of blood, but that doesn't make him a success IMO, it just makes him a large parasite to hard working people.

Trump University Scam here...People who thought he was the greatest business ever...up until he used that to scam them out of thousands.
money.cnn.com...
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posted on May, 29 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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I don't care if they are "celebrity's" they see the same crap millions of others see in Trump and they do not like it. Trump supporters just cannot fathom that their hero is so hated, it's inconceivable to them. Trump is going to make George Bush jr look like a saint!!!



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: Pyrrho

Desperate to have my opinion validated? Are you seriously not able to read and comprehend that letter?

You're desperate to cling to weird illusions. It's so bizarre.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat
Indigo5

Are they doing one for Hillary? She's (just as) evil. Probably not is my guess. Lesser of two evils, wot wot. 😔


Is she really the lesser???



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 01:02 PM
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torok67

Funny, I thought the same right as soon as I hit post. 😃😄😌😒



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
Artists, writers, poets and musicians should voice their concerns and opinions. Who better?

The mistake we make is thinking that Politicians and Lawyers are smarter than celebrities. We all, here on ATS, know that's not true.

Good for King and those writers. Also, I don't mind Charlie Daniels and Ted Nugget and any of those peeps voicing opposing opinions. I'm not a big fan of Charlie Daniels, but again, he'll articulate the feelings many American's have better than most Americans, because he is an artist and wordsmith.


You should see some of the 360 degree movies made for VR. The photographer will photograph cathedrals, canyons, cliffs and famous buildings. The filmmaker will capture tornadoes, journeys into volcanic craters, swimming with dolphins, the space shuttle and Pluto. Meanwhile the musician and author film themselves.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 04:10 PM
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a reply to: conspiracy nut

The one thing I don't get is why people would even want to go for a guy that is so hated and obviously unable to unite the country. Maybe there's that many bitter spiteful people in this country. It makes it hard to be proud of this place when half the people are fueled by anger, fear, and hatred towards their own countrymen.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: stormcellMeanwhile the musician and author film themselves.


Lol. Were you scorned by pianist? Tell us your story.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: BrokedownChevy
a reply to: conspiracy nut

The one thing I don't get is why people would even want to go for a guy that is so hated and obviously unable to unite the country. Maybe there's that many bitter spiteful people in this country. It makes it hard to be proud of this place when half the people are fueled by anger, fear, and hatred towards their own countrymen.


it's because the republicans have run out of ideas on how to improve this country without hurting the middle class and poor. so they institute a nation wide media attack to promote that fear, anger, and hatred, through the portals of FOX NEWS, rush Limbaugh, etc...they couldn't get elected if they said what they really want from this government....to privatize social security, eliminate the education department, the energy department, turn Medicare over to the states, eliminate Roe v wade, unions, civil rights legislation, gay rights, give huge tax breaks to corporations and the wealthy....the list goes on.



posted on May, 29 2016 @ 05:33 PM
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I think anyone should be able to speak up and let everyone (who is interested) know what they think of any candidate for political office, pro and con. I have to say, though, that while it is somewhat effective for hundreds of writers to get together as a group and voice opposition to a particular candidate, it is not particularly courageous to do so.

I would much rather hear individual writers give their impressions of political candidates. It would take a lot more personal courage to do that and it would be much more interesting and informative than a generic letter like the one cited by the OP.

The custodians of culture in the 20th century did not have a very good record of safe guarding humane values. It takes guts to do it and in most situations most cultural icons have run for cover or been very polite and discrete about voicing what are often unpopular opinions.

I can't really blame people for not wanting to throw away a career in order to save society as a whole, but I think our cultural elite, if they have strong opinions about a political candidate, should express those opinions in creative, memorable and effective ways, not by uttering one loud collective "BLEAT" before returning to reflective rumination and creation.

The letter is a start but left as it is, it strikes me as being a "baaaaahhhed" move.
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