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originally posted by: Parazurvan
a reply to: dashen
Only the founder of the Baha'i faith is mentioned as identifying Idris with Hermes and that is his assumption he has no scripture to connect it to Islam.
So I think you're looking at a minority for information about the majority which isn't very logical.
It was one of the earliest priest cities of the world. It was formerly the capital of the ancient kingdom of Sumer which came into being right after the Flood.
www.askelm.com... Kish is part of Iran and I don't think Martin is referring to them at all ..
The priestly Koreish tribe of Mecca, to which all the Arabs of the peninsula gave honor and respect, has an interesting traditional history associated with it. Its ancient origination was from one of the most famous cities and regions of Mesopotamia. They were known to have come from Cutha (the Encyclopaedia Britannica, 11th Ed., vol. 17, p.399b). Cutha was a city located before the days of Alexander the Great a few miles northeast of Babylon. It was one of the earliest priest cities of the world. It was formerly the capital of the ancient kingdom of Sumer which came into being right after the Flood. It was first built by Cush the son of Ham (from whom it was named) and it was a city associated in power and influence with Babylon itself. And note this. It was the same central area from whence the Samaritans who lived in central Palestine came from. That’s right, Muhammed and the Samaritans had the same origin. It means that both of them were a part of The People That History Forgot. The fact that Muhammed had his origin from a priestly tribe that came from the famous Cutha in Mesopotamia is a most significant bit of information. At the time of Muhammed, the city of Cutha had long ago disappeared (it came to an end just after the time of Alexander the Great), but for the Koreish tribe to remember their prestigious priestly origin for the centuries that followed shows that they held their Cutha ancestry in esteem. The word "Koreish" means the same as "Cyrus" in Hebrew and they may have adopted the name in honor of the Persian king because he restored the priesthoods in Mesopotamia to their former prestige and let peoples raise up temples and priesthoods in other areas of the Persian Empire. The Koreish knew they came from the priestly center of Cutha and they said Abraham was born there. This means that at sometime in the past (probably a few centuries before Christ when Cutha was still thriving as a city), some of the priests from that region of Mesopotamia moved into western Arabia and joined forces with the people of Ishmael by marrying into their stock and becoming their priests.
originally posted by: SeaWorthy
I had assumed the shrine was clearly Goddess worship because they kiss the siver vagina and the black stone seems to represent some black form being born.
In many places, temples were consecrated in conjunction with Aphrodite, as in Attica, Arcadia, Crete, Samos and in Magna Graecia. Several ex-votos found in his temples revealed his role as initiator of young adulthood, among them soldiers and hunters, since war and certain forms of hunting were seen as ceremonial initiatory ordeals. This function of Hermes explains why some images in temples and other vessels show him as a teenager. As a patron of the gym and fighting, Hermes had statues in gyms and he was also worshiped in the sanctuary of the Twelve Gods in Olympia, where Greeks celebrated the Olympic Games. His statue was held there on an altar dedicated to him and Apollo together. A temple within the Aventine was consecrated in 495 BC
originally posted by: Kantzveldt
a reply to: dashen
You're quite correct in all of this very well done, what most people don't get is that retrograde Mercury will communicate in terms of constant lies and misinformation, in this aspect relating to the concept of Lucifer as popularly imagined, but the qualifier is that information communicated is always technically neutral and that it is what the individual receiving such makes of it that counts, thus if the false information conforms to the evil desires and expectations of such an individual it will be accepted, a good individual would reject the same as ridiculous, in short Mercury set the Arabs up.
a reply to: Parazurvan
You're totally wrong in all of that, Thoth was the Egyptian Moon God, in ancient Egypt all planetary spiritual aspects barring perhaps Venus were related to Horus as components of his psyche, in Sumeria a similar sort of situation had prevailed were they related to Ninurta though by Babylonian times there are contradictions and later still in Greco-Roman times the planets were individuated.