What would your country do if....

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Krazysh0t

And your were provided with a list.

California Governor Jerry Brown signed legislation last year prohibiting state agencies from selling or displaying items bearing the flag. (August 21, 2014)

That is a government. The California state government,

There's more GOVERNMENT.

twitter.com...

I see you didn't bother reading it.

Do you not know what the definition of "illegal" is? I'll give you a hint, what you posted above isn't it.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

California Governor Jerry Brown signed legislation last year prohibiting state agencies from selling or displaying items bearing the flag. (August 21, 2014)

Clearly some people don't.

a reply to: neo96

LOL You realize that doesn't mean the confederate flag is illegal in California, right? California's citizens and businesses can still buy, sell, and display the flag. That's like saying porn is illegal in a state because its state agencies are forbidden from watching it on the job.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Krazysh0t

California Governor Jerry Brown signed legislation last year prohibiting state agencies from selling or displaying items bearing the flag. (August 21, 2014)

Clearly some people don't.

Nope. You are still ignorant to the definition of illegal.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: neo96

LOL Yoou realize that doesn't mean the confederate flag is illegal in California, right? California's citizens and businesses can still buy, sell, and display the flag. That's like say porn is illegal in a state because its state agencies are forbidden from watching it on the job.

Shhh... Don't tell him. I'm enjoying watching neo put his foot in his mouth.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I probably should've used a better example. lol But I think it gets the point across.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: jjkenobi

Well any country with freedom of speech (read: most if not all of the 1st world) would let this slide because it is 100% legal. Don't like it? Tough #.

A foreign group, that can't legally vote and isn't legally allowed to be in the country, waving their own country's flag, protesting another country's election process. And the best intellectual commentary you can come up with is "tough #"?

a reply to: jjkenobi

Where's your proof that those specific individuals holding the Mexican flags weren't legal citizens? I guess that every time someone waves an Irish-related flag on St. Patrick's Day, we have to assume they're illegal Irish immigrants, right?

Also, you don't find it funny that this happened in Albuquerque, New Mexico? It's almost like they were reminding Trump that New Mexico and several other MidWestern states were once a part of Mexico, and that Mexican people were literally on the land before they became US States. In that context, the Mexican flag is actually an accurate historical flag for Albuquerque residents.

I have lots of Scottish people in my neighbourhood. All very proud of their scotchness, so I use terms like scotchness to annoy them.

a reply to: woodwardjnr

I am proud of my scotchness on the weekend. One glass at a time.

I don't understand the beef with Mexico. They are all hard working family people who on the whole are very religious, don't believe in abortion and respect family values. Sounds like the type of people Americans should like

a reply to: woodwardjnr

In theory, you're correct. But since when have humans been logical?

1. Don't believe the hype. A lot of the people who claim they're against illegal Mexican immigrants actually love hiring them for cheap labor. They just want to keep them illegal/taboo here so they can keep paying them crappy wages (as in, they want to keep a permanent cheap labor pool that can be deported without pay if they speak up about their horrid working conditions).

2. "Mexican food" is widely popular all over the US, as are a lot of other Mexican things and Mexican people. Mexican culture is meshed with many parts of "American" culture and most of us like it that way. (As I mentioned above, several of our States were once a part of Mexico and a large amount of their cities still have Spanish names.)

3. The anti-Mexico people you typically hear from are rightwingers, which are stereotypically xenophobic anyway. (note: I said "stereotypically") Just keep a mental note of most of the ones complaining about Mexicans and you'll notice many or most of them will also be against Muslims, inner city youth (aka "black kids"), Arabs, LGBT citizens, and any other "undesirables" etc.

4. Jobs. Companies and politicians have successfully turned poor American workers against poor foreign workers. Instead of going after the employers who intentionally lowball them (or the politicians who give companies incentives to hire cheap foreign labor), many poor workers take out their frustrations on the foreign workers instead. And this isn't new. One of the big anti-integration arguments from the 1950s and 60s was that the newly integrated African American workers would be taking "their" jobs, too. In fact, the AFL (now a part of the AFL-CIO) was originally only pro-white workers' rights.

5. Last but not least, there's the racial angle. People can deny it as much as they want, but it's still there. I could list a few racial slurs for you to look into, but it's against the site rules and it's against good sense. But the point is, many American right wingers are still strongly anti-Hispanic people because of racial issues. And they're not ashamed to say it (look on any right wing site/forum and you'll quickly see what I mean).

edit: Actually, I have to correct one thing. There are anti-Latino people in all parts of America's political spectrum. But it's far more widespread and vocal on the right wing lol (yeah, I said it).

What would I do?

I would not bitch about it on ATS.

I would promote a counter protest if I feel the protest is wrong.

"Freedom of Speech".......

originally posted by: jjkenobi

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: jjkenobi

Well any country with freedom of speech (read: most if not all of the 1st world) would let this slide because it is 100% legal. Don't like it? Tough #.

A foreign group, that can't legally vote and isn't legally allowed to be in the country, waving their own country's flag, protesting another country's election process. And the best intellectual commentary you can come up with is "tough #"?

Yep, such is the way that Freedom of Speech works. I'll say it again. Tough #.

PS: How do you know that they are in the country illegally?

originally posted by: jjkenobi

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: jjkenobi

Well any country with freedom of speech (read: most if not all of the 1st world) would let this slide because it is 100% legal. Don't like it? Tough #.

A foreign group, that can't legally vote and isn't legally allowed to be in the country, waving their own country's flag, protesting another country's election process. And the best intellectual commentary you can come up with is "tough #"?

You know a good part of the US was Mexican so its flag is very much a part of out American heritage. And you have no idea who is waving those flags. And of course we have in this country freedom of speech so yes pretty much if you do not like it all you can do is complain.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

Im not agreeing with what the did and the only point i was attempting to make is that if daftys did not make stupid derogatory statements against minority's crap like this could possibly be avoided. Especially daftys in the running for the position of POTUS.

Words have power and do indeed breed violence and discontent if used in an inappropriate fashion, something Trump is famous for if you ask me.

a reply to: andy06shake

Well, he is famous for speaking his mind (whatever flavor of the month that is), that's for sure, but you and I will differ concerning the inappropriateness of speaking one's mind openly.

Personally, I think political correctness in this country has bred more hate and violence than anything else.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

Aye political correctness certainly does have a lot to answer for!

a reply to: jjkenobi
First of all, a flag is a piece of cloth, not less, not more.
Can´t understand how one can make such a circus because of a peace of cloth, with which the government identifies the nation that´s fooling you.

Then, i couldn´t believe it, but it is really forbidden in germany to burn the german flag. That made me laugh. Freedom and stuff...

So, let´s say i buy ten german flags, with my own money. Who will stop me from burning my own property???
If the powers that suppress people but serve the "elites" would come, i would say that it isn´t a german flag because it´s upside down, and with that not black, red, gold but gold, red, black, which is obviously not the german flag. They should try to prove the opposite!

I would tell them that i even didn´t know that this should be german flags, thought about beach blankets when i bought them. They should try to prove the opposite!

What a stupid nonsense, these laws. Because of a piece of cloth. Makes me laugh again. Good that we don´t have real problems...

in britain many far right parties attract protesters, unhappy at being told to go home by said parties.
the only ones left complaining are the far right, unhappy nobody shares their allusion and, unhappy protesters have a say, in a free society.
left using the argument 'this wouldn't happen anywhere else' the righties tend to let their frustrations out via social media.
meanwhile the vast majority of the country understands, that telling black/middle eastern racial types to go home is ludicrous.
deflated but not defeated, the again right turns to the internet, blaming a bias media painting them racist.