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originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: JoshuaCox
If a bathroom is out of order, then a business can make some provision for that. To allow anyone into whatever restroom, whenever they want, is something else entirely. Already, there are a LOT of cases of men taking pics and attacking in ladies' rooms. This would only get worse.
originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: JoshuaCox
If a bathroom is out of order, then a business can make some provision for that. To allow anyone into whatever restroom, whenever they want, is something else entirely. Already, there are a LOT of cases of men taking pics and attacking in ladies' rooms. This would only get worse.
Out of curiosity, how many of those cases involved transgender people, and how many involved paranoid anti gay activists? From what I've read, ALL cases have fallen of the latter category.
originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: JoshuaCox
If a bathroom is out of order, then a business can make some provision for that. To allow anyone into whatever restroom, whenever they want, is something else entirely. Already, there are a LOT of cases of men taking pics and attacking in ladies' rooms. This would only get worse.
originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
Out of curiosity, how many of those cases involved transgender people, and how many involved paranoid anti gay activists? From what I've read, ALL cases have fallen of the latter category.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
Out of curiosity, how many of those cases involved transgender people, and how many involved paranoid anti gay activists? From what I've read, ALL cases have fallen of the latter category.
You keep on going not understanding one thing... Let's leave for a minute the fact that many transgenders still have their male organs and have intercourse using their male organs and that many still like to have intercourse with women and some even with minors... These mandates allow MEN, even men who do not dress as women, being able to enter a woman's restroom, and locker room...
Now, could you please post evidence of your claim that all the cases have been anti-gay activists posing as being transgender?...
its because it sounds like you are advocating for and justifying that a grown man has any reason to be in a woman rest room.
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: malevolent
no, but I am asking you just what do you think I was justifying? and yes, I agree that the mother (or FATHER) should have accompanied her into the bathroom. but then, if she was with her father and the only choice is women only and men only bathroom, we are back to either ignoring the signs, or sending her in alone, aren't we?
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: JoshuaCox
If a bathroom is out of order, then a business can make some provision for that. To allow anyone into whatever restroom, whenever they want, is something else entirely. Already, there are a LOT of cases of men taking pics and attacking in ladies' rooms. This would only get worse.
Yes but are they the undenighably and insanely rare cases of men dressing as women AND pretending to be trans AND looking to assault people in a bathroom AND catching some one alone AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, influence by the fact Trans people are allowed to use the bathroom the live their life is...
So how exactly does this stop an assault??
No one has ever come up with a scenerio where this law saves the day...ever....but it's really easy to imagaine how innocent people will be harassed and is already happening a month in...
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
All because a small subset of republicans are so scared of the world, they need meaningless knee jerk legislation to feel safe enough to take a piss.....
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Reminds me of the idiots who take their pistol with them at all times, even when taking a dump in their own home... You know, "just in case."
So scared of the world they can't even relax enough to poop. Lol
originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: JoshuaCox
If a bathroom is out of order, then a business can make some provision for that. To allow anyone into whatever restroom, whenever they want, is something else entirely. Already, there are a LOT of cases of men taking pics and attacking in ladies' rooms. This would only get worse.
Out of curiosity, how many of those cases involved transgender people, and how many involved paranoid anti gay activists? From what I've read, ALL cases have fallen of the latter category.
originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: JoshuaCox
If a bathroom is out of order, then a business can make some provision for that. To allow anyone into whatever restroom, whenever they want, is something else entirely. Already, there are a LOT of cases of men taking pics and attacking in ladies' rooms. This would only get worse.
Yes but are they the undenighably and insanely rare cases of men dressing as women AND pretending to be trans AND looking to assault people in a bathroom AND catching some one alone AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, influence by the fact Trans people are allowed to use the bathroom the live their life is...
So how exactly does this stop an assault??
No one has ever come up with a scenerio where this law saves the day...ever....but it's really easy to imagaine how innocent people will be harassed and is already happening a month in...
Laws that allow people to use the restrooms/locker rooms/etc. of their choice mean that no one is allowed to complain about a man in the ladies' room. When men are allowed in, the opportunities to commit crime necessarily increase. This is common sense, and it's already being shown to be true.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
All because a small subset of republicans are so scared of the world, they need meaningless knee jerk legislation to feel safe enough to take a piss.....
Nope, sorry. Pretending that people have a fear/phobia, because they ask for common sense laws, doesn't cut it. Got anything besides insults for the opposition to support your position?
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Reminds me of the idiots who take their pistol with them at all times, even when taking a dump in their own home... You know, "just in case."
So scared of the world they can't even relax enough to poop. Lol
This has nothing to do with that. You know this. I know this. Everyone knows this. The deflection is getting old, fast.
originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: JoshuaCox
If a bathroom is out of order, then a business can make some provision for that. To allow anyone into whatever restroom, whenever they want, is something else entirely. Already, there are a LOT of cases of men taking pics and attacking in ladies' rooms. This would only get worse.
Out of curiosity, how many of those cases involved transgender people, and how many involved paranoid anti gay activists? From what I've read, ALL cases have fallen of the latter category.
I don't know of ANY such case that involved any activist; the cases I have read were all perverted types taking advantage of these new rules. Whether such a person considers themselves to be another sex or not is irrelevant.
It's simple - if your junk is out, mens' room, if in, ladies' room.
originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
While I’ve been told I should use a pronoun of one’s choosing out of respect and kindness, I decline to do so because I refuse to play along with the delusion. We don’t play along with the delusions of schizophrenics, and I won’t play along with the notion that someone with a penis is somehow a woman.
Out of curiosity... If you and I were to meet, what pronouns would you use when addressing me? You've never seen my birth certificate. You've never seen my driver's license or passport. You've never seen inside my pants.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
While I’ve been told I should use a pronoun of one’s choosing out of respect and kindness, I decline to do so because I refuse to play along with the delusion. We don’t play along with the delusions of schizophrenics, and I won’t play along with the notion that someone with a penis is somehow a woman.
Out of curiosity... If you and I were to meet, what pronouns would you use when addressing me? You've never seen my birth certificate. You've never seen my driver's license or passport. You've never seen inside my pants.
Excuse me, but you should learn to properly quote people. That wasn't me who wrote that. It was someone else, so you should ask them that question. As for me?... I am not going to learn every "pronoun" that people want to be called today... But if I see someone who is a stranger to me and looks like a woman, if we need to talk for whatever reason I would refer to that person as the sex i think they are....
However, this issue is not about how anyone sees another person with their clothes on. We are talking about transgenders with male organs being allowed in women's restrooms, including when minors are present. These are two entirely different situations. You don't seem to understand that there is a big problem in your understanding what personal space is, and the fact that not all women, with female sex organs, or minors want to be in a restroom or locker with a transgender with male sexual organs changing with them etc.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
There have been no legit cases of men pretending to be transgendered on an attempt to assault some one....
There have been cases of perverts pretending to be WOMEN in an attempt to assault some one, but that's not the same thing... There is nothing about this law that prevents that...
There have been the opposite ones... Where some dude chased a lesbian that looked make into the ladies room and chased them out, specifically because of this law and the media hype around it..
Lynchburg woman indicted on rape charge
Posted: Thursday, October 8, 2015 8:42 am
Eleanor Roy
A Lynchburg woman was indicted by a grand jury Monday on felony rape and abduction charges stemming from an August incident involving a juvenile, according to the Lynchburg Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office.
Julianna Tourmaline Fialkowski, 25, faces one count each of felony rape; abduction with the intent to defile; enticing another into a dwelling with intent to commit a felony; strangulation; and misdemeanor assault, according to the indictment.
The charges stem from incidents that happened Aug. 17, the indictment said.
Deputy Commonwealth’s Attorney Bethany Harrison said in an email Wednesday the incidents involved one juvenile victim.
Fialkowski was arrested Sept. 1 on eight counts of producing child pornography, Lynchburg Police Lt. Malcolm Booker said in an email last month.
He said the charges stemmed from an incident on July 28, but declined to give more details because of the ongoing investigation.
Harrison had no comment about whether the charges on which Fialkowski was indicted occurred during the production of child pornography.
Fialkowski, a transgender woman, made headlines last year when a judge denied her request to change her name from Joseph David Fialkowski.
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February 13, 2016 9:24 PM
Transgender man accused in sex crimes, assault on transgender minor
GEORGE COUNTY -- A George County grand jury has indicted a transgender man from Lucedale on assault charges and sex crimes against a transgender minor.
By MARGARET BAKER [email protected] Twitter: margar45
GEORGE COUNTY -- A George County grand jury has indicted a transgender man from Lucedale on assault charges and sex crimes against a transgender minor.
The grand jury indicted Krishna "Kris" Maroney, 24, on eight counts of sexual battery, two counts of touching of a child for lustful purposes and two counts of aggravated domestic violence.
According to the indictment, the victim had been in a "dating" relationship with Maroney, but was younger than 16 at the time.
Maroney is accused of engaging in sex acts with the victim eight times and touching the minor sexually on at least two occasions.
Maroney also is accused in one incident of trying to strangle the victim. In another, the indictment says, Maroney cut the victim's tongue with a knife.
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Stamford transgender person charged with sexually assaulting minor
John Nickerson, Staff Writer Updated 10:33 pm, Wednesday, June 8, 2011
STAMFORD -- A city transgender person was arrested early Wednesday morning after police say she sexually assaulted a teenage boy at Stamford Town Center in April.
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Youth Bureau Sgt. Dedrich Hohn said Johnson, who is known to patrol officers in the South End, was picked up at 2 a.m. Wednesday on Atlantic Street near Veterans Park, where she met with the youth before the April 26 incident. Hohn said the patrol division was alerted to Johnson's arrest warrant Monday night. The victim is a student with special needs, Hohn said.
Hohn said after meeting the youth just after 7 p.m. at Veterans Park on that April night, Johnson allegedly lured him into a men's room at Stamford Town Center.
The assault occurred in the men's room, Hohn said. Police secured videotape of the two going into the bathroom.
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Transgender Woman: Convictions Irrelevant to Citation
Witherspoon convicted in 1990 for sexual assault of child, indecency with child
By Ray Villeda
A transgender woman who was ticketed for using the women’s restroom at a Dallas hospital says her status as a convicted sex offender should not play a role in the citation.
Paula Witherspoon told NBC 5's Ellen Goldberg on Tuesday that Parkland Hospital police cited her last week.
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LGBT Chamber president steps down after criticism of his sex-offender status
Chad Sevearance-Turner was criticized by NC Values Coalition for record as a sex offender
Conservative group raised questions about LGBT Chamber’s role in crafting expanded nondiscrimination ordinance
By Steve Harrison
[email protected]
The former president of Charlotte’s LGBT Chamber of Commerce has resigned after he came under fire from a conservative group, which noted that he is on a sex offender list and questioned his role in supporting the city’s expanded nondiscrimination ordinance.
Chad Sevearance-Turner had been the president of the chamber, which supported the newly expanded ordinance that gives legal protection for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender individuals.
At a City Council meeting Feb. 8, Mayor Jennifer Roberts cited a survey that showed discrimination was a real problem for the LGBT community. During the meeting, she said the survey was conducted by the LGBT Chamber.
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originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
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Just curious, but how often do you think that kids are exposed to other naked kids in school locker rooms? According to my grandkids, that DOESN'T happen, i.e. it's all just hype.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
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Just curious, but how often do you think that kids are exposed to other naked kids in school locker rooms? According to my grandkids, that DOESN'T happen, i.e. it's all just hype.
Transgenders can feel like a man one day, and like a woman the next.
originally posted by: Liquesence
You know how they feel? You're transgender?
I think you're confusing transgender with transvestites or cross dressers.
The man who's had TWO sex changes: Incredible story of Walt, who became Laura, then REVERSED the operation because he believes surgeons in US and Europe are too quick to operate
Walt Heyer had sex change to become a woman when he was 42 years old
After eight years living as Laura Jensen, he reverted back to being a man
He believes the desire to change gender stems from psychological trauma
Heyer controversially disputes that Gender Dysphoria is a genetic disorder
Now 74, he acts as a counselor to those considering a sex change surgery
Psychological vetting of patients before operation is inadequate, he claims
By Jay Akbar For Mailonline
Published: 03:10 EST, 26 January 2015 | Updated: 07:38 EST, 26 January 2015
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Public School LGBT Programs Don't Just Trample Parental Rights. They Also Put Kids at Risk.
by Walt Heyer
within Education, Marriage, Sexuality
June 8th, 2015
No matter what well-intentioned teachers and administrators believe, LGBT acceptance programs designed by GLSEN and funded by the CDC are designed to encourage kids to question their gender identity and sexual orientation.
Through his executive appointments, President Obama has helped expose American schoolchildren to activism that places them at risk.
On May 19, 2009, a few short months after his inauguration, Obama gave the green light to Secretary of Education Arne Duncan to appoint Kevin Jennings to a top position to influence school policy: the post of Assistant Deputy Secretary for the Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools, also known as the “safe schools czar.” Jennings, a powerful LGBT rights activist who is himself a gay man, was the founder of the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). GLSEN is one of the largest LGBT activist organizations in the nation and is devoted to promoting homosexuality in K-12 schools. Jennings served as “safe schools czar” from 2009-2011.
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Man-splaining Is No Excuse For Invading Girls’ Locker Rooms
By Bethany Mandel
September 3, 2015
The 150 Missouri girls who walked out of their locker room when a young man barged in, insisting he’s a woman, are courageous and deserve admiration, not man-splaining.
One hundred and fifty students at a high school in Missouri are braver than I am. Up until now, I have not really shared how politically incorrect I am: I refuse to use pronouns of someone’s choosing. If a man was born a man, I will call him “he” and vice versa for a woman.
While I’ve been told I should use a pronoun of one’s choosing out of respect and kindness, I decline to do so because I refuse to play along with the delusion. We don’t play along with the delusions of schizophrenics, and I won’t play along with the notion that someone with a penis is somehow a woman. It’s usually the same folks who scream about (the complicated) science on global warming also asking the rest of us to ignore basic human biology. The times, they may be a changin’, but I refuse to go along with the tide. The situation in Missouri is why.
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