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Clinton declines to debate Sanders in California

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posted on May, 23 2016 @ 08:11 PM
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Hillary Clinton will not debate Bernie Sanders in California, her top campaign spokeswoman said Monday.

Declining to participate in the Fox News debate -- which Sanders had agreed to -- is another clear sign that Clinton and her top aides are fully focused on the general election against Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee.
Clinton declines to debate Sanders in California


Showing up to debate Sanders now would make it look like Clinton considers Sanders to be viable competition. Since she's already stated that she's assured the Democratic nomination, why debate Sanders?

I think the following skit hit in the nail on the head. A real conversation between Clinton and Sanders right now would probably sound a lot like this.


www.youtube.com...

Hillary & Bernie have a drink together (Saturday Night Live)




posted on May, 23 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

I think this looks negative for Hillary. Whenever a candidate refuses to debate I assume they are too intimidated. I also think her campaign knows it makes her look bad. Hillary doesn't have the nomination, yet.

I wonder why she would make such a risky move.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

Well, he's been shunned, ignored, marginalized and cheated this whole time so doing it one more time doesn't make much difference at this point anyway.

Plus having it on Fox News would just put her in the firing line. It would certainly result in her losing more support as she'd be defending against Sanders and Fox News at the same time.

So while I personally think she's a snake in the grass cheat that I don't want as a POTUS, I understand why she won't accept the challenge. She has everything to lose and nothing to gain from it.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

She is attempting to further usurp the democratic nomination by painting Bernie as irrelevant and unworthy.

A presidential candidate who knocks back a formal request to debate by another candidate, during the primaries and beyond in an election year is clearly scared of their opponent and has a real fear of loosing. So I understand why she doesn't want to debate the better person and be further shown up as dodgy.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 08:31 PM
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She desperately needs to save and nurture her frail voice for the convention speech.




posted on May, 23 2016 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

She's no fun.

Sanders should invite Trump to debate. That would be fun.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

She has everything to lose and nothing to gain from it.

I think that this is the way they see it. However, I think she still needs to do a lot to earn the support of Sanders voters. A good debate between them, one that speaks clearly to the issues of both candidates, one that would demonstrate her commonality with the more progressive side of the party might help in her sagging numbers. I would love to see her in a truly progressive debate. Even though it is FOX that is presenting it, I still think that between the two, they could make a case for a more progressive agenda.

However she will not. And the excuse to focus on Trump as she is assured the nomination only serves demonstrate how she continually marginalizes what now appears to be the majority of her would be supporters.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: Profusion

I hope to see the Clinton vs Sanders saga come to a close with her in prison and Sanders vs trump however the result to me is meaningless.

It is clear that Sanders has more clout than both hillary or trump.

He is and always has been an independent, he was smart enough to try and run democrat and all it has done is pointed out the glaringly obvious fact that neo-liberals are no different than neo-cons.

I have my legit concerns with Sanders and some of his stances however it is the movement behind him that is important and it unites people across the political spectrum.

We can sit here and argue about how scary it is to have a socialist in power who is going to increase the debt all day long, the truth is the debt is going to go up regardless of who is elected, the important thing is who is to benefit from the increase and it is clear that Sanders will work for and answer to the people.

It is looking like we will have 3 people to vote for this election and I believe that Sanders will take it if that is the case!
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posted on May, 23 2016 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Hillary is and always has been loyal to polling numbers and stats. If tomorrow there was a poll that said people like wearing hats with fish on them she'd be on TV with a Tuna on her head like a coon skin cap.

Right now I think she's probably running around and yelling at her staff because Trump is pulling ahead of her in the polls. She must also know that in the Polls Trump beats her and yet Sanders Beats Trump. That says a lot right there. Because if Sanders beats Trump in the polls and Trump beats Hillary in the Polls then how the hell is Hillary beating Sanders now??? Think about that. It's like the "Paper Rock Scissors" of elections and that seems a bit rigged to me.

Which means she's now planning up some scheme or toolbox of dirty tricks for Trump, while hoping to ride through the primary win with her already paid for in blood corrupted cronies rigging the election for her so she'll beat Sanders. The system was rigged for her it's obvious. In at least one state where Sanders won she actually got more delegates!! Explain that sh*t!!

Anyway, she's just going to ride it out and take this extra time to plot how to take out the Donald while ignoring Sanders all together out of fear. I'd hate to be part of her staff right now. Can you imagine the screeching cackle of her commanding everyone to work harder to make her president blasting in your ear every 5 minutes!! I'd shoot myself.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 09:02 PM
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If Hillary cannot handle Fox news how is she supposed to handle ____________________


isn't that what the democrats said about Trump when he wouldn't do a fox news debate....



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: thinline
If Hillary cannot handle Fox news how is she supposed to handle ____________________


isn't that what the democrats said about Trump when he wouldn't do a fox news debate....


Yep, and it still holds true for both of them too.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I give you thumbs up for that one. Both her and Bill sound like they could croak at any minute.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Profusion

She's no fun.

Sanders should invite Trump to debate. That would be fun.

Sanders was interviewed on Fox . One of the best ever. Bernie SOUNDED Presidential. Betchya Hillary watched it as well. She is terrified to do something like that.Sanders would take Hillary's lunch money and make her like it.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: elementalgrove

You won't have Sanders as a choice unless he wins the democratic nomination by a miracle. He can not run as an independent. However you will have a libertarian candidate but you seem to not realize that.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 09:21 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Profusion

She's no fun.

Sanders should invite Trump to debate. That would be fun.


That would actually be awesome for everyone but Hillary. So I love the idea!



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: elementalgrove

You won't have Sanders as a choice unless he wins the democratic nomination by a miracle. He can not run as an independent. However you will have a libertarian candidate but you seem to not realize that.


I am quite aware of the libertarian party and I align myself with most of their philosophy, however this current society has been so heavily brainwashed through social engineering that we can barely fathom the true notions of liberty.

It begins with the basics of mature evolution upon this planet and that is of empathy and compassion, the road to liberty begins with taking care of one another.

The momentum behind Sanders indicates this, when we look back to Ron Paul we see that their efforts to silence a presidential candidate can be accomplished, with Sanders all of the voices that have been silenced are shouting and there is no end in sight.


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posted on May, 23 2016 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: elementalgrove

Sorry. I wasn't sure if you just left them out because you weren't aware or the other reason which is of course the rest of America is unaware and doesn't care.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 09:49 PM
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That old witch needs to go. Old fatass in a pantsuit

Put Americas choces up against each other

Sanders VS Trump

Socialisim VS Capitalisim

Let America choose!

We are tired of elite political families. We are tired of Career politicians



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 10:31 PM
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John oliver can say it better than I. youtu.be...

Bernie is over. Republicans are who they are and dems need to work on somethings. Hill will be on the hill. And the same ones that have been hating her will continue. Progressive means progress one why or another not bernie sanders and damn sure not trump.

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posted on May, 23 2016 @ 11:34 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

She has debated him nine times since last October. I don't think so.



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