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The Power of Magnets to heal - my personal story...

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posted on May, 23 2016 @ 08:38 AM
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Greetings fellow travelers,

This is my first thread, created after reading the first negative response in another thread regarding the power of magnets to heal.

I am a walking testament to the power of magnets to heal.

First, understand, I am not claiming that magnets can or will heal everything, nor am I making any claims of how they work. My understanding is that their power, in a general sense, is in their ability to do two things when properly applied: reduce inflammation, and stimulate blood circulation/flow. It is precisely this understanding that lead to my deciding to give them a try.

Here is my story - believe it or not, but I have the MRI scans, insurance claim, Chiropractor bills, and my wife's testimony (she was not a believer and was mad at me initially for spending the $120 or so for the kit) to back it up.

I first learned about using magnets for health during a class held at a Health Expo in Atlanta Georgia probably 25 years ago. It was very interesting to me, but I had no health issues at the time, and so never pursued their use other than as an intellectual exercise. One of the things that stuck with me was the claim by the older gentleman that put on the seminar was the title of his presentation: 'Magnets can cure, and magnets can kill.'. I then 'forgot' about them.

Fast forward to December of 2012, I was involved in a head-on collision (headed to work early in the morning, pulling out/turning left of our subdivision, pitch black (no street lights there), and whammo, head-on collision with someone half asleep who had pulled out of an apartment complex about 1/4 mile up the road and forgotten to turn his lights on (still don't know how he could see anything). So, I pulled out right into him because I simply couldn't see him coming.

First few days I had no problems, and was almost ready to sign the insurance waiver (they'd been bugging me to do this since the day after the accident), when, about 4 days after the event, huge, deep bruises appeared where the seat-belt impact had been, and I started getting sore... then sorer, and sorer, and then pain spread to my neck and right shoulder and arm, when finally, about 7-10 days after the accident, I was in agony. The pain was worst when I laid my head down on a pillow, preventing me from getting anything even approaching restful sleep, with a pronounced aching pain in the neck and down my right arm during the day (but not nearly as bad as at night).

Chiropractor said it was whiplash, and an MRI confirmed 3 bulging disks. During my meeting with my chiropractor after my MRI, he told me that chiro treatments would help, but that there was no viable alternatives for treatment. We discussed going to a spine specialist for possible surgery, but he said that kind of surgery is extremely risky and will often make things worse.

His next words were devastating. He said that I would be living the rest of my life under 'pain management'.

I simply couldn't imagine living the rest of my life with this kind of pain, so I spent the next 4+ months taking all kinds of supplements (most that were supposed to help with reducing inflammation), and going to the chiro 3-4 times per week, with the bills piling up, and with only very little and very temporary pain relief (never lasting more than an hour or so). The only way I could get any sleep at all sleep was by taking a prescription anti-inflammatory (I first tried massive doses of serrapeptase and other natural anti-inflammatories with no real help). I'm also a recovered alcoholic/drug addict (now almost 30 years clean), but for the first time in my life, I actually tried some prescription pain meds. I don't remember what it was, but I hated the way it made me feel, and it didn't help much with the pain, so I stopped taking it.

During some of my chiro sessions, he sometimes would casually comment that 'what we are trying to do is reduce the inflammation and increase circulation', and every time he said that, little bells went off in my head but I didn't know why. Finally, one time he said it, I remembered that class I took on magnets that claimed that those two things are what magnets are supposed to do. By this time, I was close to the end of my rope, as my wife will attest. I had never experienced sleep deprivation before, but researching it, I learned a lot, and it isn't pretty.

Remember, at this point, I had been going to the chiro almost every other day for months with basically no pain relief, and even with the naproxin (sp?) - a prescription anti-inflammatory - I'd wake up in pain numerous times during the night (5? 10? more?). I was miserable. Well, that is an understatement, it was more like borderline psychotic and/or suicidal - and getting worse every day.

Anyway, I immediately ordered/overnighted a kit that had specific instructions for whiplash (there are tons of sources online), and the next evening when I got home from work (6 or 7pm), we (wife and I) put the magnets on according to the little diagram (4 magnets, 3 with north pole to the body, and one with south pole to the body). I went to bed about 3 hours later.

First night - probably had 50% pain reduction, and got the best nights sleep I'd had since the onset of the pain.

The next morning felt better than I had since the pain onset, but there was still a little pain.

By that night (the day after first putting on the magnets)... I had ZERO pain. I mean *none*. I couldn't believe it (and neither could my wife, or my chiropractor - and to this day he still tries to take the credit for it). I slept through the night, and woke up still pain free.

This lasted the entire time I wore the magnets.

The treatment protocol was 10 days with 4 magnets on (3 with north pole to the body, one with south pole to the body), then I removed the one with the south pole to the body, and another 10 days with just the 3 with the north pole to the body. They said it was not uncommon to have to go through this protocol multiple times if you have a serious injury, and it also depended on how much time elapsed between the injury and beginning treatment.

After the first 20 day protocol, I was actually reluctant to remove the magnets, fearing the worst.

I remained pain free for a couple of weeks, then it started back up, very slowly, and got worse and worse, until I decided to do it again.

This time it wasn't quite as dramatic/immediate - it took probably 3 or 4 days for the pain to go completely away, but, it did go away.

This time, in experimentation mode, I waited until I'd been pain free for 3 days, and stopped wearing them. This time, I remained pain free for about 3 or 4 weeks, when it again started coming back. I repeated the process (wore the magnets until the pain had been gone for 3 or 4 days then removed them).

I remained completely pain free for over 2 YEARS, until I was in another accident (friend driving rear-ended someone, airbags deployed), and had to use the magnets again, but again, it only took about 4 days for total relief, which brings us to the present.

For me, this was as close to a miracle as it gets. I just wish I'd remembered about them sooner, but at least I'll never forget about them again.




posted on May, 23 2016 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

S&F!

Is it against the T&C's to tell us the brand you used? I'll use the googles for "healing magnets", but would rather try what worked for you.

My body is roached from riding/racing dirt bikes and my line of work. I'm not a fan of pain pills and need some forms of pain management, other than the "suck it up, buttercup" method I've been using.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: KawRider9
My body is roached from riding/racing dirt bikes and my line of work.


I had no idea exotic dancing was so rough on the body.

On topic, may dad was a fan of magnets, he felt it helped him cope with his pain. I cannot attest to their actual affect on his pain or if it was just a placebo.




edit on 23-5-2016 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer becasue he left it in the ladies room



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 09:01 AM
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Thank you so much. My son wrapped his car around a tree many years ago and has suffered since. I am researching this as we speak.
I very much appreciate your story. My son has had surgeries, pain management etc. Nothing has helped.. He has two small boys and his youngest son (1 yr) he can barely pick up.
If this works, your story will have helped in a huge way. Thank you again!!



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 10:00 AM
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You also did a lot of other things in that time. You focus on the magnets because they have this 'mystic healing power' connotation to you. But as you say, you were also getting other sorts of treatments as well. And your body has a lot of ability to just heal itself.

The problem with this is, that it's like every other anecdote. To YOU, it's obvious - the magnets did it. To ME, I don't know what if any of the entire melange of things fixed it. The only way TO know is to do double blind testing, with limited variables, where neither the experimenter or experimentee know whether test block A233 is a magnet or a lump of iron. Or north or south oriented. And then pick the truth out of the statistics.

In that sort of test, magnets generally come out as not defeating the null hypothesis, as we say in experimental design. That is, the assumption (the null hypothesis) is that magnets do nothing. And in order to prove that wrong, the experiment design has to have sufficient power - another term from stats - to actually tell you anything, and the data have to show an effect exceeding a certain limit.

That doesn't happen in most properly designed tests for magnets. I think there might have been one that showed any effect at all. In terms of physics, that makes sense, because in order to influence chemical bonds and the like, you have to have the sorts of magnetic field strengths you'd get near a magnetar. Garden variety neodymiums just don't do a lot to chemical reactions.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 10:04 AM
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thank you for sharing this story.

For some people it will probably be just another anecdote unfortunately, but to some others it can be a lot of help to try magnets and see how it works for them.

It is obvious science is so behind on few things that it is too amazing or silly to even consider the power of magnetic healing and therefore don't expect much support about it here...

In my opinion it just goes to show, that scientific observations based on our current methods is very lacking or maybe even false on some principles, if they cannot figure out why and how simple magnets can heal various human conditions...



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: UniFinity if they cannot figure out why and how simple magnets can heal various human conditions...


How do you know they do? Maybe you're just deluding yourself. There's only one way to know, and that's to test them properly. Some people think crystals do the same thing, and they don't do squat either. Nor does Reiki.
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posted on May, 23 2016 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: Bedlam

hah, in your opinion current test and methods are ok?
I disagree as I have different experiences, but thanks for sharing.
I see no value for testing by old or current materialistic methods based on our five senses, when they want to detect a bit more subtle forces...I know Reiki is a real thing from regular meditation, but it is a new age concept, taken from old systems.

well I am not the only one, there are many people who had some effect or experience from things you mentioned.

in your opinion this is than just a placebo most of the time?
well even if it is all just placebo, than this is very powerful force and should be observed and researched...but I bet it is not just a placebo most of the times.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: UniFinity

I see no value for testing by old or current materialistic methods based on our five senses, when they want to detect a bit more subtle forces...


I generally interpret "subtle forces" as "pure woo". The issue is, you can't detect it, you can't measure it, you can't quantify it. If you can't positively tell if it's there or not, nor how you're affecting it if it IS there, you can't say what if anything you're doing to something that may or may not be there.

"Materialistic methods" use a lot more than five senses.



I know Reiki is a real thing from regular meditation, but it is a new age concept, taken from old systems.


Sadly, repeated testing shows if you send in someone who says "I'm going to give you a Reiki treatment" and just waves their hands around and goes "ommm" you get exactly, EXACTLY the same effect that a "Reiki master" gets.

That generally means Reiki is a new word for "bullcookies".



well I am not the only one, there are many people who had some effect or experience from things you mentioned.


Confirmation bias is a powerful thing to beings with stochastic processing systems and senses.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: UniFinity
a reply to: Bedlam

hah, in your opinion current test and methods are ok?


Would you mind explaining what methodological issues you have with randomized double blind placebo control studies?



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 10:44 AM
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I remember hearing from a movie with Edward Norton Robert DeNiro, and Mila Jovovich's character says magnets can remove toxins and that she sleeps on one every night.

And that they have magnets for your shoes that do the same.

Very holistic and probably under researched treatment due to lack of profitability.


But the earth's magnetic field repels radiation that would kill us so it has one proven medical benefit at least. There has got to be more medical uses for magnets, it just sounds right to me.


People will always tell you it is psychosomatic but if you were in that much pain and now aren't then you know it worked.


Congrats on the 30 years sober, I can tell you are telling the truth about that because no addict today would forget the name of the pain pills and not get a monthly script.


I had a thing with the oc's when they first came out that got bad. I'm better now.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

I would like to know the brand also.

pm me?



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 11:10 AM
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I'm not trying to be rude, just pointing out one fact - Naproxen isn't a prescription medication. They may have had you on a 'prescription dose' but the medication itself is OTC and readily available at your local 7-11, often sold under the brand Aleve. Other than that, thanks for sharing your story. Magnets are currently be used in clinical trials to treat all sorts of mental disorders and the fact that they can be bioactive has been well established in the medical literature. Then again, I'm in America where even honey (the most widely used wound care in the world) is considered to not be medicinal for the most part (some advances have been made...)



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: TonyBravada
I'm not trying to be rude, just pointing out one fact - Naproxen isn't a prescription medication.

No problem, and thanks for gently pointing it out - it was a prescription strength version of Naproxin, I do remember learning later that there is an over the counter version as well. I was told to be very careful to take it only as prescribed. This was what was initially prescribed, and what I fell back to when I couldn't take the pain meds any more.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: Bedlam

common ignorance is also another thing which comes with strong bias as modern science is showing, when it is so sticking to materialism!

Tesla was right:
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."

This is all connected!

i think that krillin photography is real, this fellow is from my country and I know a bit about it, and it is true, they were even having a season when I was still a student in university...
That is at least some evidence of a bit more subtle world as far as I am concerned if you want something we have available right at the moment...well there is probably a lot other stuff also, for instance the area of parapsychology which was shut down for some reason, even if there were a LOT of interesting results...

Also maybe magnetism in some form, may just be the answer for manipulation some of subtle energies. And this as far as those healings goes, exactly what is happening in my humble opinion and therefore it is not detectable with our current observations.

and you say something about confirmation bias...

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot false informations or quacks out there, but that does not meant everything is....if you have so high standards, than science also fails you know,
quacks are everywhere : )

when we stop asking questions, we have stopped learning and I think there should be more questions about magnetic healing and magnetism in general.

But since we are talking about magnets, they are perfect example aren't they?
as far as physical universe goes, they are there but we cannot detect them with our 5 senses.
if magnets are such a force, and we don't know everything about them, why do you think there are not other similar forces in existence all around us?

Is it not logical to think there may still be some unexplained forces, to get measured by science and its effects on the body and nature?

look, I don't want to change your opinion about anything, this is as far as I will go.

: )

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posted on May, 23 2016 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: tanstaafl
Is it against the T&C's to tell us the brand you used? I'll use the googles for "healing magnets", but would rather try what worked for you.

I don't know if it is or not, but I'll go ahead and post it - if it is removed by a Mod, PM me and I'll be happy to share...

I bought mine from www.biomagscience.net - specifically, this kit.

Disclaimer: I confirmed the link before posting, and didn't remember this being the case, but apparently they do have an affiliate program. That said, I don't participate or benefit in any way. I just know what the magnets did for me.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: GetHyped

deeper investigation about what triggers it and how it works inside the body should be made.

everyone PLEASE look at that and wonder : )

it is a very awesome tedx talk about placebo!


love and mindfulness.
best healers imho.

... well and magnets maybe also, but there is not enough evidence for that now : )

but anyway, if placebo can be such a strong healer, than there is obviously a lot we don't know about.
Why it works for some and not others?
what triggers it?
is it some kind of attraction with other subtle energies maybe even under some conditions?

but this are hard questions from current understanding to even ask and talk about, a lot of people in science likes to think that there is not more to reality than we observe with 5 senses, ... even while magnets being outside as explained above in my post already...
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posted on May, 23 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: Bedlam
You also did a lot of other things in that time.

None of which helped, as I said.


You focus on the magnets because they have this 'mystic healing power' connotation to you.

No - I focus on the magnets, because they worked. I didn't go into this with any pre-conceived notion, as you appear to be all too willing to ass-u-me.


But as you say, you were also getting other sorts of treatments as well.

Again - none of which worked - AT ALL. ZERO (or approaching zero) pain relief for 4+ months - until I tried the magnets.


And your body has a lot of ability to just heal itself.

Yes, absolutely, but sometimes it needs some help - in fact, I would say that nothing that modern medicine does 'heals' anything, it merely 'helps', by creating the conditions whereby the body is able to heal itself. Apparently mine was unable to heal itself until it got some assistance in reducing the inflammation and getting more blood flowing to the damaged area, and I'm sure the supplements I was taking then were able to actually help (I was taking things like MSM, hydrolysed collagen, etc).


The problem with this is, that it's like every other anecdote. To YOU, it's obvious - the magnets did it. To ME, I don't know what if any of the entire melange of things fixed it. The only way TO know is to do double blind testing, with limited variables, where neither the experimenter or experimentee know whether test block A233 is a magnet or a lump of iron. Or north or south oriented. And then pick the truth out of the statistics.

You are wrong, friend. The relief was as close to 'instantaneous' as can be for something like this - 24 hours from terminal agony to pain free - and it was reproducible as well - or did you miss the parts where the pain came back multiple times, and each time, the magnets brought fast relief.

Sometimes you might consider stepping back, and just admitting that science doesn't know and hasn't defined everything yet (and never will imnsho) - and that just because something doesn't have some expensive placebo controlled double blind studies to 'prove' it works, it doesn't preclude the possibility of it working.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: UniFinity
a reply to: GetHyped

deeper investigation about what triggers it and how it works inside the body should be made.


Unfortunately, that didn't answer my question in the slightest.



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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that is all I will give you about that.



well... I added a few questions after edit, sorry to not post it sooner.

but It is the same to me what you think and believe and vice versa.

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