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Understanding Jewish Influence

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posted on Jan, 15 2005 @ 01:04 AM
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Greetings,

Many of you have probably heard over and over again of that supposed so called "Zionist Conspiracy" or "Jewish Conspiracy" and so forth. Well, Professor Kevin MacDonald www.csulb.edu... from the Department of Psychology at California State University - Long Beach, has decided to study this issue and separate the facts from the fiction. Here is what he has come up with so far:

www.theoccidentalquarterly.com...

www.theoccidentalquarterly.com...

www.theoccidentalquarterly.com...

www.csulb.edu...

www.csulb.edu...

www.vdare.com...

All of these papers are very academic/scientific in nature, I myself have a hard time understanding his arguments, so I would appreciate any feedback.

Thank you.

[edit on 15-1-2005 by Ludwig Beethoven]




posted on Jan, 16 2005 @ 01:15 PM
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Hi,

I was looking for some reviews of Professor Kevin MacDonald's research by other authors, and found the following:


www.amren.com...
home.comcast.net...
home.comcast.net...

Lots of excerpts from his books were provided. I now have a little better understanding of his thesis.

Regards.



posted on Jan, 16 2005 @ 01:51 PM
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Hi,

I read an article by MENSA member and internationally known author/scholar John Bryant. He uses some of MacDonald's ideas, but does independent research as well. Being Jewish himself, I found his insite to be very interesting, esp. because I think he is more willing to be fair, truthful, and not too harsh unneedlessly. He even wrote an article where he mentions the positive contributions of Jews to the world.

Anyway, here is the article I read: www.thebirdman.org...

Regards.



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 03:40 PM
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Come on!!!??? The "Zionist conspiracy"!?

Did you know that this theory was established by the Nazi's! And was incorporated in Neo-Nazism and Ku Klux Klan!

Are you completely insane!



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 04:08 PM
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The Zionist theory was devloped long before the Nazis because when reading about Stalin and Lennin there is refrence there also. Henry Ford was big on it in the early 1900s.



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by factfinder38
The Zionist theory was devloped long before the Nazis because when reading about Stalin and Lennin there is refrence there also. Henry Ford was big on it in the early 1900s.


Yep, here's a PDF of his book, the international Jew:
www.solargeneral.com...



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by Tordenskiold

Did you know that this theory was established by the Nazi's! And was incorporated in Neo-Nazism and Ku Klux Klan!


Hmmm. Interesting. Care to back that up with any evidence?

Ludwig -

Here's an interesting read on the subject, which is a tricky one to research IMO because 1) many people tend to become emotionally overwrought when discussing, and 2) many people twist the word jewish into meaning whatever fits their purposes.

Good luck with your research!



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 04:23 PM
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the zionist conspiracy is a reference to the so called protocols, no?

someone is actually studying them? they've been proven to be propoganda.

"Serge Nilus, a little-known Czarist official in Moscow, edited several editions of the Protocols, each with a different account of how he discovered the document. In his 1911 edition Nilus claimed that his source had stolen the document from (a non-existent) Zionist headquarters in France. Other "editors" of the Protocols maintained that the document was read at the First Zionist Congress held in 1897 in Basel, Switzerland.

Note: According to reputable scholars, including Prof. Norman Cohn in his noted book, Warrant for Genocide, the world-control myth was actually lifted from a 19th century French politcal satire in which the alleged plotters weren’t even Jewish."


www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 05:03 PM
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This i partly what i found in your so called source:

"Jewish domination of the early 20th century prostitution trade, including the United States, Argentina, Poland, Germany, South Africa, Russia, Austria, Brazil and other countries; Jewish control of three-quarters of the prostitution trade in New York City and Chicago; modern Jewish dismissal of such historical facts as Nazi-type hate propaganda; modern Israel's importance in the international prostitution trade today."

-This is a bloody lie where does this guy get this from? I can tell you that I work at the Institute of History, at the University of Oslo. And the so called facts that this man presents are undocumented!


Further I found:
"...the undercurrent of Chosen People racism in the idea that murdered Jews are more important than anyone else murdered; modern Jewish defamation of Poles, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Russians and other Eastern Europeans; Jewish exclusionism and separatism in pre-World War II Eastern Europe; the lack of Jewish resistance to the Nazis; Jewish collaborators with German fascists; Jewish domination of postwar communist secret police organizations and concentration camps; Jewish double standards for World War II era history: one standard for Jews, and another for non-Jews; mainstream Jewry's resistance to the facts of World War II-era history."

Jews did NOT collaborate with the Nazis!Why would Hitler kill 6 million of his collaborators?

The reason for lack of resistance is simple. If your ethnic group consists of 5 - 10 % of the total population in a country, and around 57 % of the population regard you as an enemy, threatens you, smashes your windows and beats you to a pulp. Your instinct is to avoid confrontation, is it not?

The Jewish do not considder themselves as any more worth than other humanbeeings more, than a huge part of American society feels about other cultures around the world.

The fact is that most of society is jelous of the jews. Because they take care of eachother, they are hardworking and they encourage eachother. We however have a tendency to beat eachother down, live isolated and many of us feel no responsibility for eachother. "An increasing number of Orthodox women have found a niche in Atlanta creating businesses that assist other Orthodox women dress both modestly and fashion-ably." This is a clear sign of jewish ingenuity and entrepeneurial sense.

As a last comment I wish this Source of yours would show where he got the information from, ansd tell all of us at the historical institutes of the world what documents he gets his information from.

On the frontpage he clearly shows his jelous tendencies toward the jewish community.

[edit on 17-1-2005 by Tordenskiold]



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Tordenskiold

This i partly what i found in your so called source:

"Jewish domination of the early 20th century prostitution trade, including the United States, Argentina, Poland, Germany, South Africa, Russia, Austria, Brazil and other countries; Jewish control of three-quarters of the prostitution trade in New York City and Chicago; modern Jewish dismissal of such historical facts as Nazi-type hate propaganda; modern Israel's importance in the international prostitution trade today."

-This is a bloody lie where does this guy get this from? I can tell you that I work at the Institute of History, at the University of Oslo. And the so called facts that this man presents are undocumented!


I don't have much trouble believing the prostitution allegation.
Jewish persons are heavily involved in the sex industry today, especially in the pornography industry.



Secular Jews play a disproportionate role throughout the sex industry.

In his 1992 book "Oh Canada! Oh Quebec! Requiem for a Divided Country," Mordacai Richler writes about Jew hatred in Quebec: The late Abbe Lionel Groulx, patron saint of the sovereignty advocates, is revealed as an admirer of Mussolini who wrote in 1954 that Jews have "a natural passion for money" and could "be found behind all businesses, all shady enterprises, all the pornography operations. . . ."

Leading modern Jewish pornographers include Ron Braverman, John Bone, Wesley Emerson, Paul Fishbein, Herbert Feinberg AKA Mickey Fine, Hank Weinstein, Lenny Friedlander, Bobby Hollander, Rubin Gottesman, Fred Hirsch and his children Steve and Marci, Paul "Norman" Apstein, Steve Orenstein, Jack Richmond (Legend CEO), Theodore Rothstein, Reuben and David Sturman, Ron Sullivan, Jerome Tanner, Armand Weston, Sam and Mitch Weston (Spinelli).

Jews accounted for most of the leading male performers of the 1970s and '80s. Hebrew studs include Buck Adams, Bobby Astyr, (Bobby Charles) R. Bolla (Robert Kerman), Jerry Butler (Paul Siderman), Seymore Butts (Adam Glasser), Roger Caine (Al Levitsky), David Christopher (Bernie Cohen), Steve Drake, Jesse Eastern, Jamie Gillis (Jamie Gurman), Ron Jeremy (Hyatt), Michael Knight, William Margold, Ashley Moore (Steve Tucker), David Morris, George Payne, Ed Powers (Mark Arnold aka Mark Krinski), Harry Reems (Herbert Streicher), Dave Ruby, Herschel Savage (Harvey Cowen), Carter Stevens (Mal Warub), Marc Stevens, Paul Thomas (Phil Tobias), Marc Wallice (Marc Goldberg), Randy West (Andy Abrams) and Jack Wrangler.

A Jewish male performer writes Luke: "Why are most of the men that do porno Jewish? JEWISH MOTHERS! ......


The article is much longer than just the text I quoted but I won't post a link because of images on the site that's hosting the articlle.

If you want to see the rest of it, do a Google search for one of the sentances I posted. You should get a link to the article on Luke Ford.



[edit on 17-1-2005 by AceOfBase]



posted on Jan, 17 2005 @ 05:53 PM
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It is kind of a silly argument because Yes there is a number of Jewish people who would love to control the world but they are fighting the Catholics, Muslums Athiest and about 100 other groups that would like to control the world also.



posted on Jan, 26 2005 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Tordenskiold
Come on!!!??? The "Zionist conspiracy"!?

Did you know that this theory was established by the Nazi's! And was incorporated in Neo-Nazism and Ku Klux Klan!

Are you completely insane!


So you believe that Professor Kevin MacDonald suffers from a a psychiatric disorder? What type of disorder? Is it hereditary or environment-caused? What are some cures for it? And should we be concerned that California State University has a Psychologist Professor who may have a definable psychiatric disorder?

Regards.



posted on Jan, 26 2005 @ 04:43 PM
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Does anyone have some reasons why the Israeli stock market has DOUBLED in the past 20 months??



posted on Jan, 26 2005 @ 05:00 PM
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Does anyone want to clear up the "Zion" vs. "Sion" controversy? These are Biblical terms. The name of this thread should be "Understanding the Influence of Money". It is a Stereotype that every Banker in the World is a "Jew". Judaism is a Religion - there is only ONE Human Race!!! We are free to Choose what Religion we want to Practice or None at all. There are Christian Bankers & Jewish Bankers & Judeo-Christian Bankers & even
Pagan Bankers & Occultist Bankers & Secular Bankers!!! You know how the Saying goes "Money Talks & B.S. Walks"!!!



posted on Jan, 26 2005 @ 05:01 PM
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"The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country."
~ Sen. William Fulbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee, 10-7-73 On CBS' Face the Nation

"Israel controls the United States Senate."
~ Sen. William Fulbright

"The most effective component of the Jewish connection is probably that of media control."
~ Jewish American scholar Alfred M. Lilienthal

"Today, though barely three percent of the nation's population is Jewish, close to half its billionaires are Jews. The chief executive officers of the three major television networks and the four largest film studios are Jews,"
~ Ben Ginsberg, a jewish author


"Instead of agitating for war, the Jewish groups in this country should be opposing it in every possible way, for they will be among the first to feel its consequences. The greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio and our government."
~ Charles Lindbergh Sept. 11, 1941



posted on Jan, 26 2005 @ 05:15 PM
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God and Money. "No one can serve two masters. He will either hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon."



posted on Jan, 26 2005 @ 05:15 PM
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"there is only ONE Human Race"

Sorry, but I believe you are wrong.

We're not all the same.

The evidence shall be seen in your works and deeds.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits"
~ Matthew 7:16

Peace, Mark



posted on Jan, 26 2005 @ 05:18 PM
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hmm... Where to start. Judaism is not a race. If it were, then you're all talking about yourselves. All of you have some Jewish ancestors. The thinkig of jews as a race did begin with the Nazis. Before then, people were fine as long as the converted. As for the so called "Jewish Domination," I think it started with the fact that, unlike other cultures, Jewish culture encouraged learning of the outside world. Because many Jews were literate during the middle ages, they became scribes and did other high profiled jobs. Speaking as a Jew, I happen to know that Mr. MacDonald's reaserch is wrong. Saying that all Jews are xenophobic, have an ingroup-outgroup morality etc... is like saying that all Germans are Nazis and that all americans are in the KKK. Besides, his quotes were from extremists.



posted on Jan, 26 2005 @ 05:21 PM
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AceOfBase, thank you for that information, I saved it and will add it to my file archives.

I believe a characteristic of the 'certain' bloodlines which pollute our minds with their advanced technologies and create a decadant and immoral society is their large 'members'.

You are so right... Ron Jeremy always gave me the creeps... yes, I use to watch the vids and saw how he teased the women with his 'member'.



posted on Jan, 26 2005 @ 05:27 PM
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Simon, if you allow this type of discussion to take place... a discussion not full of hate, but one of sharing facts, knowledge and information in order to discover the truth... You are alright in my book and I wish to apologize for thinking this place was not in search of the truth due to your MODS censoring my posts over a year ago.

Keep up the good fight and the future will be a better place for humanity.

Peace, Mark



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