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Clinton Delegate Lead Down to 194, Even as Dramatic Miscounting of Delegates

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posted on May, 21 2016 @ 12:58 PM
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We keep hearing from MSM and the HRC machine, that Hilley will be the Democrats presidential nominee. The race is much closer than the Hilley fans would like you to believe. Hilley's lead is down to 194 pledged delegates!


Clinton Delegate Lead Down to 194, Even as Dramatic Miscounting of Delegates


1,299 to 1,105.

That's the "insurmountable" delegate lead Hillary Clinton has over Bernie Sanders.

And there are still 1,674 pledged delegates yet to be awarded in twenty primaries and caucuses to be held over the next two months; scores of up-for-grabs delegates yet to be decided via state and county Democratic conventions; and hundreds and hundreds of super-delegates to be wooed by both candidates in Philadelphia this summer -- with not a single one of them having officially committed themselves to anybody.


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posted on May, 21 2016 @ 01:02 PM
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Hopefully that lead will get lower and lower the closer to the convention



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: AlaskanDad
We keep hearing from MSM and the HRC machine, that Hilley will be the Democrats presidential nominee. The race is much closer than the Hilley fans would like you to believe. Hilley's lead is down to 194 pledged delegates!


Clinton Delegate Lead Down to 194, Even as Dramatic Miscounting of Delegates


1,299 to 1,105.

That's the "insurmountable" delegate lead Hillary Clinton has over Bernie Sanders.

And there are still 1,674 pledged delegates yet to be awarded in twenty primaries and caucuses to be held over the next two months; scores of up-for-grabs delegates yet to be decided via state and county Democratic conventions; and hundreds and hundreds of super-delegates to be wooed by both candidates in Philadelphia this summer -- with not a single one of them having officially committed themselves to anybody.


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Denial of factual evidence reflects poorly on your intellect.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 01:54 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

Sadly, people are just being duped.

This epic battle has been staged between Hillary and Bernie to give the impression that she will have won a tough but fair fight.

Behind closed doors, Hillary and Bernie are laughing at all of us.

My opinion only.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Dude

Absolutely no one believes it's a close race

Only Bernie zealots do

Hillary's lead over Bernie is bigger than any lead Obama had over Hillary in 08



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: muse7

I said it gives the impression of a tough but fair fight.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 02:07 PM
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originally posted by: muse7
a reply to: DBCowboy

Dude

Absolutely no one believes it's a close race

Only Bernie zealots do

Hillary's lead over Bernie is bigger than any lead Obama had over Hillary in 08


Thanks! When it came to how close the race was, the record was not clear.

Much appreciation to you for correcting it.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: muse7

I believe it's a close race. Very close.

As long as the nomination hinges on the superdelegates...Bernie has a real chance.

Even if Hillary is recommended for indictment but not indicted, the superdelegates have reason to change their support for the good of the party.

In fact, Bernie's poll numbers against Trump vs. Hillary's are reason enough for an excuse to switch their support...for the good of the party, and all that.

I say that and I'm not even a Bernie supporter.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

Hi AlaskanDad. I believe the figures in your OP are from this HuffPo article dated 17/18 April 2016.

According to a Google search, quoting the AP, the total pledged delegates are:
Clinton 1768 (leads by 274)
Sanders 1494

Or, Clinton 1771, Sanders 1499, if you go by Nate Silver's numbers. (272 lead by Hillary)

She has a 270+ pledged delegate lead, which is NOT insurmountable. Go Bernie.


edit on 5/21/2016 by Olivine because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: AlaskanDad

Sadly, people are just being duped.

This epic battle has been staged between Hillary and Bernie to give the impression that she will have won a tough but fair fight.

Behind closed doors, Hillary and Bernie are laughing at all of us.

My opinion only.


Bernie has lost his way.

Speaking as someone who self-confesses as a "socialist" (though not the kind of authoritarian one gets the picture of on ATS) I refuse to believe anyone who legitimately believes in socialism and socialist values would actively partake in the farce that is the US political system, let alone be elected as a SENATOR of all things.

No, The whole Bernie thing is staged.

I kinda want to believe him, but it's simply not possible.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 02:25 PM
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What really grinds my gears is that this whole circus has really done nothing but cloud people into thinking that one person can change all the important issues that need to be changed.

When all of us are already using the medium in which we COULD ALL ENACT CHANGE through, but we're using it to VOTE for ONE person to make those changes.

Instead of using this same MEDIUM ( OURSELVES ) to call, mail, email, fax, schedule an appt, march around the whitehouse and disrupt tourism and really create change.

But this dog and pony show or should I say clown and comic show has only further angered people for the wrong reasons, distracting them further and leading them away from the very vessel that could actually do some justice.

WE THE PEOPLE create change, not Bernie, not Hilary, Not Trump, WE THE PEOPLE, I say we don't vote, we march, we don't buy, we don't fund and fuel the corruption machine and take back our country.

Stop letting the bathroombill, the he said she said trump hilary crap and whatever else distraction is put up in front of us as if we were some dumb idiot with a shiny thing.

Why do we still push for one when we are the MANY?

Are we really this dumb or do people still not understand that WE THE PEOPLE isn't just a saying,
it's a WEAPON of CHANGE.


one more time,

WE + THE PEOPLE = A VEHICLE FOR CHANGE

If we all marched ( all races, colors, creeds, sexes, ages, incomes, dietary habits, sports teams )
If we all Called
If we all stopped buying all goods for one weekend
If we all emailed
If we all worked together instead of being pitted against one group an another over something stupid
If we all tried harder

We'd take back our country and create a truly futuristic society of equality and functionalism

Are we Americans or American'ts?



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 02:25 PM
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ATS - Fix your double posting vortex bubble.




Delete this duplicate post or rent it out for advertisements and send me some dividends.
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posted on May, 21 2016 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
...let alone be elected as a SENATOR of all things.

No, The whole Bernie thing is staged.

I kinda want to believe him, but it's simply not possible.


Could not agree more.

As a senator, Bernie should know that Congress cannot be trusted to spend money or legislate under his domestic plan.

Makes me think his loyalty is to Congress -- and others that influence Congress -- not the people.

(I had to leave socialism behind because of our corrupt Congress. If we had a transparent Congress that we could be confident in, then I could probably be persuaded to support a lot of socialist policies.)



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 05:37 PM
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Technically all he has to do is prevent Hillary from getting the to the nomination threshold.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 05:42 PM
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Hilley is quite good at politics, she is quite the spin machine!


Hillary's Disingenuous Claim That She's Won 2.5 Million More Votes is Bogus. Here's why


The truth is that using popular vote numbers is a deceptive way to talk about comparing campaigns. An honest candidate would not attempt to do so. Clinton embraces it.


This is not just important in terms of Hillary's misleading claim. Her superdelegates are using the 2.5 million voter difference as an excuse to stay with Hillary. Their excuse is also disingenuous, though I'll give some of them the benefit of the doubt that they are trusting Hillary on the numbers-- a big mistake.

The fact is, there's no easy way to adjust or calculate the numbers in total. But one thing is true. Hillary claim is deceptive and misleading and the mainstream media should be calling her on it.


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posted on May, 21 2016 @ 06:06 PM
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I love how this math works where you don't count the superdelegates who have already pledged to her. Let's just wish them into Bernies coffers.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

Yeah... then first vote goes to Hillary game over. No contest after a first vote win.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 06:10 PM
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Crazy Bernie math going on here.

Clinton - 2,293

Bernie - 1,533

Superdelegates count, they are high office politicians and will not switch to Bernie.

2,383 to win. Clinton NEEDS 90 delegates, and it is over.

However, if Bernie math becomes commonly used, could that apply to my pay rate?



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 08:18 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad
Certainly. Exactly what SHOULD happen . Watch for some more to jump ship as the primaries continue. Also, If Sanders can hang in , she may get a "surprise" if it goes to convention with the super-delegates
Peace.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
I love how this math works where you don't count the superdelegates who have already pledged to her. Let's just wish them into Bernies coffers.

Which may well happen if it goes to convention.



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