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Clinton fury with Sanders grows

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posted on May, 21 2016 @ 12:04 AM
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a reply to: justneo

To be fair that was Harper that bought the jets. What a gongshow that was. I doubt our new government will do much better but here's to hoping.




posted on May, 21 2016 @ 12:08 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

What Bernie is doing is weakening Clinton. It's at the point now where she very well may lose against Trump. If Sanders can take it to a contested convention that's a huge negotiating tool in his favor to become the nominee.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 12:14 AM
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Gentlemen.
You both bring up fair points.

As per the military, the spending will continue as things need to be replaced, upgraded, ect. I have not heard of any candidate suggesting otherwise. Perhaps I have overlooked something?

As per government spending. . . Let's look at the current administration spending in green technologies. How many of those companies have gone belly up with the full support of the Federal government?

I have not supported any military action by my federal government in my life. Including the rush to judgment military action in response to the 9/11 attacks.

Both of you, actually prove my point.
Sanders, as much as I like him, will only continue to bankrupt the USA, were he elected.
He has grandiose plans but no way to pay for them.

Once again, unless I have missed something:
The oldest running has the youngest voters because as we age we understand why his platform and policies are cost prohibitive.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 12:25 AM
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a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Yes equipment needs to be maintained and all that good stuff. I'm talking the money being spent on missiles being dropped every year on fuel for the planes, that money could fund education.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 12:28 AM
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a reply to: Joecanada11
Mmm for some reason I get a felling a new government here ain't going to do anything different


a reply to: randomtangentsrme

I think you've missed the point that there's money the government could be using the fund such things if the government were to take the hand of the citizen rather the the hand of business and thats exactly what Bernie wants to do. Being told it's not going to be able to be funded is only you reading it the news, unless you yourself has crunched the numbers then again I'm in the same boat Im just going by what I read too except our difference is I'm all for a willingness to try and you're set in your ways.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 12:44 AM
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originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Yes equipment needs to be maintained and all that good stuff. I'm talking the money being spent on missiles being dropped every year on fuel for the planes, that money could fund education.


If you don't use the missiles they still have a shelf life and need to be replaced. Same thing for fuel, you cant store it for 30 years with out it going bad.

As per education, my state has it in their constitution that higher education is free. That has not been the case since 1982 and that's on the state not federal level.

So really nothing you are suggesting is in Mr. Sander's power were he to be elected.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 12:50 AM
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originally posted by: justneo
a reply to: Joecanada11
Mmm for some reason I get a felling a new government here ain't going to do anything different


a reply to: randomtangentsrme

I think you've missed the point that there's money the government could be using the fund such things if the government were to take the hand of the citizen rather the the hand of business and thats exactly what Bernie wants to do. Being told it's not going to be able to be funded is only you reading it the news, unless you yourself has crunched the numbers then again I'm in the same boat Im just going by what I read too except our difference is I'm all for a willingness to try and you're set in your ways.



I'm far from set in my ways, I've just experienced the reality of the hope and change nonsense over the last 8 years, and do not see a major party delivering the needs of America today.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 12:51 AM
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originally posted by: MysticPearl
Trump slaughtered any and all comers, 16 in fact, on his way to the nomination and is now sitting back and watching the Democrat slugfest. But as Trump says, "I just win". Yes sir, most certainly do.

Hillary can't beat a socialist from Vermont who didn't have a job until his 40's and can't even stand up straight, or even buy a suit which fits.

Good times.


You do know that hillary Clinton is closer to clinching the democratic nomination than Trump is to securing the republican one? even though Trump is running uncontested basically? lol

Sanders was finished off on Super Tuesday and at this point is just refusing to drop out because it keeps those donations coming in.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 12:54 AM
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a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Bombs and missiles last a very very long time when stored properly in ASPs.

Fuel when stored for a long duration only needs to cycled through filtration to be used.

My first tour over seas was in a 3/5 unit. That is fuel and ammo.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 01:13 AM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

What is the shelf life and what is the rate of new tech?
I see in my own industry (theatre) how quickly technologies advance. I assume it's the same if not more so for weaponry?
We are not disagreeing. I'm just pointing out with our current cascade of technological advancements, there is money to be spent in keeping stock current.
I do not think our government just maintains the status quo, but perhaps I am wrong. I turned down the recruiter from the Marines when he called, so I only have those who have served to tell me otherwise.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 01:18 AM
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I myself think Sanders is betting on a wildcard shot. The email scandal. If the FBI drops a indictment on Hillary before the convention well, it's game over for her no matter what. The super delegates will vote against her if she goes on to the convention and if she loses the first round Bernie gets it in the 2nd. If she withdraws it's all Bernie's.

But, and it's a big one. If the FBI drops an indictment on her after the convention Hillary could be forced to withdraw. And if the Democrats even think about anyone but Bernie then he runs 3rd party.

Bernie has no reason to withdraw.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 01:28 AM
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a reply to: randomtangentsrme

My friend, I would totally agree with you with that, then again I would go further and say it's been longer then just these 8 years. But if you actually watch a full Bernie Sanders rally what you just said flies out the window and the hope comes flooding back. That's if you watch it with an open mind and not any bias from anything you've read in the msm.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 01:36 AM
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a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Shelf life isn't anything in particular.

We pulled 2.75 rockets dated back from Vietnam era and loaded them along with 12 year old hellfires. In peace time they will usually select a pallet of ammo from various bunkers for range exercises. If it went well then that bunker passed.

I had seen some rockets stored that they stopped manufacturing since before I was born, but they were still mission ready.

Aside from that each bunker and pallet of various ordinance is visually inspected and accounted for monthly as well as moved semi annually to keep the area clean and inspect the bunker itself. It is a field in the military called Ammunition specialists that are tasked with doing all of it.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 01:48 AM
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“Unfortunately, he’s choosing the path of burning down the house,” the ally said. “He continues with character attacks against Hillary. He continues with calling the Democratic Party corrupt, and he not only risks damaging Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party but he's currently doing it."
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If it is so easy the damage Hilley, how will she ever hold up to the GOP and Trumps attacks?

Hell Sen Sanders never even brought up her email snafu, I doubt the GOP will be so kind!

Rather than blaming Hilley's troubles on Sen Sanders, maybe the Dem party should face the facts, she is the cause of her own problems.
edit on 21-5-2016 by AlaskanDad because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 02:08 AM
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originally posted by: AlaskanDad

“Unfortunately, he’s choosing the path of burning down the house,” the ally said. “He continues with character attacks against Hillary. He continues with calling the Democratic Party corrupt, and he not only risks damaging Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party but he's currently doing it."
From OP



If it is so easy the damage Hilley, how will she ever hold up to the GOP and Trumps attacks?

Hell Sen Sanders never even brought up her email snafu, I doubt the GOP will be so kind!

Rather than blaming Hilley's troubles on Sen Sanders, maybe the Dem party should face the facts, she is the cause of her own problems.



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posted on May, 21 2016 @ 02:10 AM
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originally posted by: AlaskanDad

“Unfortunately, he’s choosing the path of burning down the house,” the ally said. “He continues with character attacks against Hillary. He continues with calling the Democratic Party corrupt, and he not only risks damaging Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party but he's currently doing it."
From OP



If it is so easy the damage Hilley, how will she ever hold up to the GOP and Trumps attacks?

Hell Sen Sanders never even brought up her email snafu, I doubt the GOP will be so kind!

Rather than blaming Hilley's troubles on Sen Sanders, maybe the Dem party should face the facts, she is the cause of her own problems.



Oh, it's going to be anything but her own self to blame.

Can't wait to hear that bs.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 04:07 AM
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I really love how desperate people are to overlook Hillary's crimes and find things to attack Sanders on, it's hilarious.

Some of the things they cling to are ridiculous...
He's old!
He was unemployed for a while 40 years ago!



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 07:26 AM
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a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn




He was unemployed for a while 40 years ago!


I guess you don't know Bernie quite as well as you think.

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posted on May, 21 2016 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: Joecanada11

the reason the money is there is because we bomb other small nations and steal from them.

Its not hard to have a ton of cash flowing in when your military destroys nations and creates burgeoning markets for US companies to go in and rebuild.

Haliburton was on life support when I was a kid, back in the early 80's. All it took was a Gulf War to make them one of the wealthiest companies on the planet. Wealthy enough to have helped encourage a second gulf war. Cuz money.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 07:44 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

I think that I barely know him at all. I don't really want to, either. I want his ideas to be implemented because they're actually good ideas. The American healthcare system is a disgrace. The corruption is a disgrace. The overblown military spending is a disgrace. The for-profit prison system is a disgrace. Sanders wouldn't be able to fix all this himself, but he doesn't need to. He represents an idea, and you can't lock up, or kill, an idea.

I also cannot believe that an article saying "Bernie Sanders the Bum Who Wants Your Money" is anything less than massively biased.




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