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posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:03 AM
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a reply to: RepealTheLaw

I did misread the article the first time through. Beg pardon. Corrected above.

He was illegally in the facility.

He would be illegally in the facility with equality protections in place.

He is a violent criminal.

The only people claiming that equality for trans* Americans has anything to do with false claims about male and female identity, like yourself, who want to police others genitals. You still won't answer that question: did it strike too close to home?

You're a blatant liar when you include me in a group that wants an open season on children.

You are the one expressing a great interest in violence toward a little girl.

He was there because he is a criminal.

You are bringing it up in this context because you don't mind using a little girl's tragedy to promote your agenda.
edit on 22-5-2016 by Gryphon66 because: Noted

edit on 22-5-2016 by Gryphon66 because: Noted




posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: RepealTheLaw

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Annee

Yes? The majority expects to get undressed around people with the same genitalia as their own.

Not a special right more like a common right

Would you sit in the woods right next to a dude Annee or would you want privacy or would you just get over it


There is no way she would let her child go into a bathroom alone with a grown man following her.


A transgender m/f is not a man, she's a woman. Her brain tells her so.

I don't think a child should ever have to be separated from their caregiver. I fully support a father's right to escort his daughter into the women's restroom (or the men's room).

Maybe its time we make them all Family restrooms.

My grandson is 8. He goes where I go.

And BTW, this all started because of children. Trans children. Yes, there are thousands of them in public school.



Thousands? Where are the facts to backup that bold propaganda statement.


Don't remember where I read that, but I did read it. Only a few have come forward publicly.


So in your interpretation, the end justifies the means and this little girl deserved what she got because a parent wasn't there? So the mom is to blame.. Got it! So lets say mom was in there with the 9 year old and both were murdered because it further enraged the lunatic because he was challenged?


Nice twisting. There have always been predators, there will always be predators. Isn't the argument "a man in a dress?"



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: Annee
Nice twisting. There have always been predators, there will always be predators. Isn't the argument "a man in a dress?"


No, the argument is predators who will take advantage of the 'compassion' of good intentions.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: Annee

There's a lot of complexity in making counts of the population of Trans* Americans (for the obvious reason that they desire privacy and do NOT want people to know that they're different) but the estimates we have are between 0.3% and 1%.

Which means there are between 954,000 and about 3.1 million Trans* citizens in the US.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Annee
Nice twisting. There have always been predators, there will always be predators. Isn't the argument "a man in a dress?"


No, the argument is predators who will take advantage of the 'compassion' of good intentions.


The predator noted by RepealtheLaw here didn't take advantage of anyone's good intentions ... he brutalized a little girl.

These predators exist in our society. We aren't going to manage that fact by policing genitalia.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Annee

There's a lot of complexity in making counts of the population of Trans* Americans (for the obvious reason that they desire privacy and do NOT want people to know that they're different) but the estimates we have are between 0.3% and 1%.

Which means there are between 954,000 and about 3.1 million Trans* citizens in the US.


I've always believed all the LGBT percentages are lower then reality because of that.

When you consider all public schools, including colleges - - I don't think a thousand sounds high consider there are 50 million public school students.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Annee

There's a lot of complexity in making counts of the population of Trans* Americans (for the obvious reason that they desire privacy and do NOT want people to know that they're different) but the estimates we have are between 0.3% and 1%.

Which means there are between 954,000 and about 3.1 million Trans* citizens in the US.


I've always believed all the LGBT percentages are lower then reality because of that.

When you consider all public schools, including colleges - - I don't think a thousand sounds high consider there are 50 million public school students.


Yes, I agree. You get a much different answer from men (and women) to a question like "Are you homosexual?" than to "Do you have sex with men (or women)?"

Statistically, even given a low estimate, you're correct. In fact, the conservative estimate would be that there are 150,000 Trans* kids in that 50 million.

But these kids don't matter to some ...
edit on 22-5-2016 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw
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A pedophile is a pedophile. Neither hetero or homo.

Attraction is children. Usually by availability. When girls became alter girls, they were molested too.


I worked side-by-side with a hetero pedophile and never knew it. Years after I retired he was finally arrested for sexually assaulting a ten-year-old a number of times.

He had a wife and children.
edit on 5/22/2016 by Restricted because: Slight booboo



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw
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A pedophile is a pedophile. Neither hetero or homo.

Attraction is children. Usually by availability. When girls became alter girls, they were molested too.


I worked side-by-side with a hetero pedophile and never knew it. Years after I retired he was finally arrested for sexually assaulting a ten-year-old a number of times.

He had a family and children.


Here's the difference:

A pedophile is a pedophile - - as its own orientation. Sexually attracted to children. Victims are mostly be availability rather then gender. Although there may be a preference.

A pedophile performs a heterosexual act - - but, is still a pedophile.

There's been discussion on this before on ATS. This is from previous research for discussion.




edit on 22-5-2016 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:25 AM
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And just for the record, I'll state again that pedophilia is not a sexual orientation.

It is a paraphilia, a pathology, that statistically overwhelmingly leads to child sexual abuse.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw
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A pedophile is a pedophile. Neither hetero or homo.

Attraction is children. Usually by availability. When girls became alter girls, they were molested too.


I worked side-by-side with a hetero pedophile and never knew it. Years after I retired he was finally arrested for sexually assaulting a ten-year-old a number of times.

He had a family and children.


Here's the difference:

A pedophile is a pedophile - - as its own orientation. Sexually attracted to children. Victims are mostly be availability rather then gender.

A pedophile performs a heterosexual act - - but, is still a pedophile.

There's been discussion on this before on ATS.



Yes, I'm not five years old. I know how it works. The point is the guy led a double life.

You think you know people and you don't. They will surprise the s*** out of you every time.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw
POST REMOVED BY STAFF



A pedophile is a pedophile. Neither hetero or homo.

Attraction is children. Usually by availability. When girls became alter girls, they were molested too.


I worked side-by-side with a hetero pedophile and never knew it. Years after I retired he was finally arrested for sexually assaulting a ten-year-old a number of times.

He had a family and children.


Here's the difference:

A pedophile is a pedophile - - as its own orientation. Sexually attracted to children. Victims are mostly be availability rather then gender.

A pedophile performs a heterosexual act - - but, is still a pedophile.

There's been discussion on this before on ATS.



Yes, I'm not five years old. I know how it works. The point is the guy led a double life.

You think you know people and you don't. They will surprise the s*** out of you every time.


Did this guy have access to public bathrooms?

As you said, there was no indication that he was a pedophile.

Would any of the "bathroom laws" have made a difference in his actions, do you think?



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Annee

There's a lot of complexity in making counts of the population of Trans* Americans (for the obvious reason that they desire privacy and do NOT want people to know that they're different) but the estimates we have are between 0.3% and 1%.

Which means there are between 954,000 and about 3.1 million Trans* citizens in the US.


I've always believed all the LGBT percentages are lower then reality because of that.

When you consider all public schools, including colleges - - I don't think a thousand sounds high consider there are 50 million public school students.


Yes, I agree. You get a much different answer from men (and women) to a question like "Are you homosexual?" than to "Do you have sex with men (or women)?"

Statistically, even given a low estimate, you're correct. In fact, the conservative estimate would be that there are 150,000 Trans* kids in that 50 million.

But these kids don't matter to some ...


Yes, I know.

I was being reserved when I said 1000.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw
POST REMOVED BY STAFF



A pedophile is a pedophile. Neither hetero or homo.

Attraction is children. Usually by availability. When girls became alter girls, they were molested too.


I worked side-by-side with a hetero pedophile and never knew it. Years after I retired he was finally arrested for sexually assaulting a ten-year-old a number of times.

He had a family and children.


Here's the difference:

A pedophile is a pedophile - - as its own orientation. Sexually attracted to children. Victims are mostly be availability rather then gender.

A pedophile performs a heterosexual act - - but, is still a pedophile.

There's been discussion on this before on ATS.



Yes, I'm not five years old. I know how it works. The point is the guy led a double life.

You think you know people and you don't. They will surprise the s*** out of you every time.


Did this guy have access to public bathrooms?

As you said, there was no indication that he was a pedophile.

Would any of the "bathroom laws" have made a difference in his actions, do you think?


No, the laws wouldn't have made a difference. He assaulted the girl on sleepovers with his own daughter.

Here's the real kicker - We worked in law enforcement.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
And just for the record, I'll state again that pedophilia is not a sexual orientation.

It is a paraphilia, a pathology, that statistically overwhelmingly leads to child sexual abuse.



Hey! Science said so, then retracted it because of complaints.

So, they did say so.

We will just have to agree to disagree on that one.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Annee

There's a lot of complexity in making counts of the population of Trans* Americans (for the obvious reason that they desire privacy and do NOT want people to know that they're different) but the estimates we have are between 0.3% and 1%.

Which means there are between 954,000 and about 3.1 million Trans* citizens in the US.


I've always believed all the LGBT percentages are lower then reality because of that.

When you consider all public schools, including colleges - - I don't think a thousand sounds high consider there are 50 million public school students.


Yes, I agree. You get a much different answer from men (and women) to a question like "Are you homosexual?" than to "Do you have sex with men (or women)?"

Statistically, even given a low estimate, you're correct. In fact, the conservative estimate would be that there are 150,000 Trans* kids in that 50 million.

But these kids don't matter to some ...


Yes, I know.

I was being reserved when I said 1000.


Yes, I know.

I was being reserved when I said 150,000.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Restricted

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw
POST REMOVED BY STAFF



A pedophile is a pedophile. Neither hetero or homo.

Attraction is children. Usually by availability. When girls became alter girls, they were molested too.


I worked side-by-side with a hetero pedophile and never knew it. Years after I retired he was finally arrested for sexually assaulting a ten-year-old a number of times.

He had a family and children.


Here's the difference:

A pedophile is a pedophile - - as its own orientation. Sexually attracted to children. Victims are mostly be availability rather then gender.

A pedophile performs a heterosexual act - - but, is still a pedophile.

There's been discussion on this before on ATS.



Yes, I'm not five years old. I know how it works. The point is the guy led a double life.

You think you know people and you don't. They will surprise the s*** out of you every time.


Don't most predators live a double life?

When I was about 12 our city councilman was arrested for molesting teen girls in my neighborhood.

Our female kindergarten teacher was arrested for being a drug addict. That was in the 50s.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Gryphon66
And just for the record, I'll state again that pedophilia is not a sexual orientation.

It is a paraphilia, a pathology, that statistically overwhelmingly leads to child sexual abuse.



Hey! Science said so, then retracted it because of complaints.

So, they did say so.

We will just have to agree to disagree on that one.


Annee, you know I have great respect for you as a poster, and I appreciate your advocacy on the behalf of equal rights.

But this is not a matter of agreeing to disagree.

You're reducing a marked tendency to harm children to a sexual orientation.

The fact that there is evidence that pedophilia is related to brain development does not make it a sexual orientation.

Sexual orientations cause no harm to anyone in consensual relationships.

There IS NO consensual relationship for a pedophile.
edit on 22-5-2016 by Gryphon66 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Gryphon66
And just for the record, I'll state again that pedophilia is not a sexual orientation.

It is a paraphilia, a pathology, that statistically overwhelmingly leads to child sexual abuse.



Hey! Science said so, then retracted it because of complaints.

So, they did say so.

We will just have to agree to disagree on that one.


Annee, you know I have great respect for you as a poster, and I appreciate your advocacy on the behalf of equal rights.

But this is not a matter of agreeing to disagree.

You're reducing a marked tendency to harm children to a sexual orientation.

The fact that there is evidence that pedophilia is related to brain development does not make it a sexual orientation.

Sexual orientations cause no harm to anyone in consensual relationships.

There IS NO consensual relationship for a pedophile.


We are just going to have to disagree.

Sexual orientation is what the brain tells you. Its the way your brain is wired.

That has nothing to do with acting on it or consensual relationships.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Gryphon66
And just for the record, I'll state again that pedophilia is not a sexual orientation.

It is a paraphilia, a pathology, that statistically overwhelmingly leads to child sexual abuse.



Hey! Science said so, then retracted it because of complaints.

So, they did say so.

We will just have to agree to disagree on that one.


Annee, you know I have great respect for you as a poster, and I appreciate your advocacy on the behalf of equal rights.

But this is not a matter of agreeing to disagree.

You're reducing a marked tendency to harm children to a sexual orientation.

The fact that there is evidence that pedophilia is related to brain development does not make it a sexual orientation.

Sexual orientations cause no harm to anyone in consensual relationships.

There IS NO consensual relationship for a pedophile.


We are just going to have to disagree.

Sexual orientation is what the brain tells you. Its the way your brain is wired.

That has nothing to do with acting on it or consensual relationships.


You of course can phrase it that way if you wish, but that is your definition of sexual orientation.

It's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing; pedophilia is NOT a sexual orientation.

If I may say so, you're strengthening the stupid arguments of those who oppose civil rights for all when you continue to make that claim.

But that's your right, of course, and I'll be glad to offer the facts right alongside you.




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