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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Using made-up terminology (like calling another member a "jihadi") is a clear sign that the argument is irrational.

Americans have the right to privacy and to use public facilities that correspond to their gender. All Americans.

People have different gender identities, that is an accepted medical fact.

Those of you who keep posting about "a war" to keep people from using the public facility proper to their gender are hysterically promoting an insane agenda of division with the not-so-subtle threat of violence.

That tells me all I need to know about your position: mindless zealotry.

Funny, but the only one committing crimes of violence are those deranged lunatics that feel they have a right to go into the opposite gender bathroom like that Best Buy snowflake (Grown Man) that beat that 9 year old within an inch of her life. The rest of us are voicing an opinion.

I don't know what your term for it is but a 9 year old beaten within an inch of her life seems to be as act of war to me. Is it just collateral damage to you?

Furthering a cause at the expense of innocent children is an act of lunacy and that is what this whole bathroom perversion is.. We have an opinion on the issue and we are not committing acts of violence like your team is. Its the deranged that are assaulting children in bathrooms.

Then again, the mentally ill usually interpret opinion as an act of violence. I think the medical term for that is snowflake..

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Using made-up terminology (like calling another member a "jihadi") is a clear sign that the argument is irrational.

Americans have the right to privacy and to use public facilities that correspond to their gender. All Americans.

People have different gender identities, that is an accepted medical fact.

Those of you who keep posting about "a war" to keep people from using the public facility proper to their gender are hysterically promoting an insane agenda of division with the not-so-subtle threat of violence.

That tells me all I need to know about your position: mindless zealotry.

Funny, but the only one committing crimes of violence are those deranged lunatics that feel they have a right to go into the opposite gender bathroom like that Best Buy snowflake (Grown Man) that beat that 9 year old within an inch of her life. The rest of us are voicing an opinion.

I don't know what your term for it is but a 9 year old beaten within an inch of her life seems to be as act of war to me. Is it just collateral damage to you?

Furthering a cause at the expense of innocent children is an act of lunacy and that is what this whole bathroom perversion is.. We have an opinion on the issue and we are not committing acts of violence like your team is. Its the deranged that are assaulting children in bathrooms.

Then again, the mentally ill usually interpret opinion as an act of violence. I think the medical term for that is snowflake..

Trans* Americans are not "deranged lunatics." Medical science disagrees with you. Psychiatric science disagrees with you.

You are voicing your opinion. You don't represent anyone else and you certainly don't represent "the rest of us." Own your bigotry.

I'll be glad to review the facts of the matter in regard to the 9-year old you're referring to, since you ask so kindly. Please provide a link to a factual news report.

EDIT: Beg pardon, you already did. You lableled it so poorly (and against T&C one might add) I had looked over it. More below.

And I assure you, I can provide you stacks of data on incidences of actual child molesters (which for some reason, tend to be fundamentalist Christians, but I'm sure that's just coincidental - as all Christians are patently not child molesters) that demonstrate quite clearly that if we are to be concerned about one demographic over another ... Trans* Americans are not the ones we need to fear.

The only "snowflakes" here are the ones who want to patrol the pants of the folks in the restroom with them.

Are you one of those? When you're in the restroom, do you find yourself obsessing about what the genitalia of the other folks in there with you is like?

EDIT: Your news report documents that a murderer killed a little girl. I agree with you, that is horrible. His presence in the bathroom was already illegal. He didn't try to take advantage of any fair doctrine regarding gender use of public facilities. He is not Trans*, he's a murderer.

What is your point?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Annee

Yes? The majority expects to get undressed around people with the same genitalia as their own.

Not a special right more like a common right

Would you sit in the woods right next to a dude Annee or would you want privacy or would you just get over it

There is no way she would let her child go into a bathroom alone with a grown man following her.

A transgender m/f is not a man, she's a woman. Her brain tells her so.

I don't think a child should ever have to be separated from their caregiver. I fully support a father's right to escort his daughter into the women's restroom (or the men's room).

Maybe its time we make them all Family restrooms.

My grandson is 8. He goes where I go.

And BTW, this all started because of children. Trans children. Yes, there are thousands of them in public school.

Thousands? Where are the facts to backup that bold propaganda statement.

So in your interpretation, the end justifies the means and this little girl deserved what she got because a parent wasn't there? So the mom is to blame.. Got it! So lets say mom was in there with the 9 year old and both were murdered because it further enraged the lunatic because he was challenged?

This was a 250 lb grown man in there with a 9 year old girl and he beat her like she was equal to the task of defending herself. Wait a minute! Now I get it! This is what the left means by equality! She deserved it because she is his equal and she needs to face the consequences of..... Ok, I am still trying to interpret the consequences here..

We get it though. She deserved it and Mom is to blame. I guess America will decide..

a reply to: Annee

I want them to us the bathroom I don't care. I'm very comfortable with a man-woman in a urinal beside me, not gonna stop me from taking a piss.

Some people don't want their daughters around grown men alone in the bathroom.

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Annee

I want them to us the bathroom I don't care. I'm very comfortable with a man-woman in a urinal beside me, not gonna stop me from taking a piss.

Some people don't want their daughters around grown men alone in the bathroom.

This is mostly about public schools. Trans students.

That's the root of where all this began. It's possible, but unlikely, a man is going to follow a young girl into her schools bathroom.

Many places now have single stall unisex or family restrooms.

The paranoia is hyped.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Please don't start with the Christian thing... You just implied Christian fundamentalist are child molesters

Child molesters are child molesters and come in every form and don't follow a trend. I get your point but still isn't a valid argument

a reply to: Gryphon66

Please don't start with the Christian thing... You just implied Christian fundamentalist are child molesters

Child molesters are child molesters and come in every form and don't follow a trend. I get your point but still isn't a valid argument

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Gryphon66

Please don't start with the Christian thing... You just implied Christian fundamentalist are child molesters

Child molesters are child molesters and come in every form and don't follow a trend. I get your point but still isn't a valid argument

NO, in fact I stated clearly that Christians are not child molesters. Read more carefully?

Many child molesters are fundamentalist Christians though and there is plenty of documentation to prove that.

a reply to: Gryphon66

You can't say I need to read more carefully and then say you have proof that your original statement is true

kinda confusing

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Gryphon66

I would said 10% (probably less) of transgender people are passable and really hard to tell if they're the opposite sex and many need years of hormones to make changes, which is horrible for your body btw.

And yes people are pushing back and using terms like "war" "jihad" because the Obama administration is looking to cut funding and you have school expelling students for not using proper gender pronouns.

No one is threatening violence.... and if they do report them

I'm not sure what personal research you've done on the matter of "passing" but I assure you, I know many FTM as well as MTF Trans* individuals that you (or anyone else) cannot detect by casual observation.

"Horrible for your body"? Not if you're in the wrong body. Pure judgementalism on your part -- you're talking about an accepted medical practice. Don't like it; don't do it.

Using "war" and "jihad" are senstational. The Obama Administration is enforcing the laws of the United States, and the recent letter from Education and Justice was in response to Title IX inquiries from school districts across the country ASKING for the guidance provided.

Thanks for your tip on reporting violence. I'll keep that in mind.

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Gryphon66

You can't say I need to read more carefully and then say you have proof that your original statement is true

kinda confusing

You stated that I claimed all Christians are child molesters. I not only did not, but made a specific statement that they weren't.

To eliminate confusion, use the quote function.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Using made-up terminology (like calling another member a "jihadi") is a clear sign that the argument is irrational.

Americans have the right to privacy and to use public facilities that correspond to their gender. All Americans.

People have different gender identities, that is an accepted medical fact.

Those of you who keep posting about "a war" to keep people from using the public facility proper to their gender are hysterically promoting an insane agenda of division with the not-so-subtle threat of violence.

That tells me all I need to know about your position: mindless zealotry.

Funny, but the only one committing crimes of violence are those deranged lunatics that feel they have a right to go into the opposite gender bathroom like that Best Buy snowflake (Grown Man) that beat that 9 year old within an inch of her life. The rest of us are voicing an opinion.

I don't know what your term for it is but a 9 year old beaten within an inch of her life seems to be as act of war to me. Is it just collateral damage to you?

Furthering a cause at the expense of innocent children is an act of lunacy and that is what this whole bathroom perversion is.. We have an opinion on the issue and we are not committing acts of violence like your team is. Its the deranged that are assaulting children in bathrooms.

Then again, the mentally ill usually interpret opinion as an act of violence. I think the medical term for that is snowflake..

Trans* Americans are not "deranged lunatics." Medical science disagrees with you. Psychiatric science disagrees with you.

You are voicing your opinion. You don't represent anyone else and you certainly don't represent "the rest of us." Own your bigotry.

I'll be glad to review the facts of the matter in regard to the 9-year old you're referring to, since you ask so kindly. Please provide a link to a factual news report.

And I assure you, I can provide you stacks of data on incidences of actual child molesters (which for some reason, tend to be fundamentalist Christians, but I'm sure that's just coincidental - as all Christians are patently not child molesters) that demonstrate quite clearly that if we are to be concerned about one demographic over another ... Trans* Americans are not the ones we need to fear.

The only "snowflakes" here are the ones who want to patrol the pants of the folks in the restroom with them.

Are you one of those? When you're in the restroom, do you find yourself obsessing about what the genitalia of the other folks in there with you is like?

Oh believe me, I own my bigotry. I wear it like a badge of honor. The interpretation today of the word bigotry is really meaningless in its usage. Having said that and lets say I am a true bigot, I am not going around beating whomever within a inch of their life.

Is my "bigotry" equal to the horrific crime of assaulting a child in a woman's bathroom? It would seem you and many like you are saying just that. We should just shut up when stuff like this starts to happen. This is collateral damage and if we say anything, we are Bigots! LOL

Again, wearing it like I own it..

As far as fundamental Christians molesting children, it is a known fact that men attracted to boys infiltrate where children are the most vulnerable. Churches, Schools, Boy Scouts, ect.. A Priest that molests children is a wolf in sheeps clothing. These animals have more in common with the "Alternative Lifestyle agenda" than normal people. We see the left wing rag Salon pushing that agenda.

As far as a link to the article on the 9 year old that was brutally attacked by a 250lb grown man (snowflake in LGBT terms) in the ladies bathroom, its in a link I provided in a previous post.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm using my phone for some posts friend, kinda a pain to us the quote function

a reply to: RepealTheLaw

Bigotry is bigotry. It's a word like any other. It has meaning.

Whenever someone says "it would seem you are saying that" it is clear evidence that the other person did not say that.

I am appalled that you are trying to use a little girl's senseless death to justify your political agenda here, if I may be blunt.

The man who murdered this girl was not Trans*. He was illegally in the facility. And obviously, he is a killer.

That has nothing to do with allowing millions of people across the US to continue to use the public facility that corresponds to their gender.

It has nothing to do with folks like you who seem obsessed with what others have in their pants while you're in the restroom.

LOL ... so you have proof that every Christian child molester "infiltrated" the group and was not, themselves, a Christian?

I'd love to see that.

Yeah, I saw your mislabeled link. I commented on it. You're desperately trying to muddy the waters here at the expense of a poor 9 year old girl that was brutally murdered. I find that repulsive in the extreme.

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm using my phone for some posts friend, kinda a pain to us the quote function

That doesn't give you the right to accuse me of something that I didn't say.

Perhaps, given your access point, take that into consideration next time.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Annee

I want them to us the bathroom I don't care. I'm very comfortable with a man-woman in a urinal beside me, not gonna stop me from taking a piss.

Some people don't want their daughters around grown men alone in the bathroom.

This is mostly about public schools. Trans students.

That's the root of where all this began. It's possible, but unlikely, a man is going to follow a young girl into her schools bathroom.

Many places now have single stall unisex or family restrooms.

The paranoia is hyped.

Tell that to the little girl that was brutally beaten at Best Buy. Is her life of living in a paranoid hyped state for the rest of her childhood unfounded?

Its amazing to me that the left says we must take all the guns away if its going to save one child's life but here we have a child almost murdered at the hands of the very policy they are pushing and they call it hype. Use your take all the "guns argument away" and apply it here and poof! Problem Solved!

It other words practice what you preach. Then again, I am just a bigot..

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Annee

I want them to us the bathroom I don't care. I'm very comfortable with a man-woman in a urinal beside me, not gonna stop me from taking a piss.

Some people don't want their daughters around grown men alone in the bathroom.

This is mostly about public schools. Trans students.

That's the root of where all this began. It's possible, but unlikely, a man is going to follow a young girl into her schools bathroom.

Many places now have single stall unisex or family restrooms.

The paranoia is hyped.

Tell that to the little girl that was brutally beaten at Best Buy. Is her life of living in a paranoid hyped state for the rest of her childhood unfounded?

Its amazing to me that the left says we must take all the guns away if its going to save one child's life but here we have a child almost murdered at the hands of the very policy they are pushing and they call it hype. Use your take all the "guns argument away" and apply it here and poof! Problem Solved!

It other words practice what you preach. Then again, I am just a bigot..

Oh thank goodness. I thought the man had killed the little girl. I'm very glad she's not dead.

I'm sure she will have a lot to deal with in the coming years. I hope she gets the help she needs.

Your obsession with policing genitalia in public facilities has nothing to do with the case of this young girl. And again, shame on you for suggesting it does.

You haven't answered the obvious question: do you find yourself obsessing about the genitals of the people you share public bathrooms with?

Enough with trying to use a tragedy to your political advantage. Tell us, do you want to be one of the folks that "checks genital status" before using the bathroom?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: RepealTheLaw

Bigotry is bigotry. It's a word like any other. It has meaning.

Whenever someone says "it would seem you are saying that" it is clear evidence that the other person did not say that.

I am appalled that you are trying to use a little girl's senseless death to justify your political agenda here, if I may be blunt.

The man who murdered this girl was not Trans*. He was illegally in the facility. And obviously, he is a killer.

That has nothing to do with allowing millions of people across the US to continue to use the public facility that corresponds to their gender.

It has nothing to do with folks like you who seem obsessed with what others have in their pants while you're in the restroom.

LOL ... so you have proof that every Christian child molester "infiltrated" the group and was not, themselves, a Christian?

I'd love to see that.

Yeah, I saw your mislabeled link. I commented on it. You're desperately trying to muddy the waters here at the expense of a poor 9 year old girl that was brutally murdered. I find that repulsive in the extreme.

He didn't murder her. I never said he did. Please READ the article. You say "He was illegally in the facility." Really? Is this not the agenda you are pushing? The policy is "if I feel like a woman today I can go into the ladies rest room dresses as a man." There is no gray area in that push. You people want open season on children, pure and simple. He was there because he felt he could be there. He felt social norms didn't apply to him and he wanted her to feel the wrath of his equality or maybe inequality.

Whatever the case, he made his point and this innocent child suffered and more will if this continues.

ETA - Be appalled all you want. I am appalled that a 9 year old is marginalized and beaten within an inch of her life.. I am not beating anyone. You seem more offend by my words than what this monster did..

Double Post.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: RepealTheLaw

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Annee

I want them to us the bathroom I don't care. I'm very comfortable with a man-woman in a urinal beside me, not gonna stop me from taking a piss.

Some people don't want their daughters around grown men alone in the bathroom.

This is mostly about public schools. Trans students.

That's the root of where all this began. It's possible, but unlikely, a man is going to follow a young girl into her schools bathroom.

Many places now have single stall unisex or family restrooms.

The paranoia is hyped.

Tell that to the little girl that was brutally beaten at Best Buy. Is her life of living in a paranoid hyped state for the rest of her childhood unfounded?

Its amazing to me that the left says we must take all the guns away if its going to save one child's life but here we have a child almost murdered at the hands of the very policy they are pushing and they call it hype. Use your take all the "guns argument away" and apply it here and poof! Problem Solved!

It other words practice what you preach. Then again, I am just a bigot..

Oh thank goodness. I thought the man had killed the little girl. I'm very glad she's not dead.

I'm sure she will have a lot to deal with in the coming years. I hope she gets the help she needs.

Your obsession with policing genitalia in public facilities has nothing to do with the case of this young girl. And again, shame on you for suggesting it does.

You haven't answered the obvious question: do you find yourself obsessing about the genitals of the people you share public bathrooms with?

Enough with trying to use a tragedy to your political advantage. Tell us, do you want to be one of the folks that "checks genital status" before using the bathroom?

Why do you obsess about going into bathrooms with little boys or girls depending on how you feel that day? I mean really, its the same old argument. "If you don't agree with the LGBT you must be one." Nice deflection from the real tragedy you people are perpetrating.