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originally posted by: Konduit
I know of a few members that claim to be Beelzebub and worship Lilith. You should contact TheLordOfFlies and host an AMA.
originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: Parazurvan
Yes, fine, all very well except you can't prove that any one of these characters ever existed can you? They have left nothing behind except comparatively recent stories written by priests bearing in mind man is actually over i million years old So its actually irrelevant who was what or why they are all late comers into man's world.
I you look at the idea of one single God who was the God apparently jealous of, that he had to demand no other Gods be acknowledged etc? When you look at the Gods from the desert religions Are they there same God? One is jealous, one is benevolent and one a dictator do they deserve our recognition
originally posted by: Parazurvan
Lilith is the first wife of Adam, equally created with Adam in Genesis. She refuses to submit and is turned into the serpent.
She then procreates with Semjaza(z) to create Azazel, the most powerful god after "YHVH" and corrupter of man. Azazel is the god of the desert and the Yom Kippur requires a sacrifice to Azazel that makes him a scapegoat for Israels sins.
Azazel in Islam is called Melek-Moth or king of death. Moth or Mot is the Canaanite god of death and nemesis of Baal(YHVH). His fall is due to refusal to worship Enoch or Adam depending on the source and is bound in a mountain in Dodael until judgement day. Semjaza was turned into the constellation Orion. Azazel is worshipped as Melek-Taus by the Yezidis.
Baalzebul is called "prince of the flies.". His name REALLY means prince of all that flies. Or " prince of the powers of the air.". He is not Ha Satan who is subordinate to YHVH, He is a Baalim and god in his own right.
Who came to be inferior to Belial by the Nazarenes and Zadokites as the lawless one and the undisputed leader of the Sons of Darkness. He may or may not be the same figure.
NONE OF THESE DEMONIC SPIRITS ARE EQUAL TO THE SATAN OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. Belial is closest but he has attributes of Azazel also so he can't be seen as equal.
Ha Satan only does what God let's him. Even in the New Testament. He is not the devil.
As you can see, the New Testament is not consistent with the Israelites idea of the enemy of God and bungled the whole theology of Judaism by assigning Satan as a name when it is the title of an angel in good standing.
They combined Belial with Azazel and Baalzebul and called him Satan.
Satan is not evil. All information comes from the Bible, the books of 1,2 and three Enoch and the Zohar. Also from Islam and Canaanite mythology, from where Israel got its gods (Canaan).
Lucifer is a Catholic invention based on mistranslating "Shachar" the name of a Canaanite goddess of the day star. She has a twin sister named Shalim, the evening star and source for the word Salem and Shalom. Uru Shalim became Jerusalem.