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Originally posted by Beast4rmDaEast
umm... sure whats the drugs you toke?
while over-dosing on the drugs did you have anytype of side-effects?
Originally posted by magestica
I don't really think that is an obe, but I do think it's a 'form' of obe. I have almost the same kind of experience when I'm meditating and it isn't an obe for me, so that's why I'm thinking what you are experiencing isn't one.
I believe that during obe our spirit wonders off, or what some would call our astral body, in meditation you can do this, but mostly the things we experience in meditation are of the mind.
Astral projection can come in many different forms, feelings, and ways so you could very well be having a tid bit of one? Who knows? Everyone is different, and so are their experiences. That sounds very neat though Astro. Is it immediate? Do you 'feel' anything or hear anything prior to seeing the ring of light?
Originally posted by astrocreep
I have no idea if I can classify these as OBEs but sometimes when I shut my eyes, like to fall asleep. Suddenly, I see myself moving toward a ring of light. I don't actually see myself but as if I'm flying first hand toward it. I am awake and conscious and if I open my eyes it fades. But while they are closed I enter the ring and it winds its way around like I'm in a tunnel and then I exit into open blackness for a few seconds and then I see another and enter it. I'm not sure if its a optical nerve trick but its sure cool. I'm actually seeing this and not visualizing it. I'm sure it could be explained as a way the eye is trying to focus while the eyelid is closed but on very rare occasions, it certainly feels very real.
Originally posted by Gazrok
Both times were very brief, and unexpected, but really weird... I've tried since to do it through concentration, but I can't quite break free from the body. I can see my transluscent foot rise up, for example, but can never break free (at least not yet), of the actual physical body. So, I'm thinking (at least for me), it requires being unconscious, or perhaps in a deep self-induced trance. I'll let you know if I ever pull it off...