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demonic presence during meditation (spiritual journey)

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posted on May, 18 2016 @ 04:28 PM
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I have had multiple OBE, the first was in 1977 on the island of Maui. I was out of my body wandering. I was deep in meditation. I unexpectantly met up with a friend who also was meditating at the same time. We saw each other face to face. Our spirits met in some other dimension. We immediatly flew back into our bodies. I jumped up and ran toward him, and he did the same. We were embracing and patting each other on the backs, while exclaiming , " Its all true, we are spiritual beings!"




posted on May, 18 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: visitedbythem

I am gods child.


I am Gods child



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 04:44 PM
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I say, bring it. perhaps this manifestation is merely a part of you own conscience that you are unwilling to explore. I don't believe in "demons" or "angels" it's YOU. See how far you can go down that rabbit hole.

disclaimer, if you are torn to bits by some other worldly entity I will not be held responsible. . .



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 05:01 PM
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originally posted by: IsidoreOfSeville
a reply to: sapphireblue

Whenever anyone opens themselves up to spirits, it's a two way street. Doors go both ways. For your own safety, you may want to cease and desist.


Meditation does not open up paths to demons.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 05:01 PM
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Muslims, like Mohammed, are often plagued by demons, this is a common thread running through many personal accounts

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

'For all the gods of the nations are devils: but the Lord made the heavens.' PS 92.5



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: visitedbythem

awesome but I have read so many horror stories of astral projections from members here in other forum threads.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: sapphireblue Thats why I dont do it anymore. There were other beings I saw. I dont know who they are. I do have my suspicions



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 05:06 PM
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a reply to: denybedoomed


your last line made me rofl



funnily I do believe in evil hauntings, demons, jinns, satan but I don't believe in "demonic possessions" per se... I don't think these astral beings can physically take charge of our bodies. they exist merely to annoy humans and stray them from the path of righteousness.

I wish I could find a spiritual guide who would tell me how to increase my perception without getting bugged by these entities but im from Pakistan and I don't think I will find anyone here easily.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: sapphireblue

As I answered someone else, meditation does not open up paths to demons, nor do binaural beat music.

If you feel there is something there, there are any number of simple cleasing rituals to be found on the internet. The simple burning of sage or white candles can do it.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: visitedbythem

I read your forum post. say Ayat ul Qursi thrice before going to sleep and clap your hands thrice. according to two different accounts saying it thrice Allah sends three angels for your protection for the night. when you clap your hands, no paranormal entity will enter the area where the sound of the clap is heard.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: reldra

I haven't felt anything here since last night. that was the last encounter. I feel very positive and im not picking on anything for now.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 05:16 PM
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a reply to: sapphireblue

As-salamu Alaykum- Did You clear the chakras first? This is VERY important especially when trying to work with the Ajna chakra..

Does Your local water contain fluoride? Fluoride calcifies the Pineal Gland. You can try and de-calcify the Pineal Gland and the fastest way I've found is by "Sun Gazing" either the first hour or last hour of Sunlight. I'm up to close to 1 min. (48 sec. Which is a looong time...)

Enjoy Your Trip..



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 05:20 PM
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By the way, I wasnt trying to project, it just happened.
Another time about 9 years ago, I was laying in a hospital, in intensive care, not expected to live through the night, after a motorcycle wreck. I left my body for a full hour, and flew high above Earth, way out in the darkness of space. There was no sound out there. I could see that I was in spirit. I looked. I was flying very fast, and very high above the planet. Suddenly, after an hour, I was drawn very quickly, as if by a thread, directly back down through the atmosphere through the hospital ceiling and into my body. I hit that aluminum hospital gurney bed doing hundreds of miles an hour, and it didnt even move. My conciousness never wavered. I called out to the nurse and described what had just happened. She was excited at what I told her. My liver and kidneys had been offline and I was dying. I was yellow. My cathetor bag was full of billiruben. Immediatly aftyer this experience, my organs came back online. My liver began working, and my kidneys produced urine. I was back to work in 31 days. The doctors were amazed. Even the Specialist at Stanford couldnt explain it. I was supposed to die that night. It was a miracle



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: sapphireblue

First, your English is fine. Until you commented on it, I didn't consider that it wasn't your first language. What you posted was very clear.

As to your problem, my best advice to you, I can give, but I am not sure how you would welcome it, because y advice comes from a Christian viewpoint, which is different from your own. It isn't meant to be preachy, so please don't take it that way. It's given out of concern, because I do believe what you described is demonic, and that worries me. So, take the advice as you will.

That sort of meditation is effectively an invitation, whether that was your goal or not. When you spoke to this "guide animal" of yours, you had no way to know to whom you actually spoke. The fear you felt is a good indication that this was no "inner guide" at all, but, as you suspect, something demonic.

What you need to do is to renounce any requests made to this entity. State firmly that you are no longer interested in guidance or advice from this being, and avoid any future contact. That's just a start, though. A demon isn't going to want to just give up and go away, and you have likely invited trouble into your life, though that was not your intent. I know of only one protection from such things, and you can probably guess what that would be from my perspective. Someone who is Christian, meaning someone who accepts Jesus as Savior, has protection against such things. Even people who have called on His Name, in cases of "alien abduction", people who were not Christian, have seen relief in such cases.

That's the best I can tell you. You can believe as you wish; that is your right. In this case, I offer just the best I can, and it's up to you what to do with the information. I am hapy to talk more here, or in messages, if you want to do so. All up to you.

Prayers offered, in any case, for safety and protection!



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: sapphireblue

I see you are getting a lot of mixed messages. I'll tell you what my friend did when he experienced something similar.

During his first OBE he said there was a big black monster-like thing standing at his doorway, as if to block his path. Instead of being scared, he got up and went over to touch it out of curiosity. When he did this the thing just vaporized and he never had any more bad experiences after that first time.

He said a person should show no fear, but approach such things with curiosity. They feed on fear, so try not to show any.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: IsidoreOfSeville
a reply to: sapphireblue

Whenever anyone opens themselves up to spirits, it's a two way street. Doors go both ways. For your own safety, you may want to cease and desist.

I second that.

Jesus is the only way to God for man today.



posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn

originally posted by: IsidoreOfSeville
a reply to: sapphireblue

Whenever anyone opens themselves up to spirits, it's a two way street. Doors go both ways. For your own safety, you may want to cease and desist.

I second that.

Jesus is the only way to God for man today.
There was a man in Indonesia that started a cult called Subud. His name was Mohammad Subuh Sumohadiwojojo. He taught that it mattered not what religion you belonged to ( He was Muslim) but that you needed to be opened to the spirits by him or one of his followers that he had opened. Please disregard the picture on the right. Mohammed Sumohadiwojojo is pictured on the left. He is the founder of Subud




posted on May, 18 2016 @ 08:42 PM
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As I said please disregard the picture on the right. There is some silly story that Mr. Obamas Mother had a sexual afair with Mohammad when she was in Jakarta, just prior to her meeting her husband Barack Obama Sr. Dont believe any of that nonsence. Barack Sr is his real dad



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 12:47 AM
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walaikum assalam

ummm no a reply to: JimNasium



no it doesn't contain fluoride.. Pakistani govt aint got no time to play these mind games.


not to my knowledge at least but it does contain chlorine from time to time.

no im done for now. maybe in a few years if I feel like opening up myself to demon attacks I can try this method


PS sun gazing at this time of the year here will melt my eye sockets
edit on 19-5-2016 by sapphireblue because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 12:57 AM
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originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: sapphireblue Thats why I dont do it anymore. There were other beings I saw. I dont know who they are. I do have my suspicions



You have seen them and they have seen you.

You carry a spiritual mark upon you as one who has walked in a forbidden zone for mortals. You were participating in an occult practice.

Glad to hear that you have stopped this practice.




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