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Venezuela Is Officially Out of Food!

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posted on May, 18 2016 @ 09:54 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Bone75
This is what Obama's right hand was doing while we were all watching his left hand sign a deal with Iran.


Of course. Obama did it.



Ridiculous.


Ridiculous? Are you saying we didn't drive oil prices down in order to bring Iran to the negotiating table?

Do you think Obama didn't know what this would do to Venezuela's economy?




posted on May, 18 2016 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: Bone75

What power does a president have on oil prices, and what does Iran negotiations have to do with Venezuela?

Venezuela's problems are based on currency policy, not oil.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 04:35 AM
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If you look at the pattern of war in countries that have oil you see that war has been started all of them and often by Western influence - why should it only be in the ME and not South America?

Honestly once oil looses its position of power in the world and the people behind its created wealth stop their treacherous games - elitists families all of them, the world will be a safer place for people without their carnage to keep their money. If Venezuela didn't have oil one wonders if it would be in the situation it is today. Sadly just a look at Libya as a prime example of todays politics and those behind them should be enough for most to see this.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 04:36 AM
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a reply to: Bone75

I think the only reason Iran hasn't been attacked and war started there is that they have a very strong security system and the backing of both Russia and China - otherwise that country would be simply another Iraq.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 05:28 AM
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a reply to: TheKestrel04

This is so important. Socialism, ending gun laws, inflation.... The sad part is that this is a very easy slop to fall down.

Venezuel a's economic downfall



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 06:15 AM
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Hmm Alrighty,there is going to a be immigrant creep occurring over the next year in the region,I noticed a few Venezuelans here in the Caribbean years before this and I wondered why they would come here, now I realized most flea their country to find work with better pay and live in a less harsh environment. I've noticed most people tend to migrate to North America and Europe ( (>_>) ), but I can't help but think the world is in upheaval.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: TheKestrel04

Perhaps a lot of roosters are coming home to roost? About time because the corruption and manipulation is way out of hand and I suspect disgusting most people. I have never known such disrespect for governments, institutions etc but now they are being exposed and especially the brutes behind them, - roosters coming home to roost. ore of the world's infrastructure is starting to disintegrate like the fraudulent financial markets.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 07:35 AM
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a reply to: Bone75

Middle Eastern countries have had more influence on the oil price. Saudi Arabia for example drove it down in an attempt to bankrupt small to medium sized U.S. and Canadian based oil corporations. They didn't take into consideration that their own actions could backfire on them though.

And Venezuela was already a mess before the oil prices went down.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: FamCore
I don't understand how the government/leaders let this happen


Lots of corruption, lack of purchasing power, low productivity.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 03:21 AM
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Rifles in a prison. Lol. What they need is a tough dictator. That's why they praise gang bosses. Chavez was just too kind on them. They subconsciously feel the need of a strong head of a family. A pack leader's weakness makes them disobedient, self-destructive, abusing mothers' care etc. It is simple. These people are animals in the first place. With a very long road to any working system. Once they have one they need to obey and love it or the nature's laws crush them again.
The same applies to Mexico, ME and many others. A dictator, communism or a religion. A tough hand. That's why Russia is so happy with Putin.
edit on 21/5/2016 by PapagiorgioCZ because: grammar



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

Oh, thank god.. someone that will actually explain the situation logically instead of having a biased knee-jerk reaction tied to their ideology..

Quit your job and explain stuff to people on the internet instead, I think we could benefit.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 11:20 PM
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Scouting safe havens?
Venezuelan president to visit Jamaica
Under-Fire Venezuela President Orders War Games

edit on 21-5-2016 by TheKestrel04 because: added video


edit on 21-5-2016 by TheKestrel04 because: added video



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: TheKestrel04

IS this the beginning of the South American Spring?

More like the future of the USA under a socialistic government.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 09:37 PM
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a reply to: TheKestrel04
There maybe a better reason why this is happening. I'd like your opinions on the validity of this(sarcasm). Maybe this reason why everyone:
Source 1... en.m.wikipedia.org...

Source 2... www.cracked.com...

"Hey, remember how like five years ago we were certain that the world was running out of oil and gas prices shot up to $4.00 a gallon? And have you noticed that you're paying like $1.75 now (depending on where you live)? That's because worldwide petroleum prices have collapsed. So that's good news for working folks with a commute, but bad news for a country like Venezuela.


J Pat Carter/Getty Images News/Getty Images
"We need a carbon tax, with the proceeds buying milk for Venezuelans!" -- a plan that would surely popular with everyone

You probably didn't know that Venezuela has the most oil of anyone. No, really -- they're sitting on more oil than Saudi Araba, and they have almost as much as Iran and Iraq combined. Three times as much as Russia. So back in the day, it didn't seem like a terrible idea when Hugo Chavez dumped billions into social programs. Oil prices were high and profits were up, so why not make it rain? Hell, Kuwait regularly gives its citizens cash payouts and free food with their ridiculous oil revenues. Saudi Arabia does it too.

But then oil prices fell, and kept falling, and it came as a complete shock to the Venezuelan government, which had sort of assumed that oil would keep going up in value until it was either exhausted or Earth moved to a Star Trek-like post-currency utopia. "But," you're probably thinking, "Why wasn't everybody filthy rich from the days when our drivers were paying through the nose?" Good question. Part of the answer is that the country was laughably corrupt even when times were good. For years, the government allowed businessmen to siphon away tens of billions of dollars in oil revenue. And so instead of having a safety cushion to keep the country going through some lean years, Venezuela ended up with a patch of cement to splatter against.


Steve Hansen Images/Moment Open/Getty
Pictured: the Venezuelan economy.

So the oil money dried up, and all the things you should be able to expect a socialist government to provide -- water, electricity, law enforcement -- suddenly became either unreliable or nonexistent, forcing people to either turn to expensive private entities or go without. A system that appeared flawed but solid ("Sure there's corruption, but we're sitting on an ocean of oil, bitch!") turned out to be a house of cards." -cracked.com contributors Robert Evans and Anonymous


edit on 22/5/2016 by Gyo01 because: Added quotations

edit on 22/5/2016 by Gyo01 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 09:49 PM
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originally posted by: Thefarmer
a reply to: TheKestrel04

This is why you shouldn't put all you're eggs in one basket! Venezuela relied heavily on oil and once the price dropped like it did, they were up sh!t creek

Shuda took a leaf out of Dubai book and used their cash wisely



Nail on the head you just hit. Read my other post on this thread, I think you'll enjoy!
edit on 22/5/2016 by Gyo01 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: Gyo01
a reply to: TheKestrel04
There maybe a better reason why this is happening. I'd like your opinions on the validity of this(sarcasm). Maybe this reason why everyone:
Source 1... en.m.wikipedia.org...

Source 2... www.cracked.com...

"Hey, remember how like five years ago we were certain that the world was running out of oil and gas prices shot up to $4.00 a gallon? And have you noticed that you're paying like $1.75 now (depending on where you live)? That's because worldwide petroleum prices have collapsed. So that's good news for working folks with a commute, but bad news for a country like Venezuela.


J Pat Carter/Getty Images News/Getty Images
"We need a carbon tax, with the proceeds buying milk for Venezuelans!" -- a plan that would surely popular with everyone

You probably didn't know that Venezuela has the most oil of anyone. No, really -- they're sitting on more oil than Saudi Araba, and they have almost as much as Iran and Iraq combined. Three times as much as Russia. So back in the day, it didn't seem like a terrible idea when Hugo Chavez dumped billions into social programs. Oil prices were high and profits were up, so why not make it rain? Hell, Kuwait regularly gives its citizens cash payouts and free food with their ridiculous oil revenues. Saudi Arabia does it too.

But then oil prices fell, and kept falling, and it came as a complete shock to the Venezuelan government, which had sort of assumed that oil would keep going up in value until it was either exhausted or Earth moved to a Star Trek-like post-currency utopia. "But," you're probably thinking, "Why wasn't everybody filthy rich from the days when our drivers were paying through the nose?" Good question. Part of the answer is that the country was laughably corrupt even when times were good. For years, the government allowed businessmen to siphon away tens of billions of dollars in oil revenue. And so instead of having a safety cushion to keep the country going through some lean years, Venezuela ended up with a patch of cement to splatter against.


Steve Hansen Images/Moment Open/Getty
Pictured: the Venezuelan economy.

So the oil money dried up, and all the things you should be able to expect a socialist government to provide -- water, electricity, law enforcement -- suddenly became either unreliable or nonexistent, forcing people to either turn to expensive private entities or go without. A system that appeared flawed but solid ("Sure there's corruption, but we're sitting on an ocean of oil, bitch!") turned out to be a house of cards." -cracked.com contributors Robert Evans and Anonymous




posted on May, 22 2016 @ 09:54 PM
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a reply to: Gyo01

I meant to hit edit not reply.



posted on May, 22 2016 @ 10:30 PM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE
I dunno man...

i visit the US nearly every year..... and i wish i lived there as opposed to bloody Europe... there is just no way to go about it legally and succeed! which is why im still in London!

better off being a mexican




posted on May, 23 2016 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: Gyo01

Well that's slightly worse than I thought. Their government felt confident they would not run out of cash and when the oil prices dropped so did their revenue but the corruption had already undermined the road to recovery.Then they gagged themselves with the monetary control ensuring their demise.They pretty much had it coming.
edit on 23-5-2016 by TheKestrel04 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 23 2016 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: combatmaster

You've heard the phrase "the grass is always greener on the other side"? Trust me...everything, every place and every situation is weighed on a scale. If something is better on one side, something on the other side sucks more. The trick is finding your unique combination of what sucks and what doesn't, that matches what bothers you the most and is the most important to you. The problem in the USA is certain groups are trying to make everything the same everywhere. Then you have no place to go.




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