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The States Begin to Fight Obama’s Transgender “Guidance”

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posted on May, 20 2016 @ 06:53 AM
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a reply to: Teikiatsu




People will practice their religion and will not participate in ceremonies or events that they consider sinful.


Like inaugurations and other sinful oaths?



People will still demand men use the men's room and women use the women's room.


Proxy by appearances?



People will still believe a so-called transgender person is sick in the head.


And people who hear voices and/or talk to invisible "gods" and their "god's representatives" are sane?

Oye




posted on May, 20 2016 @ 07:31 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: SKMDC1

I was responding to a poster that said we fought a war that all people were created eaual, therefore we must accommodate trans people in this incident. Trans people suffer from a disorder, gender disphoria. If society has to adapt for them, why not the autistic?


Yes, I was that poster. Society has adapted for autistic individuals. There is certainly a wider range of support for ASD than for transgender. However, I think the difference is ASD is a condition where the individual has problems dealing with others, whereas transgendered isn't a disorder for the individual, it's a problem of society dealing with the individual. Acceptance. Understanding. I don't think there is a lack of acceptance and understanding for ASD kids.



posted on May, 20 2016 @ 07:38 AM
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originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

originally posted by: SKMDC1

originally posted by: AmericanRealist
good for them. States determine their own policies, not a single man on a throne. I want to see more states jump on board.


You know, we actually fought a war over that idea, and we determined the States DO NOT determine their own policies when it comes to discrimination toward Americans. All men are created equal (even if they identify as a woman.) The "all men are not created equal" side lost, rather badly. No one is being forced by a single man or a king. It's the majority of Americans who think it's not okay to be a doucehbag to a fellow citizen. Sometimes, the Federal Gov't has to step in and say, okay now, we're getting near douchebag territory!

NC Bathroom Bill Poll

It is not discrimination to require that EVERYONE follow the same rule that has always been in place. It is SPECIAL rules for a minority of the population to utilize that which ALL individuals have had access to based upon their actual sex. Thus making Obama's "rule" discrimination against the majority...which appears to be his last year's agenda.


What's funny is that the "rule that has always been in place" was that there was no rule. If you look/act/smell like a woman you went to the ladies bathroom. The "rule" is a brand new thing just to target transgendered people because the far right are pissed off they lost the gay marriage fight. Transgendered people have been using the bathroom of the gender identity for DECADES with no problems. It's the NC law that's changing the "rule that has always been in place." The SPECIAL rules that are being put in place are because chicken-# butt-sore Christians are claiming to be "uncomfortable" with something that's been going on for DECADES with no issues whatsoever.

If you support these ridiculous bathroom rules, then you are in favor of the Government introducing special laws to protect a group of people based on a claim of uncomfortableness. What's next, a law saying ugly people can't sit next to you on the train, or fat people aren't allowed in elevators? How far do we have to go to as a society to coddle you precious little snowflake pansies?



posted on May, 20 2016 @ 07:39 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Dear non-existant god, you can't see the hand in front of your face, even if you tried really really hard.

I'm with the crowd that says obama.. stfu.. and just #ing leave ffs



posted on May, 20 2016 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

You know, all those people who kept claiming that Obama is not socialist have been proven wrong by yet more socialist policies being imposed on the people. A "genderless society" is part of what socialism is all about.



posted on May, 20 2016 @ 09:20 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You are 100% correct.

Too many people not believing there really are trees in forests.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You are 100% correct.

Too many people not believing there really are trees in forests.




Well, I'm a socialist, and never heard anything about any socialist agenda to promote (or demote) transgenderism, gayity, heterosexuality or whatever sexual preference. Most socialists I know feel that you should be free to be what you really are, as long as it allows others to do likewise.

BTW, what amuses me is that this discussion mostly takes place in a country that says it is the "land of the free". Oh, sure..



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: ForteanOrg

You're forgetting that all socialism "is really Stalinism and Maoism."

Also, that every socialist agrees 100% with any treatise that any so-called Marxist theorist in academia publishes.

Also that socialist=fascist=social democrat=etc. etc.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 11:38 AM
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originally posted by: ForteanOrg

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You are 100% correct.

Too many people not believing there really are trees in forests.




BTW, what amuses me is that this discussion mostly takes place in a country that says it is the "land of the free". Oh, sure..


Sometimes it takes a court order to remind others we are not a theocracy.



posted on May, 21 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ForteanOrg

You're forgetting that all socialism "is really Stalinism and Maoism."

Also, that every socialist agrees 100% with any treatise that any so-called Marxist theorist in academia publishes.

Also that socialist=fascist=social democrat=etc. etc.


Socialism actually opposes systems that deprive people of their rights, the basis of socialism is dignity, equality and solidarity. Hence socialists actively fought against fascism in WWII. Actually, even the communist block were our allies then. So, get your facts straight: socialists are not fascists.

Are we Leninists? Marxists? Well, firstly, Leninism is actually an interpretation of Marxism, so perhaps the better question is: has Marxism/Leninism influenced socialism? Of course it has. Lenin suggested "Formation of the proletariat into a class, overthrow of the bourgeois supremacy, conquest of political power by the proletariat." So, power to the people. I fail to see what's wrong with that.

Are socialists social-democrats? Nope, they are not either, the socialists are more radical in their beliefs than the social democrats. But the two are closely related, share a lot of the same ideas and often can work together.

So, most of what you write is rubbish, sorry mate. But yes, socialism was / is influenced by Marxism. Have you ever read Marx?




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