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Americans Have a Common Enemy

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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:24 PM
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I had a slightly heated discussion with an ATS member over socialism, needless to say this person made the claim of Socialism being non-violent. I'm not here to say that socialism is violent, or liberals are violent. People are angry with the political system, this is why Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump have so much support; both of these groups are angry over the same thing, the political elite have done well making this another right vs left game, but it seems things are unraveling at the seems.

No matter what system we live under, human nature will always dominate, Donald and Bernie are reflections of the extreme anger. People want both of these candidates to tear down the system, and build it into their own image. They will be disappointed.

If the right and left come together, discard the two parties entirely, we might have a chance.



"We believe, unfortunately, that the tactics and behavior on display here in Nevada are harbingers of things to come as Democrats gather in Philadelphia in July for our National Convention," Schrager wrote. "We write to alert you to what we perceive as the Sanders campaign's penchant for extra-parliamentary behavior — indeed, actual violence — in place of democratic conduct in a convention setting, and furthermore what we can only describe as their encouragement of, and complicity in, a very dangerous atmosphere that ended in chaos and physical threats to fellow Democrats."


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What does this article tell me? It tells me that Bernie supporters are as angry as Trump supporters, their anger is justified but their actions only serve to marginalize the real issue. The corporate media loves a racist Trump supporter, corporate media loves a rioting Bernie supporter.

I've noticed, when local news wants to interview a 'person off the street', who do they pick? They interview the dumbest sh*t of the bunch, the one with the most idiotic views. The Bernie and Trump supporters, if either side prevails, will find themselves disappointed and betrayed. That is what happens when faith is placed in some demagogue, if you want change you do it yourself; otherwise you roll the dice (which are usually loaded).

Of course the Bernie Sanders supporters are correct, do they realize the two party system is rigged? What does anyone expect will be the outcome?

The right and left need to set aside their differences, the corporatists have us fighting over bathrooms. Really?

I get it, we like to believe our political beliefs are the only way. Where did you get your political beliefs? Who taught you them? Do the people you raise upon the golden pedestal truly share those beliefs? If they associate themselves with the elite Democrat/Republicans, probably not.

We are Americans first. Everything else is secondary. You want socialism? You want capitalism? Religious freedom? Right to bear arms? Social justice? You want what you think this country needs? Put them on the back-burner. It won't matter what you want, if Americans do not address the primary dilemma. That dilemma is the deep rooted corruption in politics, the only change you will see is less freedom, no matter which political elite side prevails.

Hillary goes to Trump's wedding, Bernie gets a secure seat in Vermont as long as he keeps out any third party contenders. They go to all the same parties. We are faced with the same threat that we faced when this country was founded, a royal class determined to subjugate their subjects.

This video is amazing, it puts everything in perspective:



The Tea Party, Occupy Wall Street. They both were fighting the same enemy, and corporate media painted them into the right/left paradigm.

It is an uphill battle, and one that we probably cannot win. Does that mean people should just give up? No. Real change won't come tomorrow, or next year, or maybe not even in our lifetime. Take this election cycle as a learning experience, learn from the enemy, who occupy the halls of power, from both sides.

Find their weakness. Tread carefully.

Democrat or Republican, we are both conditioned to hate each other. Our co-opted revolutions are the road to dictatorship. Neither side wants that. It's time to set aside your differences, until the Greater Evil is banished from any position of power.

Democrats, you want to reign in those evil corporations? Stop buying their sh*t. The power is in the hands of the consumer.

Republicans, you want to halt the dictates of unelected officials? Ignore their commands. Mass civil disobedience sends a message no politician can ignore.

We only have one life to live. Make it count.




posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:32 PM
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You could have just said everyone hates the tax man.
I no longer desire to be a part of the political landscape even if the left and the right say it is my duty, I actually feel it more pertinent to resist the mainstream sentiment. If I were to play along with any of it I would take the side of pure evil just to get the party started because the vast majority still believes in lesser of evils without understanding it is still evil, go all the way so we can get this over with.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:34 PM
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YEa...trump.
Cheers



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

Nothing will change.

Scratch that.

It'll get worse.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:59 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: GodEmperor

Nothing will change.

Scratch that.

It'll get worse.


You sir are on the right train of thought......things will get worse, and we'll be sitting in lawn chairs in our jammies with a couple of 5.56's topped off with 30 round mags and a harry carey drum of whiskey n coke with the lil curly straws and festive umbrellas..




posted on May, 16 2016 @ 09:16 PM
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During the French Revolution it was easy to understand.

"Enemies of the People" were sent to the Guillotine.

By the order of "The Committee for Public Safety"

Right and Left is propaganda.

Enemies is easy to understand.




posted on May, 16 2016 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

I regret that I have only one flag to give to this thread. Well spoken, sir.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 09:40 PM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

I think we should petition Dylan Ratigan to run as an independent. I think this guy is the perfect non-establishment candidate. He's smart, mad as hell and tells it like it is!




posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

Great video. The Corbett Report is also a great show. That guy is really sharp and keeps on top of what's really happening without the spin and deception getting in the way. I used to watch his show a lot.

I haven't seen the divide and conquer strategy as dominate as it is now probably my whole life. Everywhere I go I see signs of it too. It's not just people who are more Liberal or more Conservative debating which is better. It's literally people, families and friends who once they disagree with someone are from that point complete enemies. It's really crazy.

All over political positions and social issues. But they are taken to an extreme. Everybody just seems to take one side or the other and it keeps them busy fighting the other side rather than going after the real problem which is the corruption on both sides or all sides even. Because fighting that corruption is so much more difficult and distant than your alleged enemy right there in your face. Even if they were once your friend.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 01:52 AM
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a reply to: GodEmperor


Our common enemy is.......each other. That is the reality of the situation.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 05:41 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

I'll have to check it out.

You are absolutely correct, it's become so divisive these days we are teetering on disaster. If the majority elects Trump, violence will erupt in all corners of this nation. That is not a good sign, people would welcome a dictator to stamp out the other side.

It seems to have been carefully orchestrated, all I hear is how the politicians 'are out of touch'. What if they aren't? What if they know exactly the sentiment, what if they know the conclusion to this is the desired outcome?

If people don't alter the course, violence will erupt, and we will welcome the state taking away our freedom for the promise of protection. By the time we realize how terrible an idea it is, it will be too late, any dissension will be eliminated. The next generation will grow up in a world, where the concept of freedom is alien.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 07:04 AM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
If the majority elects Trump, violence will erupt in all corners of this nation.


I'm starting to think that no matter if he's elected or not there will be violence on the street over it. Time will tell of course but I'm wondering if all that urban tactical training stuff was in prep. for what's coming this election.

When the people elect Fascism for themselves you need to stop those who might protest it.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 07:13 AM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor

The Tea Party, Occupy Wall Street. They both were fighting the same enemy, and corporate media painted them into the right/left paradigm.




edit on 17-5-2016 by gladtobehere because: spacing



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 07:39 AM
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a reply to: draoicht

After the people eliminate all of their enemies, they create new ones to eliminate.

Works the same with pointing fingers at elements of society that cause problems, get rid of those problems and now we might as well move right on over here to this new one since we have the old one under control.

People who hate can eliminate that which they hate and find something else to hate and eliminate that too, and eventually move onto another group and another....And Another.

No matter how hard people try to right the wrongs in the world, they just never seem to get it right.

I think it has a lot to do with what you are aiming energy at, like aiming positive energy at a negative problem feeds the negative problem energy to grow stronger.

Bla Bla.....

Nothing makes sense, some things just can't be made right enough for enough people to agree on anything if too many aspects are considered.

We have been through this before, and got it as close to right as it could have been.



posted on May, 17 2016 @ 08:16 AM
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a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner

I agree with you.

The Committee sent quite a few of its own to the Place de la Concord for execution.

The point I was getting at is that the Right/Left narrative is the method whereby the people are divided against themselves.

While those who created the false narrative continue to enrich themselves.






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