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'I was Raised by an Islamist Terror Cult in America'

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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:00 PM
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The Clarion Project has been in contact with a woman who grew up within Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a cultish Sufi Islamist terrorist group that now goes by the name of Muslims of the Americas. The group is best known for establishing "Islamic villages" on U.S. soil, for example, its "Islamberg" headquarters in New York state. She has agreed to anonymously come forward with her heartbreaking story. We have removed details for her safety. She provided photographs and specific facts that are unavailable in the public sphere that we subsequently confirmed.
Her story delves into one of the cult branches of islam and know doubt some on ATS will call this story bull#. Anyway, it's another look into the dark side of religion and the effect it had on this young person growing up in Michigan.www.clarionproject.org...




posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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a reply to: tommo39

If she had something simple like an address alot can be confirmed or dismissed on a basic view using google earth. Seems kind of anti-climatic and searching for doomers (and I don't mean you)



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: Brotherman

You obviously didn't read the full story as she gave the address in Michigan where she grew up as a child.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:21 PM
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originally posted by: tommo39
a reply to: Brotherman

You obviously didn't read the full story as she gave the address in Michigan where she grew up as a child.





"Islamic villages" on U.S. soil, for example, its "Islamberg" headquarters in New York state.


How about that tid bit and that was in the op? I could give a # less where she grew up because that don't matter much.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:44 PM
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On the Clarion Project.


Among its many questionable claims, the site asserts that "there are 35 Radical Islamic communities spread across the United States"[8] and that the U.S. legal and financial systems have been infiltrated by "Stealth Jihad."[9]

In another post implying that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon, a view not shared by the U.S. intelligence community, the site claims that the concept of mutually assured destruction, which kept a lid on U.S.-Soviet escalations during the Cold War, "is not sufficient to deter Iran from firing [a nuclear weapon] as Radical Muslims see martyrdom as the path to heaven and utter triumph." The post also claimed that "Iranian theologians have decreed that atomic weapons are permissible to use under Islamic law,"[10] even though Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has issued a binding fatwa against the use of such weapons.

Many of Clarion’s “fact sheets” have to do with Iran. One such report, titled, “The Iranian Nuclear Program,” reiterates the claim that “evidence abounds” that the Iranian government “long term desire is to obtain nuclear weapons.”[11]


rightweb.irc-online.org...
Though I know you like to speak any anti Islam story reglardless of the source just thought you might like to know a little bit about your source.
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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:49 PM
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Sufi Muslims are the pacifist mystic path of Islam that as far as I know has no terrorists as they are considered verging on apostate and of all the Muslims in America almost zero are Sufi.

This is crap.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: Brotherman

terrorcamps.com/usa-known-terror-camps/


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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: tommo39

Firstly, I'm not suggesting that this has never happened to some people. In this case however, I have to say it reads like propaganda.

If in fact she has first hand information about a terrorist group, then why has she not contacted the FBI. The sentence "I do believe some of those violent Muslims may attempt to kill me", is hogwash. Witness protection has been around for a very long time.

If in fact she was molested as she claims, then why has she not contacted the Police.

Her statement "Living in the building was like living in a Muslim country", how could she possibly know that?.

This next little extract;



We were not allowed to listen to music or watch commercials. They didn’t want us to be influenced by them. There were some odd rules like the children couldn’t have cabbage patch dolls. They were called “evil.” The Smurfs were considered demonic. This was true of my entire time with Fuqra. There was a tape recorder that I’d use to secretly record kids shows on the TV like Kids Incorporated. I only learned the pop songs from that time by hearing them sung on that show. I didn’t even hear Michael Jackson’s “Beat It” until much later in life. I’d try to memorize the songs in a closet because I couldn’t be caught listening to them.


HTF did she manage to achieve that??? if that place was such a hell hole.

All in all there are too many near clichéd suggestions designed specifically to garner an extreme reaction, such as;



In the 1990s, I heard several rumors. I heard that Sheikh Gilani was barred from entering the U.S. because he was suspected of being involved in a terrorist attack involving an airplane


Really, an airplane.

Kind Regards
Myselfaswell
edit on 16-5-2016 by myselfaswell because: slarty bartfast



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 09:10 PM
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a reply to: tommo39

Well you know I figured I would actually do some research on the Clarion Project before I make my opinion on the story.

Seems like I'm not the only one questioning the source either

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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 09:40 PM
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a reply to: tommo39

There you go again believing a website without checking the facts.


"The newly reported Shelbyville camp is approximately 90 miles from Chattanooga and about 57 miles south, southeast of Nashville," he writes. Terrorcamps.com conveniently positions a graphic of a target over the east side of the Shelbyville square -- directly across from the courthouse, of all places -- as if that were the home of the camp.

Honestly: Do you think Bedford County's "good old boys" -- and I mean that in a positive manner -- would put up with something like that here? Not gonna happen.

The blogger says camps are also located near Dover and Paris, Tennessee. Gun owners posted to the sigforum.com message board, saying they'd been in touch with sheriffs in those counties who also totally discredited the reports.





www.t-g.com...

Once again. Terrorcamps.com has been found to be spreading lies but I'm not surprised. I will call it out though



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 09:46 PM
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I just want to add that I grew up Pentecostal , we had neighbors who were very devout Baptist. They had 5 or 6 kids when I was growing up, 4 of them were "our age" (myself and my sisters).

Long story short, they were great people. He was a hardworking man, his wife was an amazing mom, but I once brought the Lion King VHS over to their house after I got it for a birthday one year and I was chased out. Seriously. He yelled and chased me out of the door for bringing the demonic, witchcraft, "animals can't talk" movie into his house. Needless to say it led to an interesting encounter with my father and him (one of them thinks a cartoon is the devil, the other sits in church and listens to "not even a language" gibberish from the pastors wife every Sunday...)

Long story longer, people complaining about the religious preferences of others is a losing and idiotic battle.


a reply to: myselfaswell



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:27 PM
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a reply to: Joecanada11

That whole article claims they are right-wing, therefor they are bad. Any criticism of Islam is islamophobia, therefor they are Islamophobic. It cites CAIR, who claims it is an Isreali conspiracy. It's nonsense.

I mean look at their Advisory board.
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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:31 PM
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a reply to: TheTory

The article is from the Shelbyville Gazeete. Their local news source. Terrorcamps.com made an accusation that there was a terror training camp in Shelbyville. The authorities confirmed this to be false. Done.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: Joecanada11

I was speaking of your source, actually.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: DuckforcoveR
I just want to add that I grew up Pentecostal , we had neighbors who were very devout Baptist. They had 5 or 6 kids when I was growing up, 4 of them were "our age" (myself and my sisters).

Long story short, they were great people. He was a hardworking man, his wife was an amazing mom, but I once brought the Lion King VHS over to their house after I got it for a birthday one year and I was chased out. Seriously. He yelled and chased me out of the door for bringing the demonic, witchcraft, "animals can't talk" movie into his house. Needless to say it led to an interesting encounter with my father and him (one of them thinks a cartoon is the devil, the other sits in church and listens to "not even a language" gibberish from the pastors wife every Sunday...)

Long story longer, people complaining about the religious preferences of others is a losing and idiotic battle.


a reply to: myselfaswell



Geez... i guess these "great people" didn't know their bible very well...

Said book contains a talking snake and a talking donkey...

lol




posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:56 PM
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a reply to: TheTory

Right on the clarion project. Okay here's another.


The film, the Third Jihad, was created by the shadowy Clarion Fund, which did not return the Times’ requests for comment.

Coupling today’s Times report, ThinkProgress is releasing a list of grants [PDF] directed to the Clarion Fund. The document, which discloses that Manhattan attorney Allen I. Grosscontributed $100,000 to the Clarion Fund in 2007, is the most comprehensive mapping of Clarion’s donor base to date.

Clarion burst onto the scene in 2006with the movie Obsession: Radical Islam’s War Against the West. In 2008, more than 20 million copies of the film were distributed to homes in presidential election swing states thanks to a $17 million donation,reportedly by right-wing and GOP donor Barre Seid. (Another U.S. group that aided the release later denied involvement but was found to be misleading reporters in order to cover up its role. The head of the group now sits on Clarion’s advisory board.)


thinkprogress.org...



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: Joecanada11

So what? I don't understand why you're against it or why you find it isn't credible. Surely you have a reason.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: TheTory

Why I am against the clarion project. Because they throw out stories without proper sources , verification and journalistic checks and balances. They have no purpose to to spread dear of Islam and the "supposed" takeover.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: TheTory

Why I am against the clarion project. Because they throw out stories without proper sources , verification and journalistic checks and balances. They have no purpose to to spread dear of Islam and the "supposed" takeover.


But their advisory board is middle eastern activists and Muslims, who just so happen to oppose political activism and extremism.

You oppose these people?

Advisory board



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