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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: yuppa
You beat me to it -- that's what I was alluding to ... eugenics.
The idea we can "fix" people who live lifestyles we don't agree with, eh?
How about racism? Maybe we can find some kind of medication, or remove a part of the brain to "cure" racism in people?
originally posted by: Konduit
An Anorexic person looks in the mirror and thinks they are fat, so we give them therapy and medication.
A man looks in the mirror and thinks he is a woman, and we give them an award and put them on the front page of a magazine.
Just so you know, I have no problem with trans people. I'm Atheist and despise religion. As time goes on however this trans thing is seeming more and more like a religion or cult and that is why I am somewhat concerned about it.
originally posted by: Liquesence
As I said in another thread:
They're just people.
As long as they don't hurt anyone, I don't care what they do, because it doesn't personally affect (or bother) me.
So, OP, they aren't hurting you or affecting your life in a negative way (and if you feel that they *are*, then you need to really look at and ponder *yourself,* because it's not them, it's you (and everyone else getting their panties' in wads)).
But you say
I only say a cure because, well, what's better, paying a ton of cash and risking your life to feel normal, or just feeling normal from the start..?
I admit I dont' understand the trans thing, but I am for equal rights of all.
I got it now. You're only wanting to look out for and "help" them, or at least you want to *normalize* something you don't understand under the GUISE of helping them.
Got it. smh
Just let them be. They seem to be doing just fine until people get all in their business and think they don't deserve x or they should be doing y, like everyone else.
One of the biggest studies on the experiences of transgender people was the 2011 National Transgender Discrimination Survey (NTDS). It found that in the U.S., 41 percent of transgender and gender non-conforming people had attempted suicide, compared to a national average of just 4.6 percent.
originally posted by: z00mster
The OP has a point if you consider the basis of the fenomenon of transsexuality: a person that considers him/herself as belonging to the other sex they were born in and having the wish to actually make the transformation (which is different from transgenderism where the person does not wish to make the transition).
The person in question would be suffering from being born in a body that has the wrong sex.
Sometimes these people find out very early, in childhood even. And the parents can see it and feel it too. It is obvious that there has been some weird 'mistake' if you can call it that.
This person can maybe go through childhood pretty easy because you can mask your gender by adjusting your hair and clothes accordingly.
In comes puberty with its gender specific hormones changing the body so drastically, that hair and clothes are simply not cutting it.
Apart from the physicality involved, consider the trauma endured by these individuals. Dealing with how they view their selves and dealing with how others view them. Seeing the only 'cure' is to be in a body that has the correct sex.
But changing sex is not so easy. There is a lot of convincing to do before you even receive so much as a hormone treatment. By the time this person has had a sex change operation a lot of damage has been done.
I don't want to be demeaning but it reminds me of the importance of software testing. The sooner the flaw is noticed and corrected in the process, the less are the costs.
Now if only this 'fault' could be detected and corrected as early as in the womb, I think a lot of transexuals would endorse it. Because they know what they had to go through.
Now I am not for this kind of genetic manipulation. Heck when I was pregnant , I didn't even want to test for down syndrome even though I could. People shouldn't mess with nature unless it saves lives or immense suffering. But I believe that transexuals do suffer from their 'condition'.
I think (or hope) the OP meant to say that it would be a good thing for transexuals if we could find a way to have them born in the correct body in the first place.
Ethically this would take a lot of debating and research before a treatment like this would ever be possible (if at all). I am still on the fence for this one.