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Is anyone working on a cure for trans people?

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posted on May, 19 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Do you, out of curiosity, understand what a transgendered person has to go through to get gender reassigned? I do, I've got a relative who has gone this route. Here is a hint, you have to convince at least two psychiatrists of the need.

Teens alter their bodies, and have done for generations. Tattoos, piercings, brandings, scarification, various other extreme changes. Hell certain ethnic groups out there do things, which fit the OP's descriptions.

Basically, stop sticking your nose into other peoples lives.




posted on May, 19 2016 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Do you, out of curiosity, understand what a transgendered person has to go through to get gender reassigned? I do, I've got a relative who has gone this route. Here is a hint, you have to convince at least two psychiatrists of the need.

Teens alter their bodies, and have done for generations. Tattoos, piercings, brandings, scarification, various other extreme changes. Hell certain ethnic groups out there do things, which fit the OP's descriptions.

Basically, stop sticking your nose into other peoples lives.

Basically...I'll stick my nose any god damn place I want to. But lets address your dodging response for a second. Teens have no right to undergo body modification surgery without parental permission. But if you approve of the idea of a child having their penis cut off, molded into a bad representation of a vagina and re-attached...please...for the love of everything, don't have children. But then again...you are probably of the mentality that if you slice and dice yourself you become something different. You do...but only on the outside. You remain what you were born regardless of the complexity of the disguise. It remains a costume and a lie.

And yes...I do understand (basically) what is required for sex change surgery. I just disagree that the right way to treat a mental illness is to alter the body to match the delusion. I would in fact...call it criminal.
edit on 5/19/2016 by WeAreAWAKE because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

You are engaging in a number of logical fallacies with your argument neighbor. You have to first illustrate that a great many teens are having this done. I dodged nothing, I stated the facts. You need PERMISSION to have the procedure. You also need (generally) money. Thus in the case of teens, your parents will need to be involved. Unless the child manages to gain emancipation from their parents.
All you have demonstrated is a poor understanding of the situation.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Thank you for sharing important information about the subject - it's important and we should be raising awareness about how this topic is affecting the current movement and disrupting the peace



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 06:04 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa

i HATEEEEEEEEE MEN. All my friends are female. Men are to loud, noisy, obnoxious. pig headed,ego tistical, self centered,small minded, gotta have it now,my way or the highway,spoiled little brats.(no offense to any males on ATS) Uugh if they invented a pill to change men into hermaphrodite women and fix it so they could still procreate that be great.


Oh look, the most blatant, textbook example of ACTUAL bigotry in the whole damn thread gets posted by a tranny and the SJW's have gone completely silent.

Which one of you bleeding hearts is going to come give this bigot a proper thrashing?


edit on 19-5-2016 by Bone75 because: went a little too far with that last bit



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: Bone75

You get many of us don't see all the replies? Just curious if you get that most people reply to replies after they have made an initial scan.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

Is that all you have to say?



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: Bone75

To you yes. As that is all that is needed. But as you are an obtuse sort. Let me make it clearer

I did not see that post, thus have not replied to it.

IS that clear enough? Or perhaps we can talk about why you think I am a bleeding heart, for being against bigotry? That would be off topic for this thread.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 06:17 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

By all the gods, in all of human history, what are you trying to say here? Can you try to be coherent?

Because from what I can translate into Englsih from that post, you seem to be going on a rant against me. That can't be right can it? No seriously.

Clarify (mmm butter).



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

You are engaging in a number of logical fallacies with your argument neighbor. You have to first illustrate that a great many teens are having this done. I dodged nothing, I stated the facts. You need PERMISSION to have the procedure. You also need (generally) money. Thus in the case of teens, your parents will need to be involved. Unless the child manages to gain emancipation from their parents.
All you have demonstrated is a poor understanding of the situation.

You are, as always, welcome to your opinion and welcome to tell me you disagree with mine. But it changes little. A mental issue is best addressed as such via psychology and discussion. To mutilate the body as a "solution" to a mental illness is bordering insane. Besides "transgender", I can think of no other mental illness that is "treated" by accepting the defect and surgically alternating the body to match the false belief in the mind. In the sake of other cosmetic surgery, it is just fine for a legal adult to do as they please with their bodies. But children are a different story.

In short...don't cut of your child's penis just because he says he wants it. Allow him to decide for himself after he gets through puberty and becomes a responsible adult.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Again please post where the spieght of this is happening? No seriously.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: Noinden

I'll give you one but you know how to use Google.

Here is one



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: yuppa

i HATEEEEEEEEE MEN. All my friends are female. Men are to loud, noisy, obnoxious. pig headed,ego tistical, self centered,small minded, gotta have it now,my way or the highway,spoiled little brats.(no offense to any males on ATS) Uugh if they invented a pill to change men into hermaphrodite women and fix it so they could still procreate that be great.


Oh look, the most blatant, textbook example of ACTUAL bigotry in the whole damn thread gets posted by a tranny and the SJW's have gone completely silent.

Which one of you bleeding hearts is going to come give this bigot a proper thrashing?



Youre missing a key point here. IM BIOLOGICALLY A MALE. SO I have the privlidge thank you very much.



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: yuppa

By all the gods, in all of human history, what are you trying to say here? Can you try to be coherent?

Because from what I can translate into Englsih from that post, you seem to be going on a rant against me. That can't be right can it? No seriously.

Clarify (mmm butter).


Did I specify you? No i didnt. i was ranting about how ALOT of MEN are. The person you quoted earlier. Knows Im biologically a male but chose to score points by leaving that out. A little intellectually dishonest dont you think?



posted on May, 19 2016 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: yuppa

i HATEEEEEEEEE MEN. All my friends are female. Men are to loud, noisy, obnoxious. pig headed,ego tistical, self centered,small minded, gotta have it now,my way or the highway,spoiled little brats.(no offense to any males on ATS) Uugh if they invented a pill to change men into hermaphrodite women and fix it so they could still procreate that be great.


Oh look, the most blatant, textbook example of ACTUAL bigotry in the whole damn thread gets posted by a tranny and the SJW's have gone completely silent.

Which one of you bleeding hearts is going to come give this bigot a proper thrashing?



Youre missing a key point here. IM BIOLOGICALLY A MALE. SO I have the privlidge thank you very much.


Wait.... what? So when you're bashing men you're a man, but any other time you're a woman?



posted on May, 20 2016 @ 12:32 AM
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originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: yuppa

i HATEEEEEEEEE MEN. All my friends are female. Men are to loud, noisy, obnoxious. pig headed,ego tistical, self centered,small minded, gotta have it now,my way or the highway,spoiled little brats.(no offense to any males on ATS) Uugh if they invented a pill to change men into hermaphrodite women and fix it so they could still procreate that be great.


Oh look, the most blatant, textbook example of ACTUAL bigotry in the whole damn thread gets posted by a tranny and the SJW's have gone completely silent.

Which one of you bleeding hearts is going to come give this bigot a proper thrashing?



Youre missing a key point here. IM BIOLOGICALLY A MALE. SO I have the privlidge thank you very much.


Wait.... what? So when you're bashing men you're a man, but any other time you're a woman?


AHEM. im Gender dysphoric. Ya know woman in a mans body. THAT is what I am. I forget though that its easy to forget.



posted on May, 20 2016 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: Boadicea

Thank you for sharing important information about the subject - it's important and we should be raising awareness about how this topic is affecting the current movement and disrupting the peace


You're welcome -- and thank YOU. Unfortunately, I fear for those who will be hurt before we -- the collective "we" -- understand the true nature of this particular beast. And by "beast" I mean the heterosexual men who will exploit this social engineering for their own perverse and abusive ways... trans or otherwise.



posted on May, 20 2016 @ 12:48 PM
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understand the true nature of this particular beast. And by "beast" I mean the heterosexual men who will exploit this social engineering for their own perverse and abusive ways
a reply to: Boadicea


Nice way to brush all heterosexual males as perverse and abusive. Some of us have never abused anyone or indulged in perversions. Scandalous



posted on May, 20 2016 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: woodwardjnr


Nice way to brush all heterosexual males as perverse and abusive. Some of us have never abused anyone or indulged in perversions. Scandalous


Hmmm.... I never said "all" heterosexual men, and I sure wouldn't make such a presumption... but I also understand that one-size-never-fits-all. Just as I know that not all men are perverts and rapists, I also understand that some men are. I also understand that statistically speaking heterosexual men are far more likely to be perverts and rapists than homosexual men, hence my distinction.

Perhaps that's why I also understand that MEN forcing WOMEN to accept abusive and perverted heterosexual males into women's most vulnerable places and situations is dangerous and will not end well for many women and girls.

Scandalous indeed.



posted on May, 20 2016 @ 02:14 PM
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"Why do I say it's a mental illness?
I say so because it is either physical or mental, and since it's in their heads it must be mental. They change their bodies to match what their minds are feeling. There is nothing wrong with a mental illness, I have one in fact, an anxiety problem. It's in the brain, therefore classified as a mental illness. I say illness because it negatively affects their lives in some way, example - having to change sexes in order to feel normal."

Stating by a person who never experienced what's like to be a transgender. You have no authority to place a diagnose over someone because you can't understand it. Back in the days homosexuality was considered a 'mental illness'. Anxiety is a condition caused by intense fear. It has 0 to do with how someone identify themselves as.

What you're speaking about 'having to change to feel normal' is no different then any other man or woman feeling they need to look attractive or do something to make themselves feel better ect.. it comes from self esteem issues.

"The cure would be finding a way of detecting which people would become trans and go through these procedures. You would have to have a way of detecting very early which fetuses would grow into adults who would be known as trans, and genetically switch them while they are a fetus, before they are even born. This way they would never be trans, they would by default be the actual sex / gender they in their adult life would identify as. This would totally make trans obsolete, it would never be a thing, therefore never a problem for anyone."

I would agree with this of it were true that you can somehow 'stop progression or not' of a fetus but we don't have that tech. The only problem is people who mock, judge, bully a trans. Transgendered people should be able to express themselves, and be accepted. The solution is to help awareness for acceptance. If people just accept trans. Nobody would feel 'offended' by how someone does with there own bodies.

"A male who switches to female will never have a real female body. They will never have a uterus or ovaries, or be able to have children as a woman. They will never be able to breastfeed etc etc. They will never have a real female orgasm. Why not just be born as a female instead of going through all the pain and heartache? Wouldn't they have a much happier and better life being born as the sex they want and growing up as that? Wouldn't they rather have real genitals of the sex they feel they are, instead of a butchered penis reversed into a fake vagina?"

You speaking about potential future things, not present. Trans probably would be happier but that's not the case. You can actually help drastically if the trans was helped before puberty. If a girl who identified as boy. You can prevent feminist features 'boobs, body development' ect.. and more masculine features.


"In the natural world, being straight is normal. Being gay is normal. Being asexual is normal. Being hermaphrodite is normal, but I have never heard of a trans animal before though. This is why I think this is a mental illness of humans and not something natural."

What you call 'natural world' is nothing more the self perspective. It's normal for humans to kill, rape, rob ect.. as much as humans showing compassion, love, acceptance ect... because that's how nature designed us. Nature designed us to have these abilities to behave, think, act ect... Nature does not give a damn about anything or anyone. It doesn't care if you died, doesn't care if you won the lottery. Doesn't care if you had sex with 10,000 people. Nature has no place in your point of being 'not natural'.

"In nature there are animals who switch sex but that is for reproducing and multiplying etc. It's not done because a female dog feels like a male dog on the inside or a male chimpanzee feels like a woman chimpanzee and wants to identify as the opposite.. "

and animals rob, rape, and kill other members. What animals do has no impact on the human race and how they run. Humans behave and think differently. We also don't thrive on instincts. You can't relate animals to humans when it comes to intellectual subjects or compare what they do to us. We know rape is immoral (most people) but animals don't rationalized that.

"Human trans people cannot reproduce or multiply after a sex change. It seems so unnatural, so it must be a human made problem of some sort."

Neither can herms, and infertile people.

"I don't remember hearing about people in history being trans either. In the thousands or hundreds of thousands of years humans have been around and history was recorded, I don't remember ever reading about trans until recently - another reason I don't think it is natural. "
History=/=validation point.

"Also, for all of human history there was 2 sexes or genders with hermaphrodite on the side. Now in the last 10 years of my life, there are suddenly over 30 sexes and genders..??? huh? What's going on here.? What is causing this? "
History=/=validation point.

"This isn't a hate thing, this is a science / medical / logic thing."
No, this is not logical thinking. It's passing judgement on something you don't understand by condemning it as something as 'unnatural' and 'it's a illness'

You stated with no actual facts, documentation, or any evidence of any short. You stated out of your own personal reasoning.



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