a reply to: DumpMaster
This is a really good question. I expect to be absolutely excoriated and vilified for this response, but someone has to say it and since I now know,
I guess it's gonna be me...
Conventional wisdom says that transitioning is the cure. And that may very well be true for some. It may also be true that the cure for many is to
clean up the endocrine-disrupters and synthetic hormones from our food, water and air supply. For others, the cure would seem to be getting society
to stop trying to define what a "real" man or woman is and accepting that people come in all varieties and letting people "do them" without
interference or judgment. But there seems to be one segment of the transgender population who do not want a "cure" because they like the "sickness."
Specifically, the heterosexual males who are sexually aroused at the thought of being a woman. They don't want to be cured... they just want to
indulge their fantasies and that requires everyone else -- you and me -- to believe they are "real" women. It seems that they have hijacked and are
directing the current transgender rights movement, bullying anyone and everyone who refuses to play their assigned role in this fantasy: By accepting
them as "real" women.
It's generally known as "autogynephilia," and was first reported in the 80s by Ray Blanchard. Many have tried and/or claim to have debunked this
idea, but those who identify as autogynephiles -- including the associated narcissism -- have kind of thrown a wrench into their "debunking" and thus
proven otherwise. As some have pointed out, the theory is sound -- i.e., that they are indeed sexually aroused at the thought of being a woman and
wearing and acting like a "woman" -- but they take objection to it being considered a fetish or paraphilia. And to the extent that their desires do
not harm anyone else, they are correct that there is nothing wrong or bad about it. Whatever two or more consenting adults want to do is their
The problem is when their desires -- and narcissism -- progress to a point that others are involuntarily involved, and even harmed, when others refuse
to accept them as "real" women. And because autogynephilia is considered a progressive condition -- i.e., progressing from wanting to touch women's
clothing to wanting to wear women's clothing to wanting to act like a woman to wanting to be seen as a woman and to wanting to have sex as a woman --
the associated narcissism also progresses, as does narcissistic rage (and violence) when their fantasties are not fulfilled. Sometimes that rage is
directed inwards and results in suicidal ideation and intentions. Other times their rage is directed towards others -- especially women, but also
within the LGBT community.
It is a sad fact that much of the violence against transgenders and the LGBT community at large is perpetuated by transgenders. Despite the common
meme here on ATS that it's just Christians and conservatives who have a problem with transgenders, many folks understand that not all transgenders are
created equal, and that these heterosexual male transgenders are a problem. Including many feminists who rightfully resent the effort by these men to
shut down any discussions or activities regarding the issues of women (who were born women), lesbians who resent and resist being told that they must
have sex with these men or they are transphobes (called the "cotton ceiling"), the true intersex folks who have seen their unique health issues
co-opted by those claiming to be intersex (what most know as hermaphrodites -- born with both male and female organs), and especially the homosexual
transgenders/transsexuals who have completely different issues/perspectives (and who are often terrified of these transgenders, knowing their
propensity for violence, and knowing they are often the victims).
I have read that female hormone therapy have benefitted some of these heterosexual transgenders and alleviated and/or eliminated their conditions. I
have also read that simply blocking the male hormones -- and thus reducing their libido -- has also been effective. But I have also read that many
who begin taking the hormones and/or hormone blockers stop, because they don't want to stop feeling the sexual arousal that it causes. Hence my
assertion that many do not want to be cured, because they enjoy the "sickness."
Here are a few links to help explain the issues further/better:
On the Science of Changing Sex
Blanchard's transsexualism typology (Autogynephilia)
Cotton ceiling and autogynephilia
Radical feminism ("TERFs")
If you are interested and private message me, I can also provide links to show how the above mentioned groups have been bullied and threatened with
violence -- including rape and death -- if they dare to defy the autogynephile's demands. (Yes, these trans "women" are threatening to rape women
with their male parts... doesn't sound like any woman I know.) Not to mention the many sad experiences of "trans widows" who have been bullied and
abused by their trans husbands. But many of the links are quite vulgar and violent, and probably not appropriate to post here. I have a lot going on
and may not get back to you right away, but be patient and I will as soon as I can.
I am not an expert on the subject and do not claim to be, and I've only just started researching the issue. I only learned about it while trying to
research the rates of childhood abuse of transgenders. The general impression I get is that there is a huge resistance to further studying this
aspect and to simply push the "but they really really feel like a women" and "how dare you challenge their brain sex" etc, so it has not been studied
sufficiently for any definitive answers. But it is "a thing" and needs to be addressed in the national debate and discussion.