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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: Pinocchio
Is It At All Possible That The Rituals Themselves Give Any Hint Or Clue As To The Beginning Of The Craft... ???


Rituals get altered and "improved" over the ages. It's really difficult to track something based on it.




posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79




The printing press, an automated version of a much earlier device, the printing screw plate. Introduced by the Romans in the 1st century AD.


This is your claim, just like the coin and taxes yesterday with August..

Source your claims.. Is that so hard.. ?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79




The printing press, an automated version of a much earlier device, the printing screw plate. Introduced by the Romans in the 1st century AD.


This is your claim, just like the coin and taxes yesterday with August..

Source your claims.. Is that so hard.. ?


I would, but it would be off topic.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79




posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79



So you offer nothing in context?

Thanks for playing. Want a cookie?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79




The printing press, an automated version of a much earlier device, the printing screw plate. Introduced by the Romans in the 1st century AD.


This is your claim, just like the coin and taxes yesterday with August..

Source your claims.. Is that so hard.. ?


I would, but it would be off topic.


No its actually relevant, you claim the printing came before the Gutenberg, meaning Freemasonry could get their hands on a Bible.. And i say well no, they were written and copied and it took years..

Its relevant, its just that you cant source your claim.. Transparent is my motto when it comes to stories portrayed as real..



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79




The printing press, an automated version of a much earlier device, the printing screw plate. Introduced by the Romans in the 1st century AD.


This is your claim, just like the coin and taxes yesterday with August..

Source your claims.. Is that so hard.. ?


I would, but it would be off topic.


No its actually relevant, you claim the printing came before the Gutenberg, meaning Freemasonry could get their hands on a Bible.. And i say well no, they were written and copied and it took years..
Printing was around before the Gutenberg press.


Its relevant, its just that you cant source your claim.. Transparent is my motto when it comes to stories portrayed as real..
Not really. All it would prove is stuff was printed quicker than it was previously.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Wow.. You cant even verify a single source..

And then you make up stories.. wow...

What did they print on?

Edit: You see Terry, this is how it works.. If you claim something,your prove it, you cant just make up stories as you go..
There is reason the bible exist, there is a reason freemasonry exist.. There is a reason for mostly everything, things dont just appear out of thin air..Usually the reason things exist is much more simple, and has to do with human nature more than a story..

Everything else Is just your imagination..
edit on 16-5-2016 by PanPiper because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79

Wow.. You cant even verify a single source..
I don't need to. Google it.


And then you make up stories.. wow...
I'm still waiting for your proof of "the stories are bs".


What did they print on?
Printable objects.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: PanPiper

Edit: You see Terry, this is how it works.. If you claim something,your prove it, you cant just make up stories as you go..
There is reason the bible exist, there is a reason freemasonry exist.. There is a reason for mostly everything, things dont just appear out of thin air..Usually the reason things exist is much more simple, and has to do with human nature more than a story..

Everything else Is just your imagination..


Still waiting for your proof of your claims. In English.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Yeah i think im gonna leave the thread, it becomes kinda childish when grown ups cant verify a single source..

1717, That is where the history starts.. Everything else.. Is stories..

If you ever feel like coming in to the grown up world, give me a call..



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79

Yeah i think im gonna leave the thread, it becomes kinda childish when grown ups cant verify a single source..
Wheres your proof it's bs?


1717, That is where the history starts.. Everything else.. Is stories..
ACTUALLY, I've found evidence of it going back further. Looking like 10th century AD.


If you ever feel like coming in to the grown up world, give me a call..
Says the person who hasn't offered anything to the thread and keeps going on about bibles?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

I stated facts, not stories.. That is what i offered..




I've found evidence of it going back further. Looking like 10th century AD.


Source it, not harder than that.. unbiased source



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79

I stated facts, not stories.. That is what i offered..
Yet you haven't backed them up. Tut tut!




Source it, not harder than that.. unbiased source
Source
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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

So you make the claim that The Royal house of England and King Edward III and todays Freemasonry is the same?

Any other mason want to back that up? Im all ears.. Do you make that claim?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:49 AM
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is this a contest ?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79

So you make the claim that The Royal house of England and King Edward III and todays Freemasonry is the same?

Any other mason want to back that up? Im all ears.. Do you make that claim?


I fail to see how this is relevant.

Want to get on topic at some point?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: kibric
is this a contest ?


No. Just one member who thinks he knows all about freemasonry and keeps calling it bs.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

how far have you got terry ?

found any ancient links yet ?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: kibric
a reply to: TerryDon79

how far have you got terry ?

found any ancient links yet ?


I've found information going back to the 10th century AD. Link

That's as far back as I've got so far.




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