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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 07:52 AM
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It would be great to have an idea of how we went from operative to speculative and at which point in history. There must have been a large area where both were practiced simultaneously, but that info seems really hard to come by.




posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

I stumbled across that before. It's very speculative, but thanks



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: PanPiper

Why are you going about the bible? This thread is about Freemasonry and its history.

Here, I'll help.

History of F R E E M A S O N R Y
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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Freemasonry has biblical foundations and there is not anything separating a regular Bible from a Freemason bible..
I think your atheist approach is clouding your judgement.. I heard a whisper that you are a teenager.. Is that true? If thats the case i understand your point of view on the world..
edit on 16-5-2016 by PanPiper because: seventeen to be precise..



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79

Freemasonry has biblical foundations and there is not anything separating a regular Bible from a Freemason bible..
I think your atheist approach is clouding your judgement.. I heard a whisper that you are a teenager.. Is that true? If thats the case i understand your point of view on the world..


So far, people who have commented have offered something to go with what they're saying. Where's your proof?

(No, not a teenager. Far from it)



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Ill link one of their pages link

Then i heard wrong..



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79

Ill link one of their pages link

Then i heard wrong..


So the Freemason bible is the same as a regular bible? How is that something I didn't already know?

Also, I thought you said freemasonry was formed in 1717?

From the link you provided...

...from the time of Freemasonry's Old Charges (1390 - 1714) and before, as well as to the current period.

That looks a bit older than 1717.

Do you understand English?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:27 AM
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maybe research " the patches of priest hood "


but i could be wrong

good luck



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Old testament was written in 1600BC, - - New testament in 325AD
And the King James bible in 1611... Maybe its magic

Do you know basic mathematics?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:43 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79

Old testament was written in 1600BC, - - New testament in 325AD
And the King James bible in 1611... Maybe its magic

Do you know basic mathematics?


I know your English is pretty bad, but this thread isn't about the age of bibles.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: kibric


maybe research " the patches of priest hood "


but i could be wrong

good luck


That's a very broad subject. I'll certainly look into it to see if there's any correlation through history. Who knows, right?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79

Cant have one without the other, Freemasonry is based on the Bible.. Without the Bible freemasonry would not even exist..

And since the printing press did not come about until 1440, and the bible was only printed in a few examples given to the Royal Houses of Europe..
The only other examples of the Bible were in the hand of the Church..

You see, you can make whatever story you want.. I know for a fact, their story is complete BS..



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79

Cant have one without the other, Freemasonry is based on the Bible.. Without the Bible freemasonry would not even exist..
So I guess the other religions have to follow Christianity?


And since the printing press did not come about until 1440, and the bible was only printed in a few examples given to the Royal Houses of Europe..
The only other examples of the Bible were in the hand of the Church..
The printing press, an automated version of a much earlier device, the printing screw plate. Introduced by the Romans in the 1st century AD.


You see, you can make whatever story you want.. I know for a fact, their story is complete BS..
Which story would that be?
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posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: PanPiper

" I know for a fact, their story is complete BS.. "

??????



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:58 AM
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The printing press, an automated version of a much earlier device, the printing plate. Introduced by the Romans in the 1st century AD.


On the right side of the Wikipedia page you have the "Year" of how and when things came in to the real world..

If you claim something, source it... Goes for everyone.. Story is still BS..


But you like stories?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 10:59 AM
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Is It At All Possible That The Rituals Themselves Give Any Hint Or Clue As To The Beginning Of The Craft... ???



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: TerryDon79




Which story would that be?


They lie, they intent of Freemasonry is to be a better man.. This atrocity they are portraying is sickening.. Nothing adds up, its just stories, intertwined to a mess..



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79




The printing press, an automated version of a much earlier device, the printing plate. Introduced by the Romans in the 1st century AD.


On the right side of the Wikipedia page you have the "Year" of how and when things came in to the real world..

If you claim something, source it... Goes for everyone.. Story is still BS..


But you like stories?


Your source

The concept of movable type was not new in the 15th century; movable type printing had been invented in China during the Song dynasty, and was later used in Korea during the Goryeo Dynasty, where metal movable-type printing technology was developed in 1234.[14][15]

That's one of many examples Gutenberg printing press.

Now. Where's your proof "the story is bs"?



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:02 AM
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originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: TerryDon79




Which story would that be?


They lie, they intent of Freemasonry is to be a better man.. This atrocity they are portraying is sickening.. Nothing adds up, its just stories, intertwined to a mess..


Proof?

Preferably in some form of coherent English, please.



posted on May, 16 2016 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: Pinocchio

Goes for any cult or religion.. They have rituals in most religions and cults.. Does not mean its true..



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