Chicago Public Schools Now Forcing Students To Use Requested Transgender Pronouns

a reply to: Annee

Why not as we have people transitioning into dragons and parrots now?

originally posted by: new_here
a reply to: Annee

However, opening peoples/parents minds to something that does exists - - might keep them from trying to force their kid into a stereotype gender.

Wrong. Advocating that children change genders to the one they feel they 'fit into' is enforcing gender stereotypes!

Thank you! I've tried to make this point over and over again. Maybe I simply was too verbose about it.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Annee

Why not as we have people transitioning into dragons and parrots now?

Variety is the spice of life

a reply to: Annee

I see, so when are you going to demand that either everyone speak English once you've made it "genderless"? After all, Spanish is rotten through with everything having gender?

I will expect that English being made the official language be the next big push for LGBT rights.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: queenofswords

Maybe it is time to stop encouraging the males to LOOK female by mutilation and chemistry and accept their body AND their mind as it is.....same for the females.

Who does that?

You do apparently.

originally posted by: Annee

Ignorance by choice.

So it looks like many people are 100% in favor of the government agenda:

1. Identify a minority group

2. Categorize and Isolate

3. Ignore standard Education

4. Ignore privacy choices that many in the targeted group may prefer and force exposures

5. Politicize the issues

6. Create a Central Committee and sub-Committees

a reply to: queenofswords

I could call you people pseudo psychologists as well, couldn't I? Do you have an advanced degree in psychology and have you been studying and researching the medical issue of transgenderism for years? Neither have I, but there are doctors/psychologists/endocrinologists who have. I'd trust their diagnosis and treatment recommendations before I'd trust yours.

No one is encouraging males to look female and visa versa by mutilation and chemistry. No one is forcing it. Therapy alone has been tried. It didn't work. Anti-depressants have been tried. They didn't work. Anti-psychotics have been tried. They didn't work. Telling kids that their body is fine the way it is has been tried. It didn't work.

The story of Leelah Acorn:

Two days after the teen's death, grieving in that stomach-punch way that only parents who have to bury a child understand, Carla Alcorn kept repeating that she loved her child.

Sometimes, just loving your child isn't enough. This mom thought she was doing the "right" thing by following your advice. Now she has a dead child.

www.cnn.com...

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: queenofswords

Maybe it is time to stop encouraging the males to LOOK female by mutilation and chemistry and accept their body AND their mind as it is.....same for the females.

Who does that?

I hate intentional obtuseness.

You know exactly what I'm saying. When YOU, meaning the pseudo psychs and their followers, continue to support the physical transformation procedures to do away with their natural body and replace it with a fake or altered one, perhaps....perhaps you are making a mistake. Perhaps you and they are missing an opportunity to discover exactly what this anomaly is all about.

Perhaps we should be telling these kids that have this chronic insistence they are in the wrong body that they are not faulty at all and begin to help them figure out exactly what they are----body and mind.

Maybe your support should be directed outside the box of physical transformation and into the spiritual transformation of accepting a new way of just being.

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: queenofswords

Maybe it is time to stop encouraging the males to LOOK female by mutilation and chemistry and accept their body AND their mind as it is.....same for the females.

Who does that?

I hate intentional obtuseness.

You know exactly what I'm saying. When YOU, meaning the pseudo psychs and their followers, continue to support the physical transformation procedures to do away with their natural body and replace it with a fake or altered one, perhaps....perhaps you are making a mistake. Perhaps you and they are missing an opportunity to discover exactly what this anomaly is all about.

Perhaps we should be telling these kids that have this chronic insistence that they are in the wrong body that they are not faulty at all and begin to help them figure out exactly what they are----body and mind.

Maybe your support should be directed outside the box of physical transformation and into the spiritual transformation of accepting a new way of just being.

From everything I've read and learned.

The complete opposite of encouraging these kids to be trans is what I've learned is being done.

Geeze, how many times has it been repeated by posters who actually know and those who've been acquainted with transgender children and their parents.

That everything else is tried first. That parents are in denial. Its a hard thing to accept.

Probably the very last thing parents of transgender kids do is search out specialists for Gender Dysphoria.

a reply to: kaylaluv

Neither have I, but there are doctors/psychologists/endocrinologists who have. I'd trust their diagnosis and treatment recommendations before I'd trust yours.

Yep and they're padding their pockets as they ride this train. So is Big Pharma with the off-label use of Lupron to block natural development of children. Wake up!!!

a reply to: Annee

Exactly. Remember Jadestar's story here on ATS? The struggles her parents went through? How they refused to accommodate their child at first, tried to reason and eventually to punish? It was only when she told her parents she would rather kill herself then to continue having to live life as a boy that they finally got her help. It was their last resort. Thank God they did it, because now she is a happy, healthy brilliant college student with a very bright future in front of her as an astrophysicist.

Oh and she took puberty blockers. It didn't seem to affect her brain negatively at all - she's brilliant.

a reply to: new_here

Trans kids are killing themselves when they don't get the expert care they need. WAKE UP!!!!

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Annee

Exactly. Remember Jadestar's story here on ATS? The struggles her parents went through? How they refused to accommodate their child at first, tried to reason and eventually to punish? It was only when she told her parents she would rather kill herself then to continue having to live life as a boy that they finally got her help. It was their last resort. Thank God they did it, because now she is a happy, healthy brilliant college student with a very bright future in front of her as an astrophysicist.

Oh and she took puberty blockers. It didn't seem to affect her brain negatively at all - she's brilliant.

I know.

It's been repeated over and over.

And still we get the "you should try something else instead of making them thing their in the wrong body".

As I stated: WHO DOES THAT?

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: new_here

Trans kids are killing themselves when they don't get the expert care they need. WAKE UP!!!!

They're killing themselves when they DO transition too- because they have a psychological problem that can't be fixed by altering their bodies. Wake Up!!!

a reply to: Annee

So you are saying I handle it wrong when my son insists he's Iron Man and I tell him he's not? I should seek out expert help to let him transition so that by the time he hits puberty he is ready to become what he feels now he is?

The point is that at what point are you merely an enabler of what would otherwise be a passing fancy? And at what point are you taking your child out of what YOU insist is one box so that you neatly pack into another wrapped with different colored ribbon?

a reply to: Annee

Maybe these kids become dysphoric because of society's insistence that one be either male or female. So, they choose to stress over that and choose the gender their mind tells them they are.

If society acknowledges that you don't have to be one or the other and perhaps a female mind in a male body is a new way of being, it would lessen their angst and dysphoria which is what leads to the desire to go to the extreme measures of altering their anatomy to match their mental state.

Like most studies have shown, most of these gender dysphoric kids outgrow it and go on to be what their chromosomes have programmed them to be.

But, for those that cannot get past the debilitating dysphoria of trying to reconcile the body/mind dissonance, perhaps they are having unnecessary stress placed upon them either by themselves, society, parents, so-called transgender experts, to go through painful surgeries and hormonal treatments.

If somehow we could help them see that there is a reason they have the body they have AND the mind they have, we may discover a whole different dimension of being. But, by altering the body, they may be missing out on something really unique to this 0.3 of 1 percent of the population.

a reply to: kaylaluv

And a few years from now we'll see teen girls killing themselves because they're an emotional wreck after the progressives pushed teenage boys with penises into their locker rooms to change with them.

a reply to: new_here

thinkprogress.org...

www.hrc.org...

However, early intervention is critical -- and potentially lifesaving. A staggering 45 percent of transgender people ages 18 to 24 have attempted suicide, according to the most recent National Transgender Discrimination Survey. The rate is even higher among those who are not recognized in society as their preferred gender. "It's important for parents to understand that with early intervention and family support, those statistics can plummet," says Darlene Tando, a gender therapist in private practice in San Diego. "These statistics are typically based on people who have transitioned later in life, after years of societal and family rejection."

www.parents.com...


Please. Wake up.

a reply to: queenofswords

Because this was not an issue throughout history until now, now that people are trying to redefine what all cultures and biology have already worked out.

Reinventing the wheel because someone insisting on using a square tire. They are surprised at being met with disagreement?