Classified went sent..Hillarys email drama

a reply to: RickinVa

And the IT guy Pagliano facilitated all of this. He was the only one smart enough to plead the 5th and make a deal with the FBI.
This is turning out to be a very large scandal; perhaps the largest we have ever seen.

originally posted by: xuenchen

And the ironic punch line is:

"Hours before Hillary Clinton was set to deliver a major foreign policy address Thursday"

Yep. While she is under investigation by the FBI.
She knows know shame.

So much for that "marked classifed" excuse.

The copies of the signed disclosures are here:

gop.com...

originally posted by: RickinVa
thehill.com...

That is sooo obviously a pro Hillary piece...lol

I know, lol. Totally spun, as if the RNC somehow
is responsible for the signed disclosures and the
illegal server.

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: RickinVa
thehill.com...

That is sooo obviously a pro Hillary piece...lol

I know, lol. Totally spun, as if the RNC somehow
is responsible for the signed disclosures and the
illegal server.

Yep.
The RNC 'Goon Squad' forced Hillary and her people to break all the rules (AT GUNPOINT!) !!

RNC Goon Squad. I kill me.
The freaking Republicans didn't convincingly fight Obama over one thing in the last seven+ years!

a reply to: RickinVa

Well that seals it !!!

The server needs to be in protective custody !!!

originally posted by: butcherguy

The RNC 'Goon Squad' forced Hillary and her people to break all the rules (AT GUNPOINT!) !!

And to think that the Secret Service was there every day and they
did nothing to stop the right wing conspiracy!

On the other hand, notice how no one is talking about
Dynastic rule now that the Bush family is out of 2016 picture?

As if 8 years of Clinton's in the White House doesn't count?

a reply to: carewemust

She has never trashed his economy or said anything but praise for his tenure. Where does this # come from?

a reply to: shooterbrody

Except so far there's not a shred of evidence to show that that info was ever at risk or that the system was unsecured. So where is your incorrect information coming from?

a reply to: Sillyolme

Except so far there's not a shred of evidence to show that that info was ever at risk or that the system was unsecured. So where is your incorrect information coming from?

Here is some information from the Inspector General of the State Department:

With regard to encryption, Secretary Clinton’s website states that “robust protections were put in place and additional upgrades and techniques employed over time as they became available, including consulting and employing third party experts.”150

Although this report does not address the safety or security of her system, DS and IRM reported to OIG that Secretary Clinton never demonstrated to them that her private server or mobile device met minimum information security requirements specified by FISMA and the FAM.

And she never asked for approval:

Diplomatic Security, Secretary Clinton had an obligation to discuss using her personal email account to conduct official business with their offices, who in turn would have attempted to provide her with approved and secured means that met her business needs.

...officials all stated that they were not asked to approve or otherwise review the use of Secretary Clinton’s server and that they had no knowledge of approval or review by other Department staff.

Office of the Secretary - Evaluation of Email Records Management and Cybersecurity Requirements (direct .pdf link)

Some shreds for you.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Doesn't matter what Hillary claims.


Off the shelf Blackberry's are the most easily comprised smartphones out there. Foreign intelligence agencies as well as our own love them and their users to death... makes their job so much easier.

The minute Hillary or any of her aides that were using Blackberry's tethered to that Enterprise server set foot in China, Russia or a host of other foreign countries, it was compromised.

To pretend otherwise is simply showing a severe lack of knowledge on how countries spy on other countries diplomats.

People already forgot how easily the US was able to set up shop next to a summit meeting and read the email traffic of foreign dignitaries using Blackberry's and other smart phones.

But but but but it's Hillary.... her server had a special super duper force field around it that prevented these things from occurring.

As I have said before, the FBI does not allow agents to visit certain countries with Bureau issued Blackberry's.. because even though they have some degree of protection above a off the shelf version, even those are very easily compromised... been like that for years.

Agents going to certain countries take blank cell phones with them,,, no email, no browser, no camera or microphone ... nothing but basic cell phone service.

EDIT: When visiting foreign countries where secure communications are vital, agents are issued cell phones or satellite phones that are capable of being loaded with a NSA approved type 1 encryption key at the SECRET or above level. This keeps the voice data secure.

Such as one of these phones: gdmissionsystems.com...

Type 1 encryption in a mobile phone

Regular and secure calls from the same phone both domestically and abroad with GSM worldwide coverage

NSA certified for Top Secret codeword and below

Approved for the encryption of all levels of NATO classified information

Features and conveniences of a commercial wireless phone

Secure Communications Interoperability Protocol (SCIP) compliant and interoperable

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Although the report does not address the safety or security of her system....

And she didn't ask them.
She's said in retrospect it wasn't a good idea. But none of that says anything about her computer being compromised or hacked..

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Although the report does not address the safety or security of her system....

And she didn't ask them.
She's said in retrospect it wasn't a good idea. But none of that says anything about her computer being compromised or hacked..

Hillary failed to report several hacking attempts, according to the IG report.
Washington Times

a reply to: butcherguy

Failed attempts and Hillary didn't fail to report any nd because they didn't happen. In both instances the system was shut done and the break in prevented. The rules were to report break ins not attempted break ins.
Did you read the IAG report?
It also didn't say Clinton broke any laws.
It reviewed several past SOS e mail systems. Said things need to be constantly up graded and made recommendations for the changes to be made.
It's available on line as a PDF it's not terribly long and is not written in legalese so it's easy for non lawyers to understand.

I didn't read the entire report but I read the conclusions and it didn't recommend disciplinary action against the Secretary.

a reply to: Sillyolme

The rules ... actually the law, required her to turn over her records, including emails when she left her postion of SOS.
She didn't.... until forced to, long afterwards.
She is a criminal.
Of course no disciplinary actions were recommended. ... she is no longer employed there... duh.

a reply to: Sillyolme


"I didn't read the entire report"

And every thing you have to say about it is null and void by your own admission.

a reply to: Sillyolme

I didn't read the entire report

Why not? After all, "it's not terribly long and is not written in legalese so it's easy for non lawyers to understand."

... but I read the conclusions and it didn't recommend disciplinary action against the Secretary.

That wasn't the purpose of the report.

Hillary kept spouting off about her gleeful cooperation with any and everyone who wanted to investigate her. If you had read the report, you would know that is a lie:

Through her counsel, Secretary Clinton declined OIG’s request for an interview. 7

...

7
In addition to Secretary Clinton, eight former Department employees declined OIG requests for interviews: (1) the Chief of Staff to Secretary Powell (2002-05); (2) the Counselor and Chief of Staff to Secretary Clinton (2009-13); (3) the Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy to Secretary Clinton (2009-11) and the Director of Policy Planning (2011-13); (4) the Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations to Secretary Clinton (2009-13); (5) the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Strategic Communication (2009-13); (6) the Director of the S/ES Office of Information Resources Management (2008-13); (7) a Special Advisor to the Deputy Chief Information Officer (2009-13) who provided technical support for Secretary Clinton’s personal email system; and (8) a Senior Advisor to the Department, who supervised responses to Congressional inquiries (2014-15). Two additional individuals did not respond to OIG interview requests: the Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources (2011-13) and an individual based in New York who provided technical support for Secretary Clinton’s personal email system but who was never employed by the Department.

Those people which are identifiable are:
(2) Cheryl Mills
(3) Anne-Marie Slaughter
(7) Bryan Pagliano

Failed attempts and Hillary didn't fail to report any nd because they didn't happen. In both instances the system was shut done and the break in prevented. The rules were to report break ins not attempted break ins.

Again, if you had read the entire thing, you would have learned the following:

Department policy requires employees to report cyber-security incidents to IRM security officials when any improper cyber-security practice comes to their attention. 12 FAM 592.4 (January 10, 2007). Notification is required when a user suspects compromise of, among other things, a personally owned device containing personally identifiable information. 12 FAM 682.2-6 (August 4, 2008). However, OIG found no evidence that the Secretary or her staff reported these incidents to computer security personnel or anyone else within the Department.

So, yes, even if an attempt is unsuccessful, it is to be reported.

Did you read the IAG report?

Yes, yes I did. The entire thing, several times. After all, "it's not terribly long and is not written in legalese so it's easy for non lawyers to understand."

a reply to: RickinVa

I have now read the entire report.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: shooterbrody

Except so far there's not a shred of evidence to show that that info was ever at risk or that the system was unsecured. So where is your incorrect information coming from?

www.politico.com...

"These details supplement defendant’s showing that it conducted a reasonable search, but cannot be disclosed on the public record without compromising information that the FBI seeks to protect," Justice Department lawyers wrote, citing FOIA exemption for ongoing government investigations and enforcement actions. Read more: www.politico.com... Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

If the info on her server that "cannot be disclosed on the public record without compromising information that the FBI seeks to protect" is not classified then what is it?
No matter how you try to spin this the server stored in an nonsecure location(a bathroom in a residence) is a crime.

She is in deep, and laws dealing with classification are not nearly as subjective as the Hillary spin machine would have the public believe.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: RickinVa

I have now read the entire report.

Excellent....so when do you think she will be recommended for indictment now that you know that, despite what she says, her use of her own private server to store classified information was not allowed and if she had asked would have been denied?

a reply to: Sillyolme

The server itself was illegal:

Classified Information will not be processed on any equipment unless it has been certified and accredited for classified processing (refer to DHS Policy Publication 4300B, DHS National Security Systems Handbook).

Department of Homeland Security
Management Directive System
MD Number: 11045
Issue Date: 10/04/2004
PROTECTION OF CLASSIFIED
NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION:
ACCOUNTABILITY, CONTROL, AND
STORAGE(direct .pdf link)

Personally owned equipment and software shall not be used to process, access, or store sensitive information without the written prior approval of the AO.

DHS Sensitive Systems Policy
Directive 4300A(direct .pdf link)

Again, she never asked for written prior approval:

Secretary Clinton used mobile devices to conduct official business using the personal email account on her private server extensively, as illustrated by the 55,000 pages of material making up the approximately 30,000 emails she provided to the Department in December 2014. Throughout Secretary Clinton’s tenure, the FAM stated that normal day-to-day operations should be conducted on an authorized AIS,147 yet OIG found no evidence that the Secretary requested or obtained guidance or approval to conduct official business via a personal email account on her private server.According to the current CIO and Assistant Secretary for Diplomatic Security, Secretary Clinton had an obligation to discuss using her personal email account to conduct official business with their offices, who in turn would have attempted to provide her with approved and secured means that met her business needs. However, according to these officials, DS and IRM did not—and would not—approve her exclusive reliance on a personal email account to conduct Department business, because of the restrictions in the FAM and the security risks in doing so.

During Secretary Clinton’s tenure, the FAM also instructed employees that they were expected to use approved, secure methods to transmit SBU information and that, if they needed to transmit SBU information outside the Department’s OpenNet network on a regular basis to non-Departmental addresses, they should request a solution from IRM.148 However, OIG found no evidence that Secretary Clinton ever contacted IRM to request such a solution, despite the fact that emails exchanged on her personal account regularly contained information marked as SBU.

Office of the Secretary: Evaluation of Email Records Management and Cybersecurity Requirements(direct .pdf link)

She violated the rules for personal convenience and to hide her activities. The FBI criminal investigations say a lot about her and her cadre. There will be more than one person looking at potential criminal penalties and jail time.