Schools reject Obama transgender decree: ‘Straight into the paper shredder’

originally posted by: Annee
Kristina Olson

There's very little data on children who have fully socially transitioned, says Kristina Olson, an associate professor of psychology at the University of Washington. Olson got interested in the subject when a friend's 10-year-old was transitioning from male to female. Olson knew attitudes about transgender people were changing, both in society and in science.

"Forty years ago everyone considered this to be a pathology," Olson says. It was considered a "gender identity disorder" until 2013, when it was changed to "gender dysphoria" in the fifth edition of the DSM, the diagnostic manual for mental health.

So Olson decided to do her own study looking at families who are supporting their child's decision to live as a gender different from their biological sex. The study, published in the March issue of Pediatrics, looked at the mental health of 73 transgender children between ages 3 and 12. What it found was strikingly different from other research. www.npr.org...

Again you post an article that says transgender kids and give an age of 3! The last one you posted said 2 or even 18 months!

Craziness

a reply to: In4ormant

I did read it.
Where does it say any "diagnosis" is made?

a reply to: Phage

I think at 18 it's their legal right to determine on their own.

originally posted by: In4ormant

While the Endocrine Society’s guidelines suggest 16, more and more children are starting hormones at 13 or 14 once their doctors, therapists and families have agreed that they are mentally and emotionally prepared. The shift is because of the concerns over the impact that delaying puberty for too long can have on development, physically, emotionally and socially.

I know.

Its a new field of study. Everyone's learning, including the specialists.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: In4ormant

I did read it.
Where does it say any "diagnosis" is made?

Well obviously they have been diagnosed otherwise they wouldn't be calling the 3 year old transgendered.

"So Olson decided to do her own study looking at families who are supporting their child's decision to live as a gender different from their biological sex. The study, published in the March issue of Pediatrics, looked at the mental health of 73 transgender children between ages 3 and 12. What it found was strikingly different from other research. www.npr.org..."

After reading so manny comments i am starting to think i am the only one who didagrees with all of you. I dont really think there is something negative about this. It is just that everyonr values their privacy that they prefer to be outcasts rather than accept something different.

originally posted by: In4ormant
a reply to: Phage

I think at 18 it's their legal right to determine on their own.

Yup. And before that it's up to the parents.
Do you think the parents would request hormone treatments if the child did not? Do you think that a child who is transgendered would not undergo hormone treatments at 18 if their parents' did not allow it at 16?

originally posted by: In4ormant

originally posted by: Annee
Kristina Olson

There's very little data on children who have fully socially transitioned, says Kristina Olson, an associate professor of psychology at the University of Washington. Olson got interested in the subject when a friend's 10-year-old was transitioning from male to female. Olson knew attitudes about transgender people were changing, both in society and in science.

"Forty years ago everyone considered this to be a pathology," Olson says. It was considered a "gender identity disorder" until 2013, when it was changed to "gender dysphoria" in the fifth edition of the DSM, the diagnostic manual for mental health.

So Olson decided to do her own study looking at families who are supporting their child's decision to live as a gender different from their biological sex. The study, published in the March issue of Pediatrics, looked at the mental health of 73 transgender children between ages 3 and 12. What it found was strikingly different from other research. www.npr.org...

Again you post an article that says transgender kids and give an age of 3! The last one you posted said 2 or even 18 months!

Craziness

Do you know what Awareness is?

My grandson was first recognized as Autistic at about 18 months. His playschool teacher specialized in Spectrum Disorder.

We thought she was crazy. He's high functioning Autistic, it wasn't obvious to an untrained eye.

Now that we look back to when he was 2 or 3 - - - we see it. That's what these parents are saying.

a reply to: Phage

Indeed my opinion I don't think something this life altering should be made by anyone other than the person involved and at an adult level of reasoning.

13 and 14 as referenced is crazy.

Even more crazy is identifying a 3 year old as a transgender as referenced also.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: In4ormant

originally posted by: Annee
Kristina Olson

There's very little data on children who have fully socially transitioned, says Kristina Olson, an associate professor of psychology at the University of Washington. Olson got interested in the subject when a friend's 10-year-old was transitioning from male to female. Olson knew attitudes about transgender people were changing, both in society and in science.

"Forty years ago everyone considered this to be a pathology," Olson says. It was considered a "gender identity disorder" until 2013, when it was changed to "gender dysphoria" in the fifth edition of the DSM, the diagnostic manual for mental health.

So Olson decided to do her own study looking at families who are supporting their child's decision to live as a gender different from their biological sex. The study, published in the March issue of Pediatrics, looked at the mental health of 73 transgender children between ages 3 and 12. What it found was strikingly different from other research. www.npr.org...

Again you post an article that says transgender kids and give an age of 3! The last one you posted said 2 or even 18 months!

Craziness

Do you know what Awareness is?

My grandson was first recognized as Autistic at about 18 months. His playschool teacher specialized in Spectrum Disorder.

We thought she was crazy. He's high functioning Autistic, it wasn't obvious to an untrained eye.

Now that we look back to when he was 2 or 3 - - - we see it. That's what these parents are saying.

Your Pediatrics article specifically calls 73 kids age 3 to 12 transgender. As in already determined. If you think anyone on earth can determine a 3 year old to be transgender then your a special kind of special.

a reply to: In4ormant

Most people i know act worse than kids >.> You can`t really judge someone my age or appearance.

a reply to: In4ormant

Even more crazy is identifying a 3 year old as a transgender as referenced also.

I don't know about crazy. But it was not done. As referenced.
Please show where anyone was "diagnosed" as transgendered at 3.

originally posted by: In4ormant

Your Pediatrics article specifically calls 73 kids age 3 to 12 transgender. As in already determined. If you think anyone on earth can determine a 3 year old to be transgender then your a special kind of special.

Depends on the child, but yes, some children that young are very definite on who they are and what they want.

Would you even think to be aware of Gender Dysphoria in a young child to recognize it?

Awareness is the key. I am fortunate that my grandson's teacher had awareness and the expertise to catch his Autism at that young age.

a reply to: Phage

How did they determine the 3 year old was transgendered in that study Phage? A diagnosis? That's what doctors do. How else would Pediatrics be able to label them/include them as transgender for the study?

You gotta be trolling son. Your not that dumb.

originally posted by: In4ormant
a reply to: Phage

Indeed my opinion I don't think something this life altering should be made by anyone other than the person involved and at an adult level of reasoning.

13 and 14 as referenced is crazy.

Even more crazy is identifying a 3 year old as a transgender as referenced also.

Norway Allows ‘One Click’ Sex Changes, Govt Will Decide On Kids’ Gender If Parents Disagree
www.breitbart.com...

a reply to: Annee

Well, I honestly can't believe that you think kids that young can be determined transgender. It makes my mind spin.

originally posted by: In4ormant
a reply to: Annee

Well, I honestly can't believe that you think kids that young can be determined transgender. It makes my mind spin.

Why not. It's who they were born to be.

People used to think kids were born a Blank Slate - - that they could mold them anyway they wanted.

The brain says otherwise.

a reply to: In4ormant

You gotta be trolling son. Your not that dumb.

Thank you. I'm not that dumb (again it's you're) But I do attempt to read the studies before jumping to conclusions about them.

To be included in this study, transgender children had to (1) identify as the gender “opposite” their natal sex in everyday life (ie, they identified as male or female, but not the gender that aligned with their sex at birth), (2) present in all contexts (eg, at school, in public) as that gender identity, (3) use the pronoun matching their gender rather than their natal sex, (4) be 3 to 12 years old, and (5) be prepubescent (ie, anyone eligible for hormone blockers was excluded from the present study).

pediatrics.aappublications.org...

A kid raised by animals acts like anomal. I think this really proves the blank point. You become what your parents are

a reply to: Annee

And when exactly between bouts of eating glue and speaking in gibberish did this realization happen and get determined by a "professional"?